its a forceful straight forward line that pops out of the weeds of a more... complicated song
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link
It's unfortunate they waited this long to essentially admit defeat and redo the albums without the samples. In my opinion, it's wrong to redo these albums like this. It completely eliminates the historical significance and original charm / joy of these albums. Does anyone believe the new versions will become the ultimate versions to listen to?
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:09 (one year ago) link
seeing as almost everyone uses the streams yeah prob
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link
personally if it takes a close side by side listening to tell the difference i dont really see the big deal
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link
if theyre obviously different and worse thats bad tho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link
did they remaster them too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:15 (one year ago) link
is there a thread on attempts at re-recording/recreating recordings? wheatus' teenage dirtbag 2020
LOL what??? why did we need a new version of that
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link
With a track like TMN that is so ingrained in my memory, not hearing the Eddie sample is weird, but not a dealbreaker, but if the Syl Johnson sample was missing it'd somehow greatly affect my enjoyment of it.
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link
In my opinion, it's wrong to redo these albums like this.
But it's either this or the albums essentially don't exist, streaming. It took them this long to get to this point, and as mentioned above it seemingly takes a close side-by-side listen to notice the joins.
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link
And, you know, you could buy an OG vinyl or CD or cassette copy and rip that. They exist! In multitudes!!
I would love to listen to my CDs but that would involve going through all these boxes in hopes of finding them :/
I'm just going to listen to the new ones while I work the day they come out and hopefully I won't notice anything
― lag∞n, Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:15 AM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
if they are remixing or altering the mixes they would have to
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
sure but did they remaster them
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link
i personally dont use the streams too much but its the most popular way to listen to music so im happy that people who use them get to listen to this good shit
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link
I mean I'm doubting this is like the bullshit Ozzy re-releases or Megadeth - Killing is My Business reissue where Dave actually resang the entire "Boots are Made for Walking" cover with 50-year old voice....right?
then again I am sympathetic to samples sounding 'off'.
but yeah go to discogs if ya want the originals, p much
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link
haha, dave mustaine did what?
― pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link
should've gotten jamez to sing the mechanix.
― pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link
From everything I've read they spent literal years clearing samples, and there are a very few that they were unable to clear so they've either recorded the closest possible facsimile performances (which, given modern technology, is not actually that difficult) or omitted them. Anything where the whole song stands or falls on a sample they were unable to clear, they're obviously gonna have worked as hard as possible to re-create it.
(I'd love it if, instead of trying to re-create the sample on "Transmitting Live From Mars," they just chanted "Fuck the Turtles" for a minute and a half over a drum loop, but that's just me.)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, February 28, 2023 11:34 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
the prices might come down a bit on the originals hopefully
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link
that's what I'm thinking. guessing depends what format/condition you want right now.
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link
people look down their noses at vinyl me please but my subscription was worth it for the 3 feet high and rising pressing
― avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
"fuck being hard Posdnuos is complicated" is one of the greatest lyrics ever
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie)
lol remember when Morbs adapted this line for his screen name
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link
OTM. Sample re-plays are pretty interesting to do, but obviously it's easier to do with a track that hasn't come out yet compared to one where so many people are familiar with the texture of a sample, the pitch of the reverb, etc.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link
tbf those people should have kept their CDs
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link
otm
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 19:19 (one year ago) link
Those De La Soul CDs are among the most used and scratched in my collection
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link
i'm going to buy some regardless just cuz this is the first time de la isn't getting totally fucked out of the money
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link
^^
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link
BUT THE SAMPLES
speaking of, here's the adult film dialogue-sampling remix of "eye know." wonder if this one will be included?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHzzBvXReWY"eye know (the kiss mix)" (1989)
this song does not contain explicit lyrics, but the thought is erotic.
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, February 28, 2023 5:19 PM
slight derail but basically an attempt to move the streaming units to something that would pay for retirement funds, nice little rs story https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/teenage-dirtbag-wheatus-interview-brendan-brown-974332/
somewhat relevant to thread is the phone sample anecdote:
As beloved as “Teenage Dirtbag” is, it’s hard to imagine that any listener has spent too much time obsessing over the glitchy, three-note, synth-like sound that briefly shows up in the first chorus, right after the “she rings my bell” line. Still, last September, Brown attempted to crowdsource its origin, offering an engineering credit for anyone who could track it down. He was unsuccessful, and ended up having to attempt to reproduce the sound on his own.“It turned out to be so much more complicated than we could have imagined,” Brown says, before explaining the process at length.“We spent nine days transposing and moving harmonies around, moving the sound to different harmonies so that it sounded like the original, because we don’t know what the original sound was. It was just a phone thing sampled from somewhere,” he says. “It took us nine days until two o’clock in the morning. We were freaking out, like, ‘What the fuck? How do we do it?’ Anyway, we got there, but the process was like, ‘You gotta be fucking kidding me.’ We had to do all this research on DTMF, the Bell telephone system, to figure out what the notes corresponded to. … The sound happens again in the third verse, and they’re actually different harmonies. We got the first verse right, and the third verse wrong, so we had to start the transposing process all over again. That was another three days.”
“It turned out to be so much more complicated than we could have imagined,” Brown says, before explaining the process at length.
“We spent nine days transposing and moving harmonies around, moving the sound to different harmonies so that it sounded like the original, because we don’t know what the original sound was. It was just a phone thing sampled from somewhere,” he says. “It took us nine days until two o’clock in the morning. We were freaking out, like, ‘What the fuck? How do we do it?’ Anyway, we got there, but the process was like, ‘You gotta be fucking kidding me.’ We had to do all this research on DTMF, the Bell telephone system, to figure out what the notes corresponded to. … The sound happens again in the third verse, and they’re actually different harmonies. We got the first verse right, and the third verse wrong, so we had to start the transposing process all over again. That was another three days.”
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link
Good article in the Times with more details on how they got their catalog to streaming.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/01/arts/music/de-la-soul-catalog-streaming.html
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 1 March 2023 21:28 (one year ago) link
Wow, so that 'reimagined' "Cool Breeze On the Rocks" mentioned there (^) is just a few seconds of sped-up tape lol. Easily the most conspicuous difference so far...
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 2 March 2023 13:14 (one year ago) link
lol should just do the cut chemist E D I T sample for that one. oh well.
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Thursday, 2 March 2023 14:47 (one year ago) link
They're heeeeeere
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 March 2023 10:50 (one year ago) link
lovin it @ spotify
― moullet, Friday, 3 March 2023 10:50 (one year ago) link
My first track: "Area." It sounds good.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 March 2023 11:15 (one year ago) link
Have they announced Buhloone vinyl yet? Will Stakes get a vinyl reissue? SO MANY QUESTIONS
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, 3 March 2023 11:19 (one year ago) link
Looks like Buhloone and Stakes are available to preorder on their website with release dates in May and June...
Feels like an event day! Your Area has inspired me Alfred, might play Buhloone on the tube. Do we fancy a listening thread then for granular sample analysis etc? Running some pun titles in my mind.
― verhexen, Friday, 3 March 2023 12:21 (one year ago) link
Happy De La Day!
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 3 March 2023 13:55 (one year ago) link
Thank you! Fabulous news...
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, 3 March 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link
V mildly bummed that Buhloone is single vinyl, like my VMP pressing, and so likely missing a buncha tracks, but glad I won't be tempted to "upgrade".
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, 3 March 2023 14:09 (one year ago) link
HOLD ON I'M SORRY I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GOING BACK TO THAT
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Friday, 3 March 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link
runnin through the trenches on de la day!
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Friday, 3 March 2023 14:21 (one year ago) link
It might blow up but it won't go POP
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, 3 March 2023 14:26 (one year ago) link
no b-sides. no remixes. no extras.
AND YET.
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Friday, 3 March 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link
I HATE THEM AND I'MMA GIT EM IF IT'S THE LAST THING I DO
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Friday, 3 March 2023 14:35 (one year ago) link
anyway. hope you have a pleasant day.☺
"take a dive like greg louganis wit his. . ."
i would've been okay with common getting scrubbed from this.
― .here to stay like racism. (Austin), Friday, 3 March 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link
A Prince Among Thieves is a masterpi starting with 3 Feet I'm just planning on listening and chilling not scrutinizing, but so far this sounds like the De La I remember
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 March 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link
ooop part of an old post on there
pleased to know that they kept "the lick" in "patti dooke"
― avatár the way of watár (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 March 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link