1. Tar2. Fabelmans3. Triangle of Sadness4. Women Talking5. Banshees of Inisherin6. Everything Everywhere7. Elvis
Did not see: Top Gun, Avatar, All Quiet
― jaymc, Friday, 10 March 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link
Women Talking might actually be my least favorite after TOS.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2023 14:56 (one year ago) link
aftersun should’ve been nominated (and won)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link
i’m seeing tár this afternoon and i have no idea when i'm seeing triangle of sadness but my favorite of the remainder is avatar
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:21 (one year ago) link
Tar for me (haven't seen western front, avatar, or women talking)
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link
Wow, I look forward to your responses, Brad.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:24 (one year ago) link
Women Talking might actually be my least favorite after TOS
It's Banshees and All Quiet as my least favorites, by some distance.
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link
See? I keep wishing All Quiet out of existence. You're right.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link
i will never see all quiet, i bet it's ok, but war movies that aren't come and see or patlabor 2 are fucking weak
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:37 (one year ago) link
The world could use a few more "weak" war movies imo, but All Quiet is more of a "nothing" war movie
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:39 (one year ago) link
I can't say I'm perplexed by the hatred directed toward Women Talking, but I found myself readily available to give it the benefit of the doubt
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link
only seen three, prob gonna watch banshees and fabelmans this weekend so i’ll save my vote.
the three i’ve seen (ava, tar, eeaao). i liked/loved them all tbh
― avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link
I don't at all hate WT, it's just my least favorite Polley film.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link
loved women talking but i think a lot of its pleasures will be diminished when people are watching it on a streaming device; i was not annoyed at all with the color grading and was honestly kinda spellbound by it in the theater. the shot of the fists in the sky when they're learning to navigate by the stars... one of the more breathtaking images of the year imo
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link
also loved the misé-en-scene of it, how it mostly took place in a single location but would occasionally suddenly and violently break out of it, as if the context for the conversation they were having were leaking through traumatic fissures in the film
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link
It would've been Judith Ivey, not Claire Foy or Jessie Buckley, who would've been on my supporting actress ballot this year
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link
I've *only* seen Women Talking (meh). Well, and 50 mins of Everything Everywhere... which was enough for me to know that it was Not For Me. Will see The Fabelmans and maybe Tar once they hit my streaming services.
If Hollywood ends up surviving the IP age, the Avatar and Top Gun BP noms will be regarded as Airport/Towering Inferno-grade howlers.
― niall horanburger (cryptosicko), Friday, 10 March 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link
scathing critique of two movies you did not watch
― avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 March 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
I saw the originals. That was enough.
― niall horanburger (cryptosicko), Friday, 10 March 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
This Top Gun is better and funnier than Hollywood's Burning.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link
avatar 2 is basically an anti-fandom film. any attempt to dig into the lore or figure out the characters deeper than trope level makes the experience worse. it's a movie, not a "cinematic universe"
― avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link
i think this is good, to be clear
The Towering Inferno > Top Gun
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Saturday, 11 March 2023 00:01 (one year ago) link
Fabelmans > Women Talking > Tàr > EEAAO > Banshees > Top Gun > Avatar > Elvis > Triangle
― sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Saturday, 11 March 2023 01:22 (one year ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Sunday, 12 March 2023 00:01 (one year ago) link
LOL after all that not even one vote for MAVERICK?
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 12 March 2023 01:18 (one year ago) link
oops, I used the wrong accent on Tár, none more acute
― fleeting art that floats! (geoffreyess), Sunday, 12 March 2023 15:12 (one year ago) link
i think a lot of its pleasures will be diminished when people are watching it on a streaming device
We just watched it for the first time at home and we both found it riveting. It's kind of a quiet masterclass in framing and filming what is in essence mostly just a long discussion in a barn, because never did I find it particularly claustrophobic. Emotionally maybe, but not visually. Of the movies nominated, I liked it better than (for sure) Banshees and Everything Everywhere and Top Gun, maybe a bit more than Fabelmans (which has a lot of built-in stuff working in its favor). Haven't seen Tar yet, but that's likely the only one left that I will ever see.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link
been thinking about tár for two full days now
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link
watched again with new friends, there are so many moments, images, scenes etc to discuss
― Dan S, Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:55 (one year ago) link
it will not win anything at tonight's Academy Awards
― Dan S, Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:57 (one year ago) link
nor will The Fabelmans sadly
― Dan S, Sunday, 12 March 2023 22:59 (one year ago) link
Women Talking might win the Adapted Screenplay award. The Fabelmans and Tár will go home empty-handed
― Dan S, Sunday, 12 March 2023 23:18 (one year ago) link
Some people should die: https://ew.com/awards/oscars/2023-oscars-secret-ballot-academy-awards-voters-share-juicy-picks/?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social-share-article
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 00:23 (one year ago) link
brb going to walk into the oceanSteven Spielberg's direction was bad. It was sentimental. He was working something out, clearly. I don't know what it was. The story wasn't that interesting. Alright, you made movies? Who doesn't make movies when they're a kid? This particular slice you decided to show us wasn't that compelling.... it felt indulgent, and he couldn't be objective about it. I thought it was not well cast, people were just playing types. I thought Michelle Williams was trying to be "Jewish Mama." Paul Dano seemed really lost to me — I don't know if he was intimidated by Spielberg. I thought he was great in Batman, but to play a regular guy was painful.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 March 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link
should i talk about the show here? it’s already the least excruciating oscar’s i’ve seen in idk. super heartwarming. song performances are still really crucial bathroom break opportunities
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 13 March 2023 00:43 (one year ago) link
feel like i’m coming down with a case of oscar fever
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 13 March 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link
yeah, I'm loath to admit it
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:00 (one year ago) link
Brad and Alfred for next year’s hosts.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 March 2023 01:02 (one year ago) link
If I could host in Lydia Tar drag.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:03 (one year ago) link
“An Irish Goodbye” won, eh? Not entirely surprised.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 March 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link
then it left without telling anyone
― avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:18 (one year ago) link
chugging tepid Guinness
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:19 (one year ago) link
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, March 12, 2023 8:43 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
riding on a wave of two great speeches from the supporting acting winners
― call all destroyer, Monday, 13 March 2023 01:20 (one year ago) link
yes pretty much
the obligatory studio ads are sooo boring
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:23 (one year ago) link
i take back what i said about the song performances after eeaao and rrr
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:36 (one year ago) link
The Best International Feature Film goes to All Quiet on the Western Front, thus saving the audience the horror of that three-note score pounding us into hummus at an important point in the evening later.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:45 (one year ago) link
My opinion (and worth considerably less than what you paid for it): I'm more interested in the prospect of half-assed EEAAO copycats than half-assed Tár copycats.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Monday, 13 March 2023 01:56 (one year ago) link
well yeah it would be a lot easier to half ass eeaao successfully
― call all destroyer, Monday, 13 March 2023 02:02 (one year ago) link
Shd give more honorary oscars tbh it’s nice to see good old actors be happy
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link
They really left Paul Sorvino off the tribute reel? wtf
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link
Oh -- would also have been cool with a nod for Knives Out.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, March 13, 2023 3:22 PM
Honestly they should just license the ones TCM makes.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link
Also Anne heche someone said upthread, the Oscars are still always bad
― piedro àlamodevar (wins), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link
Closing the montage with a QR code to see more was an especially crass touch.
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link
xps to dlh yeah I get it. I think a problem - and again, not remotely claiming this is a new or unknown thing - with the “ok you’ve been solid here’s an Oscar for your role in this good film” thing is that you can see how the Academy’s tastes have shifted a bit and a lot of the stuff that they previously overlooked in the past may have been nominated this year. Not quite so much of a shift - I mean, Nope was my film of the year & it was nowhere, but a film like EEAAO winning makes me wonder if the 2023 Academy would have recognised The Matrix or Blade Runner in non-technical categories? Eric H btw is otm re Angela Bassett. The acting categories ended up exactly the same as the Screen Actors Guild awards, but Angela Bassett did win a Golden Globe, iirc the first for a Marvel role, and has been nominated for, what, two Oscars in her whole almost forty years of work? I mean, if you’re going to give a lifetime achievement undeserved Oscar …?Similarly, Tracer Hand made an excellent point upthread (or maybe in the EEAAO thread?) re Stephanie Hsu & her likelihood of winning in the future. What was that statistic? Second time in 95 years for a lead role? I’d be annoyed too, and perhaps worth thinking of the relative rarity of these prestige roles for Black and Asian actors. It would be nice if we could just enjoy Yeoh winning for a stellar performance in a deeply weird performance as just that, instead of her having to be the first.
― giant bat fucker (gyac), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link
Hsu was the best young woman I've seen in a film since Lady Bird and I wish retroactively that she'd have been in it.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
https://www.showbiz411.com/2023/03/13/oscars-are-back-2023-ratings-near-16-mil-increase-from-2022-biggest-numbers-of-all-awards-shows-this-season
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
Strange to think that's good news when this sucker used to get upwards of 40 million on the regular.
we did it we saved oscar
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 13 March 2023 19:56 (one year ago) link
I'm not sure why the article is calling it an increase. 2022 viewership was 16.6 million.
― jmm, Monday, 13 March 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link
ON or 7 or 28?
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Monday, 13 March 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link
not a single vote for Banshees??? what I would have voted had I seen this poll when it was up
history will vindicate me
― Murgatroid, Monday, 13 March 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link
JLC is cool, i don't have a problem w/her winning. she's been great in a lot of roles over the years, and probably should give an honorary mention to True Lies, which is a problematic flick and her role doesn't deviate from that and is a bit unbelievable, but she commits to it fully and you forget how ridiculous the character is in a lot of ways. i bet this was a close vote though, i kinda thought kerry condon might sneak thru but it was probably tough to get past two icons.
― omar little, Monday, 13 March 2023 21:53 (one year ago) link
She was the second best supporting actress in her own film but sure.
― giant bat fucker (gyac), Monday, 13 March 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link
There appear to be three categories for acting wins - 1) an astonishing performance, 2) being entirely of the moment, or 3) having a legacy or being overdue - as well as sometimes a combination of the three.
Stephanie Hsu is fantastic in EEAAO, but Curtis winning seems fine to me. She's memorable as always and it is a legacy award. I would have liked to see Farrell win best actor, not just as a legacy but for his performance, but am happy that Brendan Fraser won and not Austin Butler for yet another mimicry of a music star in a dumb biopic
― Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:09 (one year ago) link
In the International Film category I still haven't seen Close, which is a film about a mama's boy that I've been looking forward to for months, starring Eden Dembrine and Émilie Dequenne (best actress winner in the Palme D'Or-winning film from 1999, Rosetta).
All Quiet was the inevitable winner though
― Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link
Close earned several queasy reviews from writers I respect. Their consistency impressed me: a strong first half, a calamitous second half.
I'm going to rent it this week.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:44 (one year ago) link
I saw the reviews too, but am skeptical about those perspectives and am more forgiving of sentiment than most of you are here. I'm curious to read what you think about it.
― Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:52 (one year ago) link
how are you defining "sentiment"?
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 00:58 (one year ago) link
Saw someone point out that the In Memoriam omitted Charlbi Dean, who obviously wasn't a Hollywood legend but was the female lead in one of this year's Best Picture nominees (Triangle of Sadness).
― jaymc, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:01 (one year ago) link
xp As tenderness, wistfulness, nostalgia, and sadness that is even maybe self-indulgent - I love it all. I'm not predicting what the film will be about since I haven't seen it
― Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:03 (one year ago) link
just saw that about Charbli Dean, awful
― Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:05 (one year ago) link
― Dan S
hey, many of us loved Benediction and The Fabelmans. See our backs? Pat them.
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:08 (one year ago) link
you asked what I meant by sentiment, I gave an answer. I'm not going to pat your backs
― Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:13 (one year ago) link
not sure why I post here honestly
― Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:21 (one year ago) link
lol dude I'm teasing you
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:22 (one year ago) link
Never, ever assume longtime posters are out to get anyone, especially when the anyone posts in good faith.
ok, I understand
― Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:25 (one year ago) link
I really liked Paul Rogers' speech when he won for editing Everything Everywhere, it was perfect
― Dan S, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 01:39 (one year ago) link
Guess the figures I linked above weren’t correcthttps://variety.com/2023/tv/news/2023-oscar-ratings-academy-awards-audience-1235550070/amp/
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 02:23 (one year ago) link
"more hits and slaps" helped
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 02:25 (one year ago) link
― Dan S, Tuesday, March 14, 2023 1:13 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
itt i learned that alfred has multiple backs
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 02:30 (one year ago) link
His and Jake Gyllenhaal's iirc
― jaymc, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 02:33 (one year ago) link
Finally saw "Tar." I'd managed to remain totally spoiler free, not that there is really much to spoil beyond the excellent writing, direction and acting. A great, quietly original all-around creation.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 March 2023 04:00 (one year ago) link
― ꙮ (map)
a Negroni for each back
― the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 March 2023 09:27 (one year ago) link
WWIII is nigh:https://www.indiewire.com/2023/03/best-picture-oscars-should-only-go-american-films-says-cannes-head-1234823508/
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link
disagree with Thierry. all of the Academy rules seem arbitrary, but they kind of make sense.
I can see wanting to limit International Feature Film nominees to foreign language cinema
and agree that Best Picture and Best Director nominees should be open to all films from every language and culture
― Dan S, Sunday, 9 April 2023 01:53 (one year ago) link
Honestly, if there aren't at least 12 foreign language performances up for the acting awards, I call foul
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 9 April 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link
(In any given year, that is)
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 9 April 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link
How can a non-American film win the Oscar for best film since it’s a ceremony in honor of American cinema?
I think I see a flaw in this argument
― jmm, Sunday, 9 April 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link
https://variety.com/2023/film/awards/angela-bassett-mel-brooks-governors-awards-honorary-oscars-1235654578/
Angela Bassett, Mel Brooks and Carol Littleton will receive honorary Oscars at this year’s Governors Awards, announced by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. In addition, the Sundance Institute’s Michelle Satter will receive the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Awards. The four statuettes will be presented at the 14th annual ceremony on Saturday, Nov. 18, 2023, in Los Angeles.
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 26 June 2023 19:21 (nine months ago) link