ILM Ballot Polls for 2020 and beyond -- the ordering, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

Would there be interest in a Native Tongues poll? (Or De La Soul, ATCQ, etc separately -- I'm just feeling like it might be interesting to tackle it all together seeing as discussion of one so often extends to the other(s) within a few posts.)

Speaking of countries, an Country Music genre poll could be interesting.

― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, February 3, 2023 3:31 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

Seconded

Results Bookmark:
ILM's Top 77 Tracks of 2022: 17th Anniversary Edition

Precursors to the numbered list:

A. Pavement - Johnny Fever (finished)
B. Manic Street Preachers - Jamie_ATP (finished)
C. Blur - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)

1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)
2. The Beatles - Mark G (finished)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (finished)
4. U2 - Ismael Klata (finished)
5. The Beach Boys - iatee (finished)
6. Led Zeppelin - WmC (finished)
7. Timbaland - some dude (finished)
8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever (finished)
9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H. (finished)
10. “Producers” - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
11. Pulp - Finefinemusic (finished)
12. James Brown - strongo/Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
13. The Jacksons - Jamie_ATP (finished)
14. David Bowie - WmC (finished)
15. Paul Simon - Lamp (finished)
16. The Rolling Stones - rogermexico (finished)
17. The Kinks - C. Grisso/McCain (finished)
18. Depeche Mode - crüt (finished)
19. Beastie Boys - Johnny Fever (finished)
20. ABBA - donna rouge (finished)
20B. Bee Gees - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
21. Neil Young - clemenza (finished)
22. Fleetwood Mac - Clarke B. (finished)
23. The Cure - nate woolls (finished)
24. Kate Bush - Ismael Klata (finished)
25. The Who - Tarfumes the Escape Goat (finished)
26. Joni Mitchell - Mordy (finished)
27. The Neptunes - V79/some dude (finished)
28. Saint Etienne - Billy Dods (finished)
29. Hüsker Dü - Pleasant Plains (finished)
30. Bruce Springsteen - Jamie_ATP (finished)
31. Madonna - Johnny Fever (finished)
32. Miles Davis - WmC (finished)
33. The Fall - Mark G (finished)
34. PJ Harvey - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)
35. Cocteau Twins - Le Bateau Ivre/LeRooLeRoo (finished)
36. Sonic Youth - ArchCarrier (finished)
37. New Order - Bee OK with Millsner (images)
37B. The Doors - Ismael Klata (finished)
38. The Clash - Gukbe (finished)
39. Motown Singles - a hoy hoy (finished)
40. Jay-Z - some dude (finished)
41. Elton John - Johnny Fever (finished)
42. Stax - seandalai (finished)
43. Disco - Tuomas (finished)
44. R. Kelly - Spottie_Ottie_Dope (finished)
45. Tom Waits - chap (finished)
45B. Velvet Underground and Solo Careers - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
46. The “Classic Rock” Canon - some dude (finished)
47. Elvis Costello - kornrulez (finished)
48. Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry - charlie h (finished)
49. Pink Floyd - Elvis Telecom (finished)
50. Steely Dan - Bee OK with pplains (images)
51. Bob Dylan - tipsy mothra (finished)
52. Sleater-Kinney + offshoots - C.Grisso/McCain (finished)
53. Outkast - Spottie (finished)
54. Autechre - Leee (finished)
55. Brian Eno - WmC (finished)
56. Radiohead - nate woolls (finished)
57. Spaceman 3 (& descendants) - Elvis Telecom (finished)
58. "Epics" - Leee (finished)
59. XTC - Οὖτις (finished)
60. The Boo Radleys - Bee OK (finished)
61. Yo La Tengo - Van Horn Street/clemenza (finished)
62. Creedence Clearwater Revival - crüt (finished)
63. Ramones - tipsy mothra (finished)
64. Italo - daavid (finished)
65. P-Funk - Οὖτις (finished)
66. Metallica - pplains (finished)
67. Spoon - Bee OK with The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall (images)
68. Queen - charlie h (finished)
69. Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds (finished)
69B. Pixies - Johnny Fever (finished)
70. Extreme Metal - Viceroy (finished)
71. Tom Petty - rogermexico. (finished)
72. The Smiths - nate woolls (finished)
73. Bauhaus/Tones on Tail-Love and Rockets/Peter Murphy - Bee OK (finished)
74. Stereolab - Moka (finished)
75. Van Halen - Johnny Fever (finished)
76. Devo - soref (finished)
77. Can - Z S Moka (finished)
78. Oasis - Bee OK (finished)
79. George Michael - Ismael Klata (finished)
80. The Stooges/Iggy Pop - Moka (finished)
81. Leonard Cohen - Simon H. (finished)
82. Talking Heads - Bee OK with pplains (images)
83. Blondie - nate woolls (finished)
84. Van Morrison - kornrulez6969 (finished)
85. Wu-Tang Clan - Spottie (finished)
86. Joy Division – Bee OK (finished)
87. The Smashing Pumpkins - ufo (finished)
88. Björk – Eric H (finished)
89. Beatles solo careers - Οὖτις (finished)
90. Elvis Presley - Euler and Moka (images) - (finished)
91. Tori Amos - ufo (finished)
92. They Might Be Giants - sic (finished)
93. The B-52's - Bee OK/Karl Malone (finished)
94. Belle and Sebastian - Nag! Nag! Nag! (finished)
95. Songs Under 2 Minutes - Karl Malone (finished)
96. The Burt Bacharach songbook – WmC (finished)
97. Beck – Bee OK with One Eye Open (images)
98. The Go-Betweens - Nag! Nag! Nag! (finished)
99. Cat Power – Leee (finished)
2020
100. Prefab Sprout – Nag! Nag! Nag! (finished)
101. Jimi Hendrix - C. Grisso/McCain (finished)
102. Underworld – sic (finished)
103. Janet Jackson – Eric H. (finished)
104. The Replacements – Nag! Nag! Nag! (finished)
105. The Cramps – Moka (finished)
106. Nick Cave/Bad Seeds/Birthday Party/et al – charlie rex (finished)
2021
107. Todd Rundgren - Naive Teen Idol
108. MF Doom – maffew12
109. The Afghan Whigs -ufo
110. ZZ Top - C. Grisso/McCain
111. Low – ufo
2022
112. Music Videos – clemenza
113. Daft Punk – Bee OK with nashwan (images)
114. Broadcast - Nag! Nag! Nag!
115. Wilco/Jeff Tweedy - Indexed
116. The Police – Bee OK

Hard Rock/Hair Metal - gr8080
Stephin Merritt – Gukbe Nag! Nag! Nag!
Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods
Genesis + solo - NickB
Dead C - Raymond Cummings
Royal Trux + side projects - sleeve
John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?
Rush - Matt #2
Gamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfan
Billy Joel - Poll runner needed
Nine Inch Nails - chap
REM - rogermexico. Hideous Lump added to do images
Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs) - Bee OK
Covers - kornrulez6969
New Pornographers/AC Newman - C. Grisso/McCain added as poll runner
No Wave - sarahell
DFA - Van Horn Street
Misfits/Samhain/Danzig - gr8080
Erykah Badu - Eric H.
Herbie Hancock - crüt
Aphex Twin - Moka
The Jesus and Mary Chain - Bee OK
Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis - Spottie
Siouxsie & the Banshees/The Creatures - LeRooLeRoo
AM Radio Gold - Jeff W
Eurovision - nxd
Steve Albini - nate woolls
Yellow Magic Orchestra - frogbs
Byrds + offshoots - kornrulez6969
Cardiacs + affiliated - imago
Tropicalia/MPB - Frederik B
Chic Organization - donna rouge
French/Francophone - Van Horn Street
The Cars/Ric Ocasek - crüt
Tim Buckley - Naive Teen Idol
Bristol trip-hop - chap
Wire - kornrulez6969
Jungle/Drum 'n Bass - Le Bateau Ivre
Suede - Bee OK
Robyn Hitchcock - campreverb
Power Ballads - rogermexico.
Grunge - Cosmic Slop
Artists poll - Dan Worsley
Kylie Minogue - BradNelson
Math-rock/Hardcore/Post-Hardcore poll - Odysseus
Phil Spector - crüt
Glen Campbell - ― Spottie
QOTSA/Desert Sessions - rogermexico.
T Rex - Naive Teen Idol
Bardo Pond – Leee
Super Furry Animals – wtev Bee OK
Nu Metal Trax – Mordy
Linda Ronstadt – crüt
New Wave (just can’t get enough) Albums and Singles - Bee OK
Easy Listening/Adult Contemporary – dyl
Serge Gainsbourg - Camaraderie at Arms Length
Galaxie 500/Luna - Bee OK
Girl Groups singles poll - Dan Worsley
Phil Elverum - devvvine
Wussy - clemenza
Psychedelic Rock – Leee
Sparks - Dan Worsley
Loudon Wainwright III - James Redd and the Blecchs
Dinosaur Jr - Nag! Nag! Nag!
Japan/ David Sylvian - ufo

*added since last update:

Punk – Was Canceled in 2022 and looking for poll runner
Country – Kruezer2
Randy Newman? - Nag! Nag! Nag!
Canterbury Scene poll - Camaraderie at Arms Length
The National - Bee OK
Taylor Swift - Indexed
Black Sabbath - Karl Malone
J Dilla Productions - Chris L
Best Canadian Songs – clemenza

bee i vote for you usurping everything and us skipping straight to shoegaze + post-rock.

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I rescind the Badu poll. I have waited too long … even longer than it’s been since her last album

I’m not running J Dilla, if anyone wants that one.

You do a great job of upkeep on this. The list is so insanely long now, I'd have something like a one-month window where people can check in and say "Yes, I still want to do this," and if you don't hear from someone, or they say they've lost interest, drop that from the list. You can delete me for Wussy, for instance--there wouldn't have been much interest in the first place, and by now there'd be almost none. I'd like to the Canadian poll, any time starting in March, and that's it.

I'm hesitant on removing anything from the list, unless asked by the original poster asking to be put in the queue but do understand the concern. I think you asked me to remove Wussy before but forgot. I will removed that from the list along with Chris L request.

Austin, I hear you and that poll will be a lot of fun but I'm on board for Super Furry Animals next as that one is in such high demand and I have put it off for too long. It will be done this year.

#117 is next, anyone ready to run a poll?

Speaking of countries, an Country Music genre poll could be interesting.

― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, February 3, 2023 3:31 PM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

Was thinking about this, and it feels way too massive to tackle. How would people feel about a female-only country poll? If there's interest, I think I have time to run it but would need to get it done before the last week of March or wait until later in the year.

Would love to see the Herbie and Aphex polls this year, but it's probably going to be 2027 at this rate

I mean, is there any percentage in keeping up a rigorous schedule at this point? I feel like unless it’s like there’s a chance 2 artist polls will have significant overlap it’s not gonna harm either one, and more often than not there’s no poll running at all. I’d say if you’re up for running a poll go for it and fuck the schedule, a remnant of a bygone era.

polls happen irregularly enough now that i don't see the point in keeping a list of reservations when there's some that have been there for years and years - originally there were so many people who wanted to run polls that it made sense to have a schedule, but now we have the opposite problem. if someone wants to say 'i want to run X poll sometime in the next few months' then that's good but we probably don't need anything more than that.

i like the idea of a Canuk tunes poll. it would be interesting to see how non Canadians view the stuff Canada has pumped out (not always penetrating far beyond our boarders).

and if a NIN poll ever happens i'd be glad to help out with images.

I think Serge Gainsbourg works better for me as a listening thread rather than a poll.

Canterbury Scene I'm still up for, but don't have time right now. May do later in the year.

(xpost) I hit my 50-day limit on supply teaching at the end of February, so I'd be ready to start a Canadian poll later next week. But if someone else has been waiting for a gap, you go ahead.

I can probably start the Aphex Twin voting thread but actual results will probably take a while - possibly may-june. So maybe I can keep the voting open for a month or more lol.

If not I can start the vote thread around May.

Speaking of countries, an Country Music genre poll could be interesting.

― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, February 3, 2023 3:31 PM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

Was thinking about this, and it feels way too massive to tackle. How would people feel about a female-only country poll? If there's interest, I think I have time to run it but would need to get it done before the last week of March or wait until later in the year.

― Indexed, Friday, February 24, 2023 2:46 PM

Still very broad. Howzabout 1950-69 or 1970-89. A lot of fun to be had there.

Not opposed at all, JF, just more passionate about the idea of a Women In Country poll. If more than a couple people say they'd vote, I'll start next week with the goal of a rollout the third week of March.

Maybe I can reserve a spot for the Canadian poll right after that finishes.

Very much open to an Aphex poll with a long voting period Moka

Would give me (& others I presume) time revisit the soundcloud dump

I'd certainly participate in a Canadian songs poll, but I'd be concerned that, with a relatively small number of voters with wide-ranging tastes, it might end up atomized - dozens and dozens of single votes for interesting artists from 70 years from all ends of the country. On the other hand, if we impose a limitation (such as "only underrated songs" or only from a certain time period), that's probably going to further limit the amount of ballots that could come in. So, a conundrum.

So a poll where we can vote for the complete works of Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, Leonard Cohen, Carli Rae Jepsen, Rush, Grimes, Feist, Shania Twain, deadmau5, Michael Bublé AND Drake?

Plus Oscar Peterson, Dream Warriors, Deja Voodoo, Skinny Puppy, Anne Murray, New Pornographers, Martha and the Muffins, Tanya Tagaq, Harmonium, Triumph, Gilles Vigneault, AND the Rankin Family!

And Organized Rhyme.

I think there's a wealth of stuff for a Canadian poll. (Though I'll admit to being at least a decade out of touch.) I'd try to gently suggest that voters limit themselves to one or two Neil/Joni songs--that would be the biggest danger if left unchecked, I think, that it becomes Neil vs. Joni--but, obviously, vote for whatever you want.

Or Neil/Joni/Carly Rae Jepsen--she seems to be popular around here.

i'm not in a position to tell ppl what is canadian and what isn't, but for myself there's a difference between those, like neil and joni, who decamped to california 50 years ago, and those, like the hip/sloan/~RUSH~, who did not

Bob & Doug McKenzie should win, however it shakes out.

that wasn't even funny 35 years ago

Take off, eh

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This is underway:

POLL of Many Colors - ILM Artists Poll #117 - Women of Country Music

I'd like to claim the next spot in line for a Canadian poll.

Half of my list will be arcade fire and skinny puppy.

Open the Canadian noms thread asap lest this thread become it

A certain TV theme song will be my #1 in that one.

Sure, The Littlest Hobo.

The Trouble with Tracy had a theme song?

I don't want to interfere with the other poll, but will open everything up right after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDxH98aWjmI

That theme song (kith) is literally playing at the diner I am currently sitting on!

There seems to be a hot desire to discuss Canadiana. D’you think an open noms thread (with deets on the poll itself TBD) would step on Women in Country?

I think that’s actually a Dolly song - “Ain’t No Canadian Gonna Step On Women In Country”

Wait, no, a proper noms thread would be a bridge too far… but whyn’t we take Canadian pre-noms discussion over here: ILM's Top 100 Canadian Albums

Wait, no, a proper noms thread would be a bridge too far… but whyn’t we take Canadian pre-noms discussion over here: ILM's Top 100 Canadian Albums

Any objections to me getting a Canadian poll thread set up over the weekend?

no objection, but count me in for a vote in that one!

no objection, but count me in for a vote in that one!

nice try, no voting twice!

Going to do some clean up:

POLL Miner's Daughter - ILM Artists Poll #117 - Women of Country Music - Results Thread

#118 has started, for you bookmarkers:

ILM Ballot Poll #118: I Been Hangin' Around Grain Elevators: The ILM Canadian Pop Music Poll (Nominating/Voting Thread)

Now that I have figured out formatting, I'm going to over time, going to go back an update all my polls that I have run on this board. This will take some time but going to work my way backwards. Don't need to fix the Police poll as that is how I finally figured out how I want everything to look.