*recommendations
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link
i genuinely forgot about HBMS.Psychoanalysis is something i have realised i will never find in my travels.but hey, never say never.
― mark e, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link
listened to Prince Among Thieves a bunch a while back, I felt even more strongly about it now. To be able to do a whole concept/rap opera thing and have the plot make sense, the superb "casting" (like Everlast as a dirty cop was inspired, and obviously all the others like BDK, Kool Keith, De La, etc) and then to center it on two relatively unknown rappers who are great in the lead roles, a real great piece of work. great beats too.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link
i love masturbatory backpacker shit― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, February 22, 2023 11:13 AM
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, February 22, 2023 11:13 AM
me too, but de la did it first + best.
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link
totally they opened up whole new possibilities
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link
I always had a soft spot for Beautifully Absurd from Politics of the Business
― symsymsym, Thursday, 23 February 2023 03:02 (one year ago) link
Confirmation about the replays:
Yes there were some replays that had to be done for clearance purposes. We challenge you to find them!! I spent over 4 months doing it with the man Prince Paul himself along with the members of the band. Set to be released on 3/3/23. It’s the Magic Number!!— Scotty Hard (@scottyhardmusic) January 4, 2023
okayplayer has a GREAT interview about how these albums were (mostly) cleared and it even touches on other things (like the Beastie Boys, Lou Reed getting 100% of "Can I Kick It?," etc.):
https://www.okayplayer.com/music/de-la-soul-samples-deborah-mannis-gardner-interview.html
― birdistheword, Thursday, 23 February 2023 04:46 (one year ago) link
As mostly a lurker I feel nervous suggesting a thing but... would it be fun / is there appetite for having a listening thread or a poll or something once the albums are on streaming? A nice way to mark the moment and pay sustained attention to everything that's coming back out. I would like to sit with it properly and it'd be fun to do with company.
― verhexen, Thursday, 23 February 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link
great idea!
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 23 February 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link
I would vote!
― symsymsym, Thursday, 23 February 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link
i'm in.
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link
Yep
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:07 (one year ago) link
in for poll
― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Thursday, 23 February 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link
listening thread would be fun
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 February 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link
I’d be game.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link
I would follow this thread esp if the tru headz here can break down the sample spotting
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link
i will reup og mp3s if anybody wants to a/b.
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link
listening thread is a fantastic idea
― la vie wokisme (voodoo chili), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link
agreed
― Indexed, Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link
So here's a question about replays: if they couldn't clear, say, a James Brown sample, studio musicians can re-create/re-record that. But why can't someone go into the studio and, doing an Eddie Murphy impression, say, "Anybody in the audience ever get hit by car?"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link
I think that would be extremely noticeable. Plus, isn't his voice slightly sped up/higher in the sample?
― Chris L, Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link
I think doing a replay indicates they cleared the rights to the composition but not the performance....
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link
It was that sped up, I never knew it was Eddie Murphy
― Mark G, Thursday, 23 February 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link
nice to see that scotty hard has been involved.
― mark e, Thursday, 23 February 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link
also, look at the swerve re questions re samples :
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/feb/23/de-la-soul-interview-belated-streaming-debut
― mark e, Thursday, 23 February 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link
Yeah I love Scotty Hard. Also interesting that given the sample replays, this must have involved going back to the multitracks, and presumably remixing and remastering the records.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 23 February 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link
not going to lie, there was a time i would buy anything with scotty hard involvement.his solo album, 'the return of kill dog-e' on wordsound was one of those cds that when i found it made me grin from ear to ear.
― mark e, Thursday, 23 February 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link
I worked with him on a project recently; he mixed this album, which my label released. Nice guy, and very pleased when I told him that I still listen to the second New Kingdom album about once a month.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 February 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link
the fact there is a connection from this place to the genius behind so many albums i have in the archive .. once again ilm delivers.
― mark e, Thursday, 23 February 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link
the rhyme scheme in magic number is so strange, is there a story/logic behind it?
streaming version sounds very loud to my ears
― corrs unplugged, Sunday, 26 February 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link
Tbh I started checking for him after hearing Medeski, Martin, and Wood's 'Combustication' in high school, which I still think is an incredible sounding album, some of the best drum sounds ever.
― change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 26 February 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
Today, De La Soul announced The DA.I.S.Y. Experience at Webster Hall in New York City on March 2. This immersive activation honors the life and legacy of the late David “Trugoy The Dove” Jolicoeur, and the influence and impact of pioneering New York hip-hop trio De La Soul, which he co-founded with fellow members Kelvin “Posdnuos” Mercer and Vincent Lamont “Maseo” Mason Jr.“The DA.I.S.Y. Experience”—named for the group’s song “D.A.I.S.Y. Age” off 3 Feet High and Rising, and standing for “Da Inner Sound Y’all”—will morph Webster Hall into the ultimate celebration of De La Soul on the eve of the group’s music arriving on streaming services March 3. Produced in conjunction with Amazon Music, the event will unite family, friends, and fans for a celebration of Dave and De La Soul. The venue will be transformed with artwork from the group’s classic album, 3 Feet High and Rising. The Originals (Stretch Armstrong, Clark Kent, Rich Medina, and Tony Touch) will curate a DJ set dedicated to the De La Soul’s legacy. Fans can watch the set on Maseo’s Twitch Channel starting at 8 p.m. ET. Meanwhile, Posdnuos and Maseo, along with other VIPs, will be on hand at the event to celebrate their brother Dave. Fans can RSVP to the free event here: thedaisyexperience.com.The Amazon Music channel on Twitch will livestream a series of interviews with friends of De La Soul and special guests, hosted by Rob Markman and Free Marie, starting at 10:30 p.m. EST.
“The DA.I.S.Y. Experience”—named for the group’s song “D.A.I.S.Y. Age” off 3 Feet High and Rising, and standing for “Da Inner Sound Y’all”—will morph Webster Hall into the ultimate celebration of De La Soul on the eve of the group’s music arriving on streaming services March 3. Produced in conjunction with Amazon Music, the event will unite family, friends, and fans for a celebration of Dave and De La Soul. The venue will be transformed with artwork from the group’s classic album, 3 Feet High and Rising.
The Originals (Stretch Armstrong, Clark Kent, Rich Medina, and Tony Touch) will curate a DJ set dedicated to the De La Soul’s legacy. Fans can watch the set on Maseo’s Twitch Channel starting at 8 p.m. ET. Meanwhile, Posdnuos and Maseo, along with other VIPs, will be on hand at the event to celebrate their brother Dave. Fans can RSVP to the free event here: thedaisyexperience.com.
The Amazon Music channel on Twitch will livestream a series of interviews with friends of De La Soul and special guests, hosted by Rob Markman and Free Marie, starting at 10:30 p.m. EST.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 27 February 2023 23:09 (one year ago) link
Are these reissues going to have replayed elements instead of original samples? Major bummer if the samples aren’t 100% present and correct.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 27 February 2023 23:41 (one year ago) link
Will the physical reissues of your albums be exactly the same as the originals, or did you need to redo some of the samples? johnnymoseleyPosdnuos: A lot of work went into getting hold of the masters and remastering, but everything will sound as tight and beautiful as you remember.Maseo: It was frustrating that our first six albums weren’t on Spotify [owing to record company disputes]. It felt like we were being erased from history. Newer fans would ask: “Where’s your older stuff?” Now, they’ll be able to get it.Well this makes it sound like these reissues will be shit shows featuring garbage relays of the original samples. I’ll wait and see but I’m the answer to this direct question is troubling.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 27 February 2023 23:45 (one year ago) link
i mean i thought we all agreed that the "official" version of "magic number" (that's been there for several weeks now) definitely has some missing / different elements?
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Monday, 27 February 2023 23:50 (one year ago) link
(and i like it just fine?)
(I'm happy you like it just fine.) (I don't.)
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 00:15 (one year ago) link
I read that Prince Paul was working on the sample re-dos on the reissues as well
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 01:10 (one year ago) link
see to me, that's a great sign.
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 01:44 (one year ago) link
Prince Paul needs a luden.
― enochroot, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 01:49 (one year ago) link
In light of that Deborah Mannis-Gardner interview I posted upthread, it's probably a good idea to buy a physical copy of any other hip-hop album you'd want prior to the mid-'90s. It just sounds like there's a ton of albums out there that are extremely vulnerable to litigious rights holders, including some that I would count among my very favorites.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 02:18 (one year ago) link
is there a thread on attempts at re-recording/recreating recordings? wheatus' teenage dirtbag 2020, taylor swift's old albums, or the kind of blue note for note cover album from 2014
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 09:05 (one year ago) link
It's taken them this long to reissue them as they'll be coming out, and they had to jump countless hurdles and jump through endless hoops to get there. If you want a copy of the original, they are plenty of them out there. These reissues are as good as they can manage them at this moment in time.
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 09:05 (one year ago) link
Yeah, "Magic Number" was on the radio, and I tried listening out for the replayed and/or changed things. Then "has anybody in the audience" popped up and I realised that radio stations still have the originals in their database, and I doubt they'll be updating them anytime soon.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 10:09 (one year ago) link
Camper Van Beethoven rerecorded a bunch of songs for a greatest hits collection.
I think the Violent Femmes did this for Blister In The Sun on some soundtrack album.
Prince threatened to do it but as far as I know never got around to it.
― Cow_Art, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 12:55 (one year ago) link
I think this will be much different than Def Leppard re-recording "Rock of Ages" or whatever. Thinking it'll sound more like the Chic "sample" in "Rappers Delight".
― pplains, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 14:46 (one year ago) link
They aren't touching the original vocals I assume, so it's a bit like a remix that's trying to sound as close to the original as possible
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 14:54 (one year ago) link
I was curious about this (and avoiding some work this morning) so did a quick a/b of what's on Spotify to the original CD.
The only other change besides Eddie Murphy I heard in The Magic Number was the "do the shang-a-lang" sample is at a lower pitch than the original. Maybe they used a harmonizer or something on the original and didn't on this, but it sounded like the same source (not a replay) just pitched differently. I can't hear anything else on that or Eye Know, but curious about the rest of the albums.
― city worker, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link
What does a “sample redo” mean in this context? Might they be replacing the samples with different but similar samples where the rights can be secured? Or recording “covers” of the sampled performances. Or resampling the original snippets but this time with the rights pre-cleared? Pierre Menard, author of 3 Feet High and Rising.
― bendy, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link