NBA State of Play – Rule Changes – Trends – CBA – Schedule Reform – Load Mgmt – etc

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ban jeff

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link

ok also

4. dial the officiating back a bit let em play a lil rougher

― lag∞n, Wednesday, February 22, 2023 11:35 AM (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think they should just ref it how they do in the playoffs, it really shouldnt be two different sports between the two and yet.

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link

that all star game did really feel like a new low in real time

i still think the saturday events are pretty fun, they need to get creative w sunday and figure something else out. it would honestly be more fun watching those guys play horse or do trick shots then what that game was

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, February 22, 2023 1:48 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I am pretty certain they’d take 3 on 3 a lot more seriously

k3vin k., Thursday, 23 February 2023 00:43 (one year ago) link

If it was post-season like the probowl instead of a couple months before the playoffs then injury worries wouldn't be as big a factor. Of course, a lot of the best players would be pretty gassed by then. Another argument for shortening the season.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Thursday, 23 February 2023 01:49 (one year ago) link

i was reading something where they pointed out that picking the teams right before the game is completely insane if you want a competitive game, no one has time to even think about who they're playing with. i would get rid of that, get rid of the elam ending, simplify the voting and try to start over.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 February 2023 02:00 (one year ago) link

shorten the game too

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Thursday, 23 February 2023 02:02 (one year ago) link

have they tried begging the players to care

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 February 2023 02:04 (one year ago) link

i mean it's completely doomed as a concept but they've also just been stepping on a lot of their own rakes recently

call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 February 2023 02:05 (one year ago) link

Just play the game in 2K

Jeff, Thursday, 23 February 2023 02:05 (one year ago) link

i think just like two years ago was a fun game?

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Thursday, 23 February 2023 02:09 (one year ago) link

They should add an all-2k twitch game. Ayton would be the perennial captain in the west. Who would it be in the east? Simmo the Savage?

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Thursday, 23 February 2023 02:44 (one year ago) link

They could also try playing by North Korean rules

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Thursday, 23 February 2023 02:50 (one year ago) link

haha ok

Among the most critical issues, the NBA and NBPA are negotiating new luxury-tax tiers and rates to increase the lower tier and make it more viable for teams to spend money into the tax. As salaries continue to increase across the league, increasing the lower tax bracket tier allows the tax tiers to match up with the money being spent.

Sources: The NBA and NBPA are progressing in talks on reaching a new Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Full story at @TheAthletic on key issues such as luxury tax brackets, one-and-done rule, player extension limits and more: https://t.co/OPe3lC3hIC

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) February 27, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 27 February 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link

this one is funny who wants it exactly

Lowering the age eligibility for the NBA Draft to 18 years old, which would effectively end the one-and-done system in college basketball. The NBA and NBPA have momentum on an agreement to terms that would lower the age to 18 for the draft, but sources say the union is pushing for conditions that would facilitate veteran players providing tutelage and orientation to the high schoolers entering the league. The players union wants to maintain the presence of veteran players and not allow newcomers to replace them, especially in the cases of teams with high school prospects who enter the NBA.

lag∞n, Monday, 27 February 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

anytime you have an opportunity to use the world tutelage you gotta do it

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 27 February 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

the tax tiers thing is actually a pretty big flaw right now, the tiers need to be adjusted on the fly as salaries increase.

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:02 (one year ago) link

they calculate it anew every year no

lag∞n, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:05 (one year ago) link

i think they’re referring to the actual amount of money between the tiers which iirc is only $5 million even though average player salary is now i think north of 10. they want to make it so signing one guy doesn’t blow right through the first tier.

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:25 (one year ago) link

ah ok

lag∞n, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link

it is funny tho that they did this to stop themselves from spending so much money but they just cannot stop, if i were a tax reciving team id be like no the tiers are fine

lag∞n, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:35 (one year ago) link

these two seem very reasonable

Increasing the contract extension limits, which would add flexibility and have significant effects incredibly quickly. Under the current CBA, teams and players can only increase the player’s salary by 120 percent in the first new year of the extension unless that player qualifies as a designated player/rookie or makes well below the league’s average salary. Shifting that 120 percent to potentially 140-150 percent as the sides have discussed, according to sources, opens the door a lot more for players who signed contracts that eventually become below-market deals to get enough of a raise to commit ahead of time, a group that potentially includes O.G. Anunoby, Domantas Sabonis and Lauri Markkanen over the next few seasons.

Smoothing out the process by which the salary cap rises instead of allowing the cap to spike, which occurred in 2016 and led to several overpriced contracts.

lag∞n, Monday, 27 February 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link

imposing a salary cap but then arranging a complicated tiered system of payments that allow you to spend over the cap you are imposing on yourself is a really funny circular game. like i get why it exists in this league but on its face it's still plainly stupid

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 February 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

to their credit its a fun game, basketball is easily the best general manager sport

lag∞n, Monday, 27 February 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link

i would love to see them do some things to ease player movement in this CBA but it feels like the teams are still pushing it in the other direction. there is a healthy balance between the FA and trade markets that is heavily imbalanced now bcuz every star player is incentivized to take the massive extension that they can only get from one team the first day it's made available

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 February 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link

the decision was nearly 15 years ago and teams are still so shook by it. free agency is a more fun and overall a more healthy system than "you can only afford to acquire a star player if you are willing and able to mortgage a half decade of your franchise"

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 February 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link

or put another way i don't see how the bradley beal situation is beneficial to the league overall, or really to the wizards either. everyone is a loser in that situation except brad beal but even he kinda loses too

J0rdan S., Monday, 27 February 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link

the biggest max deals coming at the point when players decline is a flaw in the system

lag∞n, Monday, 27 February 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link

players should be eligible for super max as soon as their rookie deal is done imho

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Monday, 27 February 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link

they are if they make an all nba team its just not as big of a super max as later cause the whole system is built on yearly raises

lag∞n, Monday, 27 February 2023 19:03 (one year ago) link

it shd be the superest of maxes, like imagine tatum on the dame deal

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Monday, 27 February 2023 21:46 (one year ago) link

nba needs to set up their own academies to protect kids from aau basketball its bad

The whole picture starts with players sometimes playing between 10 and 20 games per week between school, AAU and competitive runs.

By the time guys get to the NBA, a lot of damage has already been done. NBA teams are mostly trying to hold of what feels inevitable for too many. https://t.co/S0gipY7dIZ

— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) March 9, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 March 2023 14:35 (one year ago) link

i keep wondering whether the ball bros having a bunch of injuries is related to stuff like that

circles, Thursday, 9 March 2023 14:41 (one year ago) link

Specialization is a killer. (Hollinger snippet below from our load management story: https://t.co/9YhWYHKBEx)

It ain’t just the NBA. In baseball, you hope pitchers have already had their Tommy John’s before you get them. pic.twitter.com/NdtadVNe0p

— Eric Nehm (@eric_nehm) March 9, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 March 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link

also, humans keep getting bigger, stronger, faster - ligaments and cartilage generally don't get stronger/tougher.

awaiting the ILX acquihire (PBKR), Thursday, 9 March 2023 15:17 (one year ago) link

NBA, NBPA moving closer to agreement to establish rule that a player must play in a minimum number of games to be eligible for major awards as part of potential new Collective Bargaining Agreement, sources say.

Full details in The Bounce at @TheAthletic: https://t.co/0BKUBNAkQr

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) March 13, 2023

that it’s going to be based on games rather than minutes is just the icing on the cake

k3vin k., Monday, 13 March 2023 14:58 (one year ago) link

The Mavs say Kyrie Irving (right foot soreness) joins Luka Dončić (left thigh strain) as OUT tonight against Memphis.

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) March 13, 2023



tonight on ESPN… tim hardaway jr! desmond bane! dillon brooks! josh green!

J0rdan S., Monday, 13 March 2023 22:46 (one year ago) link

kyrie shutting it down early to save himself for the summer contract for whichever team is sucker enough to sign him

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Monday, 13 March 2023 22:51 (one year ago) link

I was curious whether 1 of 7 games featuring both teams' top two players was a big outlier. So, I asked @DanFeldmanNBA to compile the data, and High Quality Matchup Rate was born:https://t.co/BvF4Plouidhttps://t.co/iikfe4g3hO

— Nate Duncan (@NateDuncanNBA) January 26, 2023

k3vin k., Tuesday, 14 March 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link

High Quality Matchup Rate was just 25% over the weekend. pic.twitter.com/MrK8SQh8bA

— Nate Duncan (@NateDuncanNBA) March 20, 2023



we’ve come down from our post-ASB high of guys playing in games

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 March 2023 14:36 (one year ago) link

new CBA has been agreed upon but still needs to be ratified. sounds like the midseason tournament is happening, among other things

k3vin k., Saturday, 1 April 2023 14:25 (one year ago) link

this thing where they’re killing the midlevel completely for high-spending teams sucks

call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link

yeah one would think the players wouldnt like that

lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link

it might be good imo

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 1 April 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link

Wonder how many of these we'll see under the new rule of 65-game qualification for MVP, DPOY, 6MOTY, MIP, etc. https://t.co/PLTRWSjK9d

— Tom Haberstroh (@tomhaberstroh) April 1, 2023

this will be great

k3vin k., Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link

one has to imagine they’ll have try and close such loopholes to a degree i.e. a “game played” for awards purposes only counts if you play at least 15 minutes or something

J0rdan S., Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link

saw somewhere that weee is getting removed from drug testing for good, i guess that’s the players big win in this

call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 April 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

they should be able to vape on the bench

lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link

When was the last time a player got suspended for weed? Feel like it’s already been removed from testing off the record or something

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 1 April 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link

i’m still shook by stephen jackson revealing he used to smoke weed before games. few things would make me panic harder than smoking weed and then sitting on an NBA bench with all that noise & stimulation around me waiting to be called into the game. but i guess that’s why i’m not stephen jackson

J0rdan S., Saturday, 1 April 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link

yeah thats wild lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 1 April 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link


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