Pier Paolo fucking Pasolini: Search (I don't want to hear your destroy choices cause they're of no fucking interest to me)

I've still only ever see the Trilogy of Life.

just came here to post that. damn.

Trilogy of Life.

i have that blu-ray set

saw The Gospel According to Matthew recently and it seems like his greatest film. Mamma Roma, Accattone, The Hawks and the Sparrows, and Teorema are also really good

I thought Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom was a tedious and lifeless film

haven't seem the Trilogy of Life, those films are generally not available to rent

The documentary about Italian sex life sucks, I must say. It's done after 10 minutes.

Maurizio Viano says the only value the film has is as a documentary of the embarrassment and shame of the participants, who spend most of the time evading Pasolini's questions.

NYRB are releasing Teorema on paperback (didn't know it was a novel). I don't particularly care for him as a novelist but I am interested to see how these things translate.

My second favourite of his movies after St Matthew, I'm also interested in reading it

As I recall, the novel is a series of monologues by each of the family members and their relation to the guest.

Here's a thought I posted in the Rolling Stones thread:

On the subject of Metamorphosis, it occurred to me that "Family" has a lot in common with the Pasolini film Teorema: the four characters of the father, daughter, mother and son are very close, even in details like the daughter's attraction to the father and the son's impotent attempts to express himself as an artist...
But! The song was finished in June of 1968 and the film didn't premiere at the Venice Film Festival until September, so that would seem to indicate the film had no influence on the song...
But! Also in June of '68, the Stones filmed One Plus One with Jean-Luc Godard, whose wife Anne Wiazemsky would have just finished acting in Teorema itself at about that same time. Is it outlandish to propose that Jagger might have seen a summary or discussed the plot of the Pasolini film with either Godard or Wiazemsky herself, who appears in One Plus One (though not on-screen with the Stones)?

― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, January 29, 2022 4:28 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIzA-QJRGV0

After watching The Gospel According to St. Matthew (eh), Mamma Roma (good, but rather too much spirited Anna Magnani laughter), and, tonight, Teorema, I realized we're not simpatico. Teorema is especially grueling. I admired its hesitations and its sketches of provincial life, but it's without a comma of humor -- this is Boudu territory yet it's so lethargic and po-faced.

I like those but I can understand why someone wouldn’t

Terence Stamp, whom I admire as an actor and figure, is so far from an erotic object that my hesitations also throw my sympathies out of whack

Hawks and Sparrows is probably his only comedy, and isn't very funny (though maybe someone finds Pigsty hilarious); although, as you mention, his characters seem to laugh a lot, maybe out of cruelty more often than joy.

The union's reaction to the boss's decision to give away his factory is meant to be funny, surely? But yeah I can't really with Pasolini either.

To me he is like a reader of texts turning to films. The New Testament, De Sade, old greek plays.

I loved Teorema and probably my favourite though I last saw it then years ago. Didn't feel like Stamp served as an erotic object, more like the thing that was missing in everyone he touched. It's a great idea.

Pigsty didn't work. Hawks and Sparrows I've yet to see

That's how I ultimately regarded Stamp.

a catalyst, more obvious with the son and his painting ambitions.

Terence Stamp, whom I admire as an actor and figure, is so far from an erotic object

Jake G has ruined all other men for you.

I've been aware of that for quite some time

I saw Teorema as a partial remake of My Man Godfrey

If William Powell had fucked Mischa Auer.

Viano suggests that, despite Teorema having some of the most literal gay content of any of Pasolini's films, it's actually the least concerned with homosexuality as a theme.

I re-watched Teorema. It's very funny and an excellent story idea, and well executed. Beautiful soundtrack. The music was ace.

Deeply cynical film. I kind want to watch recent 'Marxist'/class films like Triangle of Sadness now.

It's playing at the BFI soon, might go.