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I can't tell if she's a f/t bigot or just completely incurious about the existence of anyone but people from her own comfortable social circle. I remember someone posting about being in attendance of one of her lectures and she made some hamfisted point about how the Romans used to laugh at disabled people and we don't do that anymore, without making it clear if this was a good thing or a bad thing.

calzino, Monday, 20 February 2023 11:52 (one year ago) link

basically her shtick seems to be hiding behind some (Roman?) notion of sanctity of debate, or some shit like that. Standard morally defunct terf apologism if we are being honest. And she follows all the worst ones on twitter.

calzino, Monday, 20 February 2023 12:31 (one year ago) link

Mary supports freedom of debate and has been consistent in taking that stance. But let us look at what that actually means in this instance. First of all, it is a debate about whether or not a fundamental identity exists or not (ones, indeed, currently recognised by law), and so it is I think reasonable for everyone to be aware of the consequences of seeking to debate those. I would invite Mary to consider whether she would be quite so cavalier when it comes to homosexuality. There are, after all, a number of religions that still hold that it is essentially against nature. Sure, we can have a debate about the contingency of sexuality and gender, and their development over time, but that's not what we are talking about here: it's about whether certain identities do or should exist at all. Second, there is no point encouraging debate on such fundamental issues if you are not actually going to stand up for your beliefs and values and argue for them. Otherwise, it is simply offering a megaphone, or worse, to those you claim to oppose. If it really should go without saying what those values are, then why not say politely but clearly to those angling to weaponise you in this dispute that you follow people despite their positions on these fundamental identities and that you are not seeking or welcoming their endorsement? Sure, you might lose some followers, but would that really be anything to lose sleep over?

this is from the blog that I summarising very badly about her twitter interactions with terfs

calzino, Monday, 20 February 2023 12:55 (one year ago) link

ah well forget her then, it's not like her tv shows on her actual job are any good

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 February 2023 13:21 (one year ago) link

it’s true! where did she get this reputation??

Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 February 2023 13:33 (one year ago) link

maybe she has a level of academic chops, idk. doesn't mean that people who do are all capable of writing good non-academic books about their field, or good tv docs. there are a bunch of really dumb, painfully patronising one-liners in the programmes i've seen her do about Rome

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 February 2023 13:43 (one year ago) link

she said some appalling shit a while back defending the oxfam workers who abused women and children in haiti and elsewhere (along the lines of how can anyone be expected keep their morality in places like these) and then posted a tearful selfie while characterising the criticism she received from black feminists as abuse - nothing to do with trans issues but still terfy as fuck behaviour

your original display name is still visible (Left), Monday, 20 February 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link

watching Dan Cruikshank's Around the World in 80 Treasures on the iPlayer is very soothing and enjoyable

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link

proper old bastards being much better at doing history programs shocker! My son keeps playing a YT video of him going up the steps of big ben and that is probably conclusive proof that his voice does indeed possess soothing AMSR qualities. Not a compliment I'd give to Dan Snow.

calzino, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link

exactly, he's refreshingly non-macho compared to today's Dans

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link

I'm so grateful for the ordinary Dans that fill the bbc schedules these days rather than people like Berger and Brownowski - who weren't even hunks, for goodness sake!

calzino, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64920557

how do you spell 'pyrrhic'?

("Gary Lineker to step back from presenting Match of the Day")

koogs, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:12 (one year ago) link

Ahhhh fuk

Tracer Hand, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link

The problem for the BBC is that the impartiality needle they’ve constructed can’t be threaded: presenters can have opinions on issues that matter to them, but NOT if those issues are controversial and political. So you’re left with being able to voice your opinions about uncontroversial topics that political parties are not discussing. Best BTS member I guess, or what brand of toothpaste works best. It’s risible.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

Hold on I thought the Beeb liked all sides of an argument expressed, e.g. climate change. Speaking of which:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/10/david-attenborough-bbc-wild-isles-episode-rightwing-backlash-fears

No Hackett Required (Matt #2), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

ffs

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

tories objected to being compared to the third reich. there's an easy way to stop that happening and it's not fining people for rescuing drowning refugees.

koogs, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link

Everybody knows what Match of the Day means to me, but I’ve told the BBC I won’t be doing it tomorrow. Solidarity.

— Ian Wright (@IanWright0) March 10, 2023

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link

Striker strike

No Hackett Required (Matt #2), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

What scab will be presenting it I wonder.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

Damn Ian! Shots fired! I love it!

Tracer Hand, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

Everybody knows what Match of the Day means to me, but I’ve told the BBC I won’t be doing it tomorrow. Solidarity.

— Ian Wright (@IanWright0) March 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

Sorry lol xps

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link

they introduced sats when I was at high school and all of the teachers refused to invigilate them except two - the malevolent home economics teacher and the evil woodwork teacher who had a hitler moustache.

trying to work out who the bbc sport equivalent of these people is and it's probably graham souness.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

Shearer obv.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link

they could get matt le tissier on to talk about chemtrails over the vitality stadium

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link

Here’s Raymond Domenech with the horoscopes

giant bat fucker (gyac), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link

Christ they’ll get Baddiel in

giant bat fucker (gyac), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

get led by donky to do it

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link

klinsman obv

Tracer Hand, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link

Chappers’ll do it obviously

crisp, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link

baroness chapman a big prem fan ?

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Friday, 10 March 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link

this is baddiel's hot take. I mean my expectations were already low, but

Indeed. There *is* a 1930s equivalence, which is propaganda by the right-wing British press and British Blackshirts towards Jews seeking asylum. But in Germany, it wasn't about immigrants. The language of hate and disenfranchisement was targeted towards their own citizens. https://t.co/KlQDOczOjz

— David Baddiel (@Baddiel) March 9, 2023

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 10 March 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link

gods bless Wrighty tbh

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 March 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link

can now add moral cowardice to Shearer's long list of attributes (including bully and tory voting cnut)

calzino, Friday, 10 March 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

and if you thought things couldn't get worse...

BBC statement on last night's @bbcquestiontime pic.twitter.com/Yunqb0Pp4X

— BBC News Press Team (@BBCNewsPR) March 10, 2023

koogs, Friday, 10 March 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link

She's an ambassador for Refuge and I hope they ask her to step down.

steely flan (suzy), Friday, 10 March 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

not Shearer

I have informed the BBC that I won’t be appearing on MOTD tomorrow night.

— Alan Shearer (@alanshearer) March 10, 2023

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 10 March 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link

Well done Shearer!

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 10 March 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link

Strong European Super League energy right now.

Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 10 March 2023 18:47 (one year ago) link

The BBC has decided not to broadcast an episode of David Attenborough’s flagship new series on British wildlife because of fears its themes of the destruction of nature would risk a backlash from Tory politicians and the rightwing press, the Guardian has been told.

The decision has angered the programme-makers and some insiders at the BBC, who fear the corporation has bowed to pressure from lobbying groups with “dinosaurian ways”.

the bbc directors seems to be making a lot of very bad decisions, ones that are exclusively biased and pandering to the hard right-wing elements of government and the press that would have them privatised tomorrow. While putting the hypocritical imposition on Lineker it's got to be "impartiality" or career death. They've lost the plot, even more than usual lately.

xp

absolutely shell-shocked by Shearer!

calzino, Friday, 10 March 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link

calzino the initial story on Wild Isles was very misleading and has now been changed, with this quote now added from the BBC

“This is totally inaccurate, there is no ‘sixth episode’. Wild Isles is – and always was - a five part series and does not shy away from environmental content. We have acquired a separate film for iPlayer from the RSPB and WWF and Silverback Films about people working to preserve and restore the biodiversity of the British Isles.”

Tracer Hand, Friday, 10 March 2023 19:04 (one year ago) link

pic.twitter.com/7oz2ZTxgef

— Matthew Myspace (@MatofKilburnia) March 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 March 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link

xp

ah right, it would have seemed strange decision since they've been plugging the fuck out of it all week!

calzino, Friday, 10 March 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link

less of a surprise, but an interesting way to announce it

FYI… pic.twitter.com/UboKKdTjxG

— Alex Scott MBE (@AlexScott) March 10, 2023

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 10 March 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link

Labour condemning BBC cowardice after parroting the Tory attacks on Lineker all week feels parodically LOTOVMIC.

Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 10 March 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link

Micah Richards out now.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 10 March 2023 19:27 (one year ago) link

I just want to let everybody know, I also will not be presenting Match Of The Day this weekend

Tracer Hand, Friday, 10 March 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link

A list

Who's the Tory on the MotD team? Not Ian Wright or Alan Shearer: so, we're waiting on:

Martin Keown
Danny Murphy
Micah Richards
Jermaine Jenas https://t.co/lTuz6XjFnu

— Metatone (@Metatone2) March 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 March 2023 19:35 (one year ago) link

current name out there is Jermaine Jenas

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 10 March 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link


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