i think the discography on this site pretty much covers it.http://www.thewonder.co.uk/facts/index.htm
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 17 February 2023 22:39 (one year ago) link
Listening to 'Warm and Cool' on youtube now, it's sick. Billy Ficca on drums. Sometimes it sounds like nothing so much as a John Scofield album, other times skronky free improv.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link
Anyone know why his Thrill Jockey records are out-of-print/not streaming? Seems weird, maybe that's what he wanted, or a money dispute?
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link
I’m surprised at how much I warmed to Flash Light after several listens— meh, meh, meh, eh this just ain’t it, hmm, aright, and then BAM i love this. The expanded guitar sound finally sounded more verlaine-normal or something to me.I came to this album after decades of MM and stray other stuff. From listen one I could hear his playing in this, but the mor atmospherics just didn’t work. Until they totally did. What a nice thing. Now I wonder what it would have been like if I’d heard this one first. Would I have had the reverse difficulty going the other direction? I must have, I think.
― liberal with a capital LIE (Hunt3r), Friday, 3 March 2023 04:23 (one year ago) link
richard hell in the new yorker:
Were you in touch with Verlaine before he died, recently?
No. I never recovered from what felt to me at the time like a total betrayal. Our relationship was really complex. We were so close, but it always makes me think of how I once got a postcard from Ted Berrigan advertising a reading he was doing with Ron Padgett, and on the postcard he said, “Ron and I hate each other as only best friends can.” And then, when that thing happened with that split, it just, it was final. When I would see him, I would invariably come away thinking, He just rubs me the wrong way. Even though he was my best friend, and in lots of ways we had more in common than anybody else in my life. Those are the most impressionable years; they’re when you’re forming, and, if you shared that experience with someone you’re with constantly, it’s eternal. It doesn’t go away. So I still have that feeling of brotherhood with him, even though I couldn’t stand being in his presence. But there was a funny thing that happened right after he died. There was this little book about graffiti at CBGB, and I wrote an introduction for it, and, within the first couple of days after Verlaine died, I’d be looking for references to what happened, and I came across this tweet, which the editor of the book who approached me to write the intro tweeted. When he was doing this book, he first approached Verlaine to write the intro, and Verlaine demurred, but said to him, “I can’t stand the guy, but you gotta get Richard Hell.” [Laughs.] And that gave me a really good feeling. Because it was the same for me, about him.
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/how-richard-hell-found-his-vocation
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 16:51 (ten months ago) link
aw damn.
― serving aunt (stevie), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 17:03 (ten months ago) link
Excellent.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 17:04 (ten months ago) link
whole interview was great
― tylerw, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 17:08 (ten months ago) link
Thanks! Reminds me of this extended review re Hell's memoir-lit-literary sketchbook I Dreamed I Was a Very Clean Tramp, with the Kentucky boyo setting up Village camp in the 60s, soliciting and then rejecting a poem from Ginsberg for his zine and all, also for instance, way later but still pre-Neon Boys, I think?
Hell dates his "junkie mentality" to before he was actually using--to Theresa Stern, the hooker poet he and Verlaine invented and impersonated in their collaborative 1973 collection Wanna Go Out?
"I can’t imagine what it was like for Tom Verlaine and Richard Hell when they were getting started; to have a weird voice, and wanting to sing for a band in NYC, without the advantage of being able to just rip off Tom Verlaine or Richard Hell."https://zacharylipez.ghost.io/eight-unfinished-essays-on-marquee-moon/
https://zacharylipez.ghost.io/eight-unfinished-essays-on-marquee-moon/
― dow, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 17:32 (ten months ago) link
god i really relate to what hell says about verlaine
things are kind of like that with my ex, this sense of mutual betrayal. people i respect but on a personal level i never want to fucking talk to again.
Definitely. I think you get some relief. So why do you have to go pay somebody to sit there and listen to you do it? Most of what people are is chemical. It’s biological. Did you ever see [Michael Apted’s] “Seven Up!” movies? The seven-year-olds are still the same, even at seventy. You don’t change. You’re who you were at three.
...what? did _he_ see the up series? like art is subjective but how the _fuck_ did he get that from the films?
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 17:38 (ten months ago) link
NYC booksellers band together to hold resale of Tom Verlaine's collection of 50,000 books
https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/news/nyc-booksellers-band-together-hold-resale-of-tom-verlaine-collection-of-books
― Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:25 (eight months ago) link
There is another sale of his books going on (bigger space). Tomorrow, books go for five bucks. A few copies of the Theresa Stern zine (I think they were going for 25?) https://www.instagram.com/p/C0MwmeSOWqu/
― jbn, Saturday, 2 December 2023 22:28 (four months ago) link
probly most people reading this thread know, but just in case: tylerw's blog Doom And Gloom From The Tomb, on Tumblr and now Substack, has always been an excellent source of TV (and much other) info x soundz...
― dow, Sunday, 3 December 2023 02:03 (four months ago) link
Is there a list of his books (for sale or otherwise) posted somewhere? Currently having trouble seeing all of the Instagram post.
― dow, Sunday, 3 December 2023 02:06 (four months ago) link
Doubt there's a list. I went yesterday and there were large sections of fiction (especially poetry), occult/religion/spirituality, art, movies and music (which had a ton of books about using vacuum tubes in recording).
― jbn, Sunday, 3 December 2023 17:27 (four months ago) link
they've put some pricey ones on line.
https://www.betterreadthandeadbooks.com/searchResults.php?action=browse&category_id=365
they had a few 'theresa stern' originals on the table for $600 each. and other things like that.
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 3 December 2023 18:21 (four months ago) link
There's a magazine special on the band out at the moment that I saw at the airport and now regret not buying. Uncut. May have been older but was in there on Wednesday maybe shelflife longer in an airport newsagent.
― Stevo, Sunday, 3 December 2023 19:19 (four months ago) link
That came out this year but I don’t think it reached U.S. newsstands until very recently. Still, I’d get one sooner than later just in case they didn’t stock many copies.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 3 December 2023 19:56 (four months ago) link
I wrote about Marquee Moon in the Uncut special! Came out in October I think?
― Piedie Gimbel, Sunday, 3 December 2023 20:57 (four months ago) link
I wrote about the band's live albums + bootlegs in the Uncut special! It is a cool mag, definitely grab it if you see it.
― tylerw, Sunday, 3 December 2023 21:12 (four months ago) link
How do you even wind up with 50,000 books! Lets assume he showed up in NYC in 72 or whatever with >10 books. He really bought 20 books a week, every week, for the rest of his life?
― Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Sunday, 3 December 2023 22:54 (four months ago) link
He was at the Strand every single day, going through the dollar bins, so I can see that leading up to 50,000.
― birdistheword, Monday, 4 December 2023 07:47 (four months ago) link
How do you even wind up with 50,000 books!― Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro)
― Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro)
It gets away from you fast, trust me
Doubt there's a list. I went yesterday and there were large sections of fiction (especially poetry), occult/religion/spirituality, art, movies and music (which had a ton of books about using vacuum tubes in recording).― jbn, Sunday, December 3, 2023 11:27 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― jbn, Sunday, December 3, 2023 11:27 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Apparently lots of really weird, cheap-o UFO books as well
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 4 December 2023 14:35 (four months ago) link
i imagine verlaine bought a bunch of collections sight unseen, too – like those random ebay auctions that are like "12 boxes of books for $100" ... pretty funny, he must've at least entertained the idea of opening a bookstore at some point. tom would've been a great cranky dude behind the counter, glaring at your lame purchases.
― tylerw, Monday, 4 December 2023 15:25 (four months ago) link
Highlights:-Running into Sang Freud & Wife!!....-couple of books concerning da blooze.-Stockhausen interviews-book of jazz interviews (a gift!)-Photo/text book abt West Virginia traditional music -2 copies of the Bernie Kraus book/cd of his nature recordings/journals. (one will be a gift.)-A book about the history of Martin Guitars (also a gift)-Ellroy & Gibson 1st editions-Sidney Bechet "Treat It Gentle"-book of Raymond Chandler essays/interiews/miscellany.-book of essays about Ross MacDonald
some more stuff too.. from what I gather, yesterday was a lot mellower than Saturday.
You can see some of the items from the collection that have been listed on the BRTD website-https://www.betterreadthandeadbooks.com/searchResults.php?action=browse&category_id=365
― ian, Monday, 4 December 2023 17:19 (four months ago) link
great seeing you, ian!!
between the two of us we amassed 31 books, mostly from the literature section and some music stuff. i'll list some titles at some point.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 00:38 (four months ago) link
"1880 or so" is the best song ever written
"the fragrance sweetin the evening airi could leave this worldquite without a care"
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 18:16 (three months ago) link
Definitely my favorite non-Marquee Moon Television song.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 22:09 (three months ago) link