The Sebald Fiction Poll

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austerlitz is better and much more memorable imo

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link

thirding Austerlitz. I had the same trouble you did, n/a.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

Austerlitz is a better book imo

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link

you gotta kinda be losing your mind or going through a divorce to get in the rings of saturn zone, then it's pretty funny

Bongo Jongus, Wednesday, 1 March 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link

I was about to type this out again lol

Years ago a friend and I were at a bar talking about how it's probably impossible for Americans to write in certain styles, like, in an American version of Austerlitz where would the characters meet, in Albertsons?

― Bongo Jongus, Wednesday, November 17, 2021 7:48 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Bongo Jongus, Wednesday, 1 March 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link

lol at rings of saturn behing a divorced guy book

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link

It took me so long to read and finish Rings Of Saturn. It wasn't until towards the end that I realised why it was so slow going. I hadn't noticed how idiosyncratic and exhausting a lot of the sentences were for a start. And yeah, often the subject matter veers strongly into "Why should I care? Why is this important?" or simply "Where are you going with this?" And yet somehow I'm glad I did read it. I don't think I'll forget it in a hurry.

Austerlitz definitely the better book but Rings of Saturn is still extraordinary. Twinned with Last Year at Marienbad in my head.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 21:51 (one year ago) link

I like the whole cult that's grown up around Rings of Saturn 'walks' and, despite the intimate knowledge he had of the landscape, the number of odd elisions and outright geographical falsifications Sebald included in the book.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link

there’s a whole fucking biography of joseph conrad in the middle of this thing

na (NA), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 23:25 (one year ago) link

hell yeah there is

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 23:46 (one year ago) link

otm

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 2 March 2023 00:40 (one year ago) link

that's the grandest part

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 March 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link

the passages about the now-lost North Sea fisheries are peculiarly affecting

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 2 March 2023 09:49 (one year ago) link

i made myself finish rings of saturn. there were some chunks in the middle that i got into just as interesting as historical anecdotes. but i found the book as a whole very tedious and i'm still in the woods re: the point

na (NA), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:17 (one year ago) link

the segment i liked was joseph conrad/roger casement/the chinese dowager princess/the old english manor that is crumbling with the old family still living in it. but i still feel like i would have gotten just as much out of reading the wikipedia page on casement e.g.

na (NA), Monday, 13 March 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link

Also I had to order a Borges anthology and break to read some of that halfway through

I have read it convincingly argued that the concluding section of TROS is all holocaust-related, but I can't find the article

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 13 March 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link

Almost all of it seems to be atrocity-related at least


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