rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

xp

it's cold and dark here, this has been a pretty measured conversation, thanks for your contribution tho

lol it's 12 degrees and there's still 3 inches of ice on my driveway

oh i didn't know that, everything they do has that Southern drawl on it

― frogbs, Friday, February 24, 2023 2:39 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

They sound like Claypool, who is also from the Bay Area

the sun just came out here ... before that it was raining and much colder, thank you jackmyfruit

the drawl doesn't sound Southern to me ... like, I wish I had studied linguistics more so that I can explain more clearly ... but there is a difference

Residents afaik were originally from Shreveport, Louisiana.

Which if true makes sense. Louisiana "southern" doesn't sound like other southern.

They sound like Claypool, who is also from the Bay Area

― young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, February 24, 2023 1:44 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah good point

yup - they began in Louisiana but have been in the Bay Area since the 60's so that makes them Bay Area

Just like Steve Miller & Boz Scaggs

people's accents don't magically change upon moving to the Bay Area ... so I think Dan wins.

er frogbs wins

there are people who have been here for over 20 years who still use the word "the" to refer to freeways ffs

a long time ago I was playing this song in my car without really thinking much about it other than that I liked it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmV3jrVXZ1o

and a friend got in and was like "I think this is racist"

and now after reading this convo and being reminded of that time, when I just looked up to see if they were attempting an actual cover (which they do with a bollywood track on the same album) or just making approximate noises I've found a thai version featuring a thai matishyahu type ska-reggae rapper w/ a handlebar moustache, and yeah it seems like they're just approximating sounds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzKyvHk4DU4

I'm snowed in rn btw

they were/are a San Francisco band ... one of the current members is from the South, but he was not in the band at the time of that album which was made several decades ago ..

Homer Flynn is from Louisiana, Hardy Fox was from East Texas. Those two were the main Residents. Jay Clem and John Kennedy were from Louisiana too and ca. "Eskimo", these four made up the Cryptic Corporation. Although they used various musicians over the years there's absolutely no doubt the core members of the Residents were from the South.

If you've heard any of them interviewed then I think any doubt that they are from the South would soon be dispelled!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5sXoo0N_0I

I assumed it was a big black type thing

― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 24 February 2023 17:33 (yesterday) link

Albini itself translates as small white or white diminutive doesn't it? So always wondered if the bandname was a pun on that.

Albini himself also is white diminutive so ... fitting name lol

Not so much "Is this racist" as "Look at this fuckin' racist," but Scott Adams has just had Dilbert dropped by a bunch of papers because of this

Scott Adams going full racist.

Wonder how many newspapers will be running Dilbert comics on Sunday? pic.twitter.com/E0ZZMbmRTv

— AskAubry 🦝 (@ask_aubry) February 25, 2023

good riddance

getting dropped by USA Today seems big, I hope it hurts him right in his bank account, the only thing that matters to him

Nothing but hate for this cunt

I noticed Dilbert went missing from the local paper today. Made me glad, even though the replacement strip was lousy. I stopped reading Dilbert some time last year as a conscious choice to stop exposing myself to Adams' rotted brain.

Argh I am pretty sure I have said this before but: I came from a newspapering family and I studied journalism and I worked at many newspapers (including being responsible for comic selection) and I married a very skilled journalist, etc. I spent four fifths of my life understanding the universe mainly through the funnies.

But even I have let most of my print subscriptions lapse or go digital. As a result, I do not know which comic strips are published and which are not.

Admittedly, Dilbert occasionally made me chuckle a few times during the previous century. But Adams now is one of the most garbagey of garbage humans. I don't even want to give him the satisfaction of canceling him so that he can whine about being canceled. Just, no. For me he no longer exists and I will no longer even bother to excoriate him because that would require acknowledging him and his racist sludge.

Like he isn't even smart enough to just dog whistle, he just said racist shit, and then offered the hilarious defense that he had offered a message of respect earlier

Emil.y OTM about Eskimo. It's pointedly critical of ethnography as a discipline- how ethnographers insist on establishing a living context only to construct a virtual one in its place; how they adopt analytical perspectives at odds with the people of another culture's outlook. It's very, very smart. It is conceptually complex and its presentation is quite detailed.

And yet for all that, it ultimately belongs to the same tradition of pop-orientalism as the Tiki Room at Disneyland. It's racist for sure. It takes an uncritical interest in that stuff and def 'codes white' along these lines.

OTOH Cochin Moon does something similar (and also makes a similar connection between the otherness of electronic sounds and an exotic landscape).

Holy shit @ Scott Adams

Just saw that the LA Times is dropping Dilbert.

The Los Angeles Times has decided to cease publication of “Dilbert.” Cartoonist Scott Adams made racist comments in a YouTube livestream Feb. 22, offensive remarks that The Times rejects. It will be discontinued effective Monday in most editions.

lol cancelled

He's going to write a new comic called Wokebert

He’ll end up at the Daily Wire or somewhere, and in an interview with Ben Shapiro or whoever he’ll explain with some exasperation that he was making a satirical response to a poll he found disturbing. The word “Swiftian” will be used.

Eat Scott Adams

As much dumb sh1t Adams has said over the past 20 years, it took a while for him to finally completely self-immolate his career. Coming next exclusive to Fox Nation most likely…

He'll be fine financially so he's just playing to the chud audience now. Every denunciation he gets from sane people means he raises his profile amongst troglodytes.

So long as he wears our scorn as a badge of honor, and a sign that he's "over the target," I want to give him as little notice as possible, and yet every word I type about him is more fuel and alkjfsd;qoih3gggg!#@%^

I was at the top of the hidden posts section thinking “phew, this wasn’t bumped for Scott Adams” and then I got to the most recent posts

There is also an Adams thread, also on fire lately. He's so horrible in so many ways but being racist is is most horrible horribleness so I guess it fits

** Re: Rema-Rema cover photo, this page says it's a "George Rodger photo of Korongo Nuba tribesmen."

** Re: Sun City Girls' "Soi Cowboy" - the original is from Nok Lae (นกแล) (Discogs link) from the late '80s. Sublime Frequencies included most of it on "Radio Thailand" on the first half of the track titled "Rubber of High Quality" (on Bandcamp here). And here's a YouTube video of a lip-sync performance of that song (which is actually pretty adorable). The YouTube video that Bongo Jongus posted above is the same band, ~30 years later! I asked Alan Bishop about "Soi Cowboy" before a SCG show in 2004, and I remember him saying that they indeed just did a phonetic approximation of the lyrics.

SCG pre formation band featured Moe Tucker. Paris 1942.
Do hope their politics diverge quite heavily.

soy cowboy wojak

Mark: The title Wheel In The Roses was Max's, the sleeve was Mick's. He owned The Last Of The Nuba [a photographic book by Leni Riefenstahl']. The image was intense, there was something in those eyes, an energy, that fitted.

And now Adams has been dropped by his distributor.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/27/media/dilbert-distributor-scott-adams/index.html

And by his agent and publisher for non-Dilbert stuff...

My publisher for non-Dilbert books has canceled my upcoming book and the entire backlist. Still no disagreement about my point of view. My book agent canceled me too.

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) February 27, 2023

he could just fuck off to a mansion on a private beach and invite a couple friends over and say dumb things to them for the rest of his life in peace

sorry, just realized i made the thread worse by talking about him

I love the "Still no disagreement about my point of view" as if "we are washing our hands of you because of the thing you said" doesn't count as disagreeing

Well, no one has expressed an interest in *voice coming from a yawning open grave* debating him, so clearly he's right.

Uh ...

GEMTECH innovation, Smith & Wesson manufacturing. pic.twitter.com/BuXFvvU1WP

— Smith & Wesson Inc. (@Smith_WessonInc) February 27, 2023

xp - What's amazing is that the supportive responses to his tweet are, almost without exception, from idiots that pay for twitter.

Adams' whole thing is so stupid because it all hinges on the "text vs. subtext" thing that even 3rd graders can understand. it was the same stupid argument that came about when "All Lives Matter" was a thing, or when white supremacists kept flashing the "OK" sign, they clearly do know how this works but I guess you have to be as dense as Scott Adams to think that nobody else in the world does. no wonder he fancies himself a "master persuader"

S&W+PB thing is pretty fucked btw, though tbh I have no idea if that's abnormal for gun manufacturers