ANDOR aka Glum Village : its own thread

i’m PISSED that this was originally envisioned as five seasons, each covering a year’s worth of diegetic time,

Sometimes you just need cereal

“That’s my cereal!” #Andor’s Kyle Soller loves Syril’s cereal as much as the rest of us. #StarWarsCelebration pic.twitter.com/X4JQlQoBvp

— Star Wars (@starwars) April 8, 2023

They really should firewall Andor from the shitshow that is the Lucasfilm marketing-and-fanboy-service department

But cereal

But Syril

Finally started watching this (on ep4) and it's wild how much better this is than any SW thing after the original trilogy, aside from Rogue One.

Yeah kinda crazy and just such a well-structured, tense season. The best parts are yet to come!

Finished this last week, the prison eps are really burned into my brain. Still can't believe that this was legit good, not just good enough for some Disney SW content.

just got irrationally angry thinking about how those imp bastards kicked b2emo!

After recent rewatch imho those Clone Wars final four episodes might be on a par with Andor in a number of ways.

just got irrationally angry thinking about how those imp bastards kicked b2emo!

Nothing irrational about it. I nearly cried when they threatened to turn off his power

when he's too scared to come out in the last episode :(

Not gonna lie it's been kinda disappointing to watch Mandalorian in its wake, it's fine and all but it's never excellent.

I always felt Mandalorian was coasting on a couple vv good aspects. Crucial ones, of course: the two main characters. It just still has that Saturday morning cartoon feel to me (despite the Pershing episode almost feeling like an Andor knockoff.)

mandalorian really went downhill after they focused on the other mandalorians. this new season was almost unwatchable for me. too goofy

i gave up 10 minutes into the second episode of this mandalorian season. maybe it was always a kids show but it felt like that more than prior seasons. maybe it just suffered in comparison to andor.

Nothing irrational about it. I nearly cried when they threatened to turn off his power

― jbn, Thursday, April 27, 2023 2:40 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

not irrational while watching the show but irrational thinking about it months later!

The existence of the Mandalorian also necessitated a Boba Fett show in which the dude had to keep his helmet off most of the time and become sort of a perpetually bemused benevolent town mayor.

After recent rewatch imho those Clone Wars final four episodes might be on a par with Andor in a number of ways.

I also think those episodes were excellent, some of the best work SW has done, but you have to watch a LOT to get to that point, and much of it is not great. Think I mentioned somewhere that Clone Wars starts out bleh and gets steadily better and more consistent each season - increasing returns. One of those shows where I'd definitely recommend someone follow a guide and only watch the best/most important episodes

My kids have watched all of Clone Wars but now we’re watching them together. We are midway through season 2. It’s not bad but I’m glad to hear it gets better.

Mandalorian honestly lost me in s2 with every episode feeling like a pilot for another show. And then Boba Fett was infuriating that even existed at all, and then on top of that ruined the character. But my kids (and my inner kid) keep me watching. Agreed that Mando s3 was mostly a misfire. The Andor-like episode was a pale imitation and then it really didn’t lead anywhere either.

the intro of the other mandalorians way back was v cool suggesting some kind of interesting intra-cultural split and complexity, then they made it mostly awful and often nauseating.

Mando S3 had IG-12 which probably leaves it in net positive territory overall IMO.

I also think those episodes were excellent, some of the best work SW has done, but you have to watch a LOT to get to that point, and much of it is not great. Think I mentioned somewhere that Clone Wars starts out bleh and gets steadily better and more consistent each season - increasing returns. One of those shows where I'd definitely recommend someone follow a guide and only watch the best/most important episodes

― Vinnie, Thursday, April 27, 2023 7:44 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, after watching Andor, I was listening to the podcast A More Civilized Age, which primarily focuses on the Clone Wars, but took a 12-episode detour into Andor. They kept dropping Clone Wars character references and plot points in the Andor episodes so I decided to revisit it. I had watched a season or so when my son was a kid. I even found a list of the "essential" story arcs somewhere, trying to avoid getting bogged down. Still couldn't hang with it.

The sticking points for me were: 1.) the animation style, which has never sat right with me; 2.) the numerous gruff New Zealand accents all sounding very samey; and 3.) the presence of battle droids - "roger, roger" and all that insipid humor.

Mando S3 had IG-12 which probably leaves it in net positive territory overall IMO.

I believe you mean:
Yes. Yes. Yes.

Cool News: Tony Gilroy, creator/writer of @starwars #Andor, just announced that they are launching a website soon with all 12 scripts & tons of concept art - all free to read!

He worked really hard on his scripts & is proud of the way they turned out- they are production drafts. pic.twitter.com/LbXEOdumaZ

— Jeff Goldsmith (@yogoldsmith) May 1, 2023

LFG

whoa, had no idea. First heard of Gilroy a few days ago while watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpAE7wgP8oA

Andor is Also Resuming Production During the Writers Strike https://t.co/HmhaXkL3d9 pic.twitter.com/H4dLXPVz6V

— io9 (@io9) May 6, 2023

boooo

Yeah that seems tricky at best, even beyond the 'this is a bad look' factor.

It does, tho it sounds like Gilroy and other showrunners are in sort of a tight spot there.

We actually just finished the series last night — been watching it with one of my kids, so it took a while to have time when we could all watch together. We all liked it a lot and agreed it's definitely the best Star Wars of the modern era. We're going to rewatch Rogue One tonight.

Good read:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/andor-broke-star-wars-rules-reinvent-sci-fi-tv-1235507880/

Finally started a rewatch this very night.

Things I missed the first time: As Luthen and Cassian first talk in hyperspace having fled Ferri, for his wounds Luthen offers Cassian a sip of "Med Nog".

Maybe only abundant in the run up to Life Day, then the Empire takes it away.

One notable thing about Andor vs most other Star Wars related things, is the complete absence of "The Force". Andor is materialist Star Wars, I guess.

Debuted a year ago today.

"Remember this. Try."

<3

Too bad the next season will be written by AI

pockets

are fermenting

Luna now in his last week of shooting for S2 apparently

i'm watching this again. welcome to my blog.

after cassian kills the two security goons, he confers with his friend at work to concoct a lie about it. in the very next scene we see the security team contracted by the empire also concocting a lie about it. this is a world where truth is often v inconvenient

i was struck by how vader-like luthen looks right from the beginning.. he sweeps out of his ship in silhouette, his long cape flapping behind him..

maybe just me, but i liked how we watch the kids of ferrix putting on their warpaint, and then cut to syril - also someone who cares very much about his costume

this show is such a miracle, i need to rescreen too

gets to you, doesn’t it?

that’s what a reckoning sound like.

you want it to stop, but it just keeps coming

don’t you want to fight these bastards for real?

yes, yes i fuckin do

I rewatched it last year and think often about this exchange between Cassian and Maarva:

“I'll be worried about you all the time.”
“That's just love. Nothing you can do about that.”

nothing like being unexpectedly punched in the heart by a star war

still can't quite believe that maarva's funeral speech and stellan skarsgard's sacrifice monologue both happened in a star war, just incredible pieces of writing absolutely knocked out of the park by the actors

comments here making me want to watch it again. i’m almost seeing it as a negative image or anti star war at this point. sure, it exists because of the star war but its purpose is to destroy premise of same.

well it really stands out to me how the OG star wars are all about emperors and princesses and priests and this one is all about thieves and miners and cops and prisoners. yet at the same time it takes the premise of the OG seriously: what if there was an armed rebellion against a corrupt and sadistic galactic order? how would it work? at times is it even distinguishable from robbery, murder?

at the end of ep 3, as the story of andor's escape from ferrix wraps up, his face in luthen's ship as they blast off towards parts unknown - it's not an excited face. it's angry & skeptical. keeping its powder dry. the editing sets up a parallel with maarva taking him from kenari. first a new mother figure, now a new father figure. he loves maarva. does he love this guy? we'll see.

it makes star wars seem incredibly silly

i rewatched a couple of weeks back. i recommend it.