i def remember not being into stakes is high as much at the time, feeling like it kind of a boring standard rap album. i would be curious to hear it again now, for the first time in 20+ years
― na (NA), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link
in hindsight it makes 98% of the "backpacker shit" it inspired look like motionlessly masturbatory nonsense. de la had a radio jam in "4 more" on their album though. so they win.
going back to everything recently it just strikes me how pleasantly out of step they always were. the classic line is "arsenio dissed us but the crowd kept clappin" and that so perfectly sums it up.
hey alfred, if you like "pony ride" here's more de la + truth enola—
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-xz8aOirCk
truth enola feat plugs 1+2 — "voicetress" (1999)
(pos steals the show here with one of my absolute favorite verses; "around a lotta clowns, so we clownin")
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
vibe
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:57 (one year ago) link
vibration
was gonna flag you if you didn't issue that declaration
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 21, 2023 4:03 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
tough but fair
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 00:36 (one year ago) link
Mase & Pos posted long rememberances for Dave on instagram today crying for real
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link
i love masturbatory backpacker shit
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link
also no prince paul, he went way further into left field after the split
gravediggaz ?and then random stuff here and there that antidote compiled for 2 cds : politics of the business, hip hop gold dust.but since then, i have not really followed his groove.
― mark e, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link
A Prince Among Thieves is a masterpiece
Handsome Boy Modelling School, Psychoanalysis are great
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link
i love gravediggaz but i was thinking more of psychoanalysis, prince among thieves and handsome boy modeling school
ha xp
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link
I was about to post the same exact re4commendations re: Prince Paul. A Prince Among Thieves and So... How's Your Girl? (Handsome Boy Modeling School) are two of my favorites from that era. Highly recommended
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link
*recommendations
i genuinely forgot about HBMS.Psychoanalysis is something i have realised i will never find in my travels.but hey, never say never.
― mark e, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link
listened to Prince Among Thieves a bunch a while back, I felt even more strongly about it now. To be able to do a whole concept/rap opera thing and have the plot make sense, the superb "casting" (like Everlast as a dirty cop was inspired, and obviously all the others like BDK, Kool Keith, De La, etc) and then to center it on two relatively unknown rappers who are great in the lead roles, a real great piece of work. great beats too.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link
i love masturbatory backpacker shit― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, February 22, 2023 11:13 AM
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, February 22, 2023 11:13 AM
me too, but de la did it first + best.
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link
totally they opened up whole new possibilities
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 February 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link
I always had a soft spot for Beautifully Absurd from Politics of the Business
― symsymsym, Thursday, 23 February 2023 03:02 (one year ago) link
Confirmation about the replays:
Yes there were some replays that had to be done for clearance purposes. We challenge you to find them!! I spent over 4 months doing it with the man Prince Paul himself along with the members of the band. Set to be released on 3/3/23. It’s the Magic Number!!— Scotty Hard (@scottyhardmusic) January 4, 2023
okayplayer has a GREAT interview about how these albums were (mostly) cleared and it even touches on other things (like the Beastie Boys, Lou Reed getting 100% of "Can I Kick It?," etc.):
https://www.okayplayer.com/music/de-la-soul-samples-deborah-mannis-gardner-interview.html
― birdistheword, Thursday, 23 February 2023 04:46 (one year ago) link
As mostly a lurker I feel nervous suggesting a thing but... would it be fun / is there appetite for having a listening thread or a poll or something once the albums are on streaming? A nice way to mark the moment and pay sustained attention to everything that's coming back out. I would like to sit with it properly and it'd be fun to do with company.
― verhexen, Thursday, 23 February 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link
great idea!
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 23 February 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link
I would vote!
― symsymsym, Thursday, 23 February 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link
i'm in.
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link
Yep
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:07 (one year ago) link
in for poll
― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Thursday, 23 February 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link
listening thread would be fun
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 February 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link
I’d be game.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link
I would follow this thread esp if the tru headz here can break down the sample spotting
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:06 (one year ago) link
i will reup og mp3s if anybody wants to a/b.
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link
listening thread is a fantastic idea
― la vie wokisme (voodoo chili), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link
agreed
― Indexed, Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link
So here's a question about replays: if they couldn't clear, say, a James Brown sample, studio musicians can re-create/re-record that. But why can't someone go into the studio and, doing an Eddie Murphy impression, say, "Anybody in the audience ever get hit by car?"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:37 (one year ago) link
I think that would be extremely noticeable. Plus, isn't his voice slightly sped up/higher in the sample?
― Chris L, Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link
I think doing a replay indicates they cleared the rights to the composition but not the performance....
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link
It was that sped up, I never knew it was Eddie Murphy
― Mark G, Thursday, 23 February 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link
nice to see that scotty hard has been involved.
― mark e, Thursday, 23 February 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link
also, look at the swerve re questions re samples :
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/feb/23/de-la-soul-interview-belated-streaming-debut
― mark e, Thursday, 23 February 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link
Yeah I love Scotty Hard. Also interesting that given the sample replays, this must have involved going back to the multitracks, and presumably remixing and remastering the records.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 23 February 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link
not going to lie, there was a time i would buy anything with scotty hard involvement.his solo album, 'the return of kill dog-e' on wordsound was one of those cds that when i found it made me grin from ear to ear.
― mark e, Thursday, 23 February 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link
I worked with him on a project recently; he mixed this album, which my label released. Nice guy, and very pleased when I told him that I still listen to the second New Kingdom album about once a month.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 February 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link
the fact there is a connection from this place to the genius behind so many albums i have in the archive .. once again ilm delivers.
― mark e, Thursday, 23 February 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link
the rhyme scheme in magic number is so strange, is there a story/logic behind it?
streaming version sounds very loud to my ears
― corrs unplugged, Sunday, 26 February 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link
Tbh I started checking for him after hearing Medeski, Martin, and Wood's 'Combustication' in high school, which I still think is an incredible sounding album, some of the best drum sounds ever.
― change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 26 February 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
Today, De La Soul announced The DA.I.S.Y. Experience at Webster Hall in New York City on March 2. This immersive activation honors the life and legacy of the late David “Trugoy The Dove” Jolicoeur, and the influence and impact of pioneering New York hip-hop trio De La Soul, which he co-founded with fellow members Kelvin “Posdnuos” Mercer and Vincent Lamont “Maseo” Mason Jr.“The DA.I.S.Y. Experience”—named for the group’s song “D.A.I.S.Y. Age” off 3 Feet High and Rising, and standing for “Da Inner Sound Y’all”—will morph Webster Hall into the ultimate celebration of De La Soul on the eve of the group’s music arriving on streaming services March 3. Produced in conjunction with Amazon Music, the event will unite family, friends, and fans for a celebration of Dave and De La Soul. The venue will be transformed with artwork from the group’s classic album, 3 Feet High and Rising. The Originals (Stretch Armstrong, Clark Kent, Rich Medina, and Tony Touch) will curate a DJ set dedicated to the De La Soul’s legacy. Fans can watch the set on Maseo’s Twitch Channel starting at 8 p.m. ET. Meanwhile, Posdnuos and Maseo, along with other VIPs, will be on hand at the event to celebrate their brother Dave. Fans can RSVP to the free event here: thedaisyexperience.com.The Amazon Music channel on Twitch will livestream a series of interviews with friends of De La Soul and special guests, hosted by Rob Markman and Free Marie, starting at 10:30 p.m. EST.
“The DA.I.S.Y. Experience”—named for the group’s song “D.A.I.S.Y. Age” off 3 Feet High and Rising, and standing for “Da Inner Sound Y’all”—will morph Webster Hall into the ultimate celebration of De La Soul on the eve of the group’s music arriving on streaming services March 3. Produced in conjunction with Amazon Music, the event will unite family, friends, and fans for a celebration of Dave and De La Soul. The venue will be transformed with artwork from the group’s classic album, 3 Feet High and Rising.
The Originals (Stretch Armstrong, Clark Kent, Rich Medina, and Tony Touch) will curate a DJ set dedicated to the De La Soul’s legacy. Fans can watch the set on Maseo’s Twitch Channel starting at 8 p.m. ET. Meanwhile, Posdnuos and Maseo, along with other VIPs, will be on hand at the event to celebrate their brother Dave. Fans can RSVP to the free event here: thedaisyexperience.com.
The Amazon Music channel on Twitch will livestream a series of interviews with friends of De La Soul and special guests, hosted by Rob Markman and Free Marie, starting at 10:30 p.m. EST.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 27 February 2023 23:09 (one year ago) link
Are these reissues going to have replayed elements instead of original samples? Major bummer if the samples aren’t 100% present and correct.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 27 February 2023 23:41 (one year ago) link
Will the physical reissues of your albums be exactly the same as the originals, or did you need to redo some of the samples? johnnymoseleyPosdnuos: A lot of work went into getting hold of the masters and remastering, but everything will sound as tight and beautiful as you remember.Maseo: It was frustrating that our first six albums weren’t on Spotify [owing to record company disputes]. It felt like we were being erased from history. Newer fans would ask: “Where’s your older stuff?” Now, they’ll be able to get it.Well this makes it sound like these reissues will be shit shows featuring garbage relays of the original samples. I’ll wait and see but I’m the answer to this direct question is troubling.
― brotherlovesdub, Monday, 27 February 2023 23:45 (one year ago) link
i mean i thought we all agreed that the "official" version of "magic number" (that's been there for several weeks now) definitely has some missing / different elements?
― up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Monday, 27 February 2023 23:50 (one year ago) link
(and i like it just fine?)
(I'm happy you like it just fine.) (I don't.)
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 00:15 (one year ago) link
I read that Prince Paul was working on the sample re-dos on the reissues as well
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 01:10 (one year ago) link