I think that this film club needs to do the On The Buses film trilogy to truly capture how it was in Ted Heath's Pre & Post EEC Britain.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Friday, 10 February 2023 22:40 (one year ago) link
I think we can all agree that the ending to Annie Hall is, in effect, a happy one
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 February 2023 23:00 (one year ago) link
"just glad there are some people left who can make that distinction between the person and the film (easier with Rosemary's Baby/Chinatown, I think, just because they're so much better as films; also, Polanski's largely invisible"
I wouldn't watch a Polanski film nowadays either, Clemenza. I have no interest in supporting their work while these people are alive.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 February 2023 23:34 (one year ago) link
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Friday, 10 February 2023 bookmarkflaglink
We just have to step outside for that, these days..
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 February 2023 23:40 (one year ago) link
I’m in
― hrep (H.P), Friday, 10 February 2023 23:45 (one year ago) link
I think we can all agree that the ending to _Annie Hall_ is, in effect, a happy one
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 February 2023 23:51 (one year ago) link
Ugh, for some reason, I ventured outside this safe haven and ended up interacting with Jeffrey Wells. Not pleasant.
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 February 2023 00:07 (one year ago) link
Yeah I'm in, tho can't promise to keep up every week - one objective I have this year is to watch more films from the rest of the world than US films overall and while these lists are varied and wonderful I fear they'd still land me on the wrong side of that in the end.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 11 February 2023 11:10 (one year ago) link
Why does ILX hate L'Atalante so much?
― Alba, Saturday, 11 February 2023 11:13 (one year ago) link
Is this true?
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 February 2023 11:32 (one year ago) link
Yes, fuck all canal barges.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 11 February 2023 11:46 (one year ago) link
Alba can you tell which ilxors are hating I'll bully them for you.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 February 2023 12:43 (one year ago) link
Ha ha I was just making a glib comment after seeing the spreadsheet and noticing tha it placed relatively well in the S&S top 100s but nowhere with ILX.
― Alba, Saturday, 11 February 2023 12:50 (one year ago) link
I think that applies even more to Beau Travail but I was looking at the early films.
― Alba, Saturday, 11 February 2023 12:51 (one year ago) link
Gonna watch Beau Travail in a proper theater next week -- my first non-DVD/streaming experience w/it!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 February 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link
While everyone's gearing up, a reasonably engaging quiz:
Try this quiz - https://t.co/yyLpPtjiKP pic.twitter.com/fdHFKTXEpL— DVDBeaver (@DVDBeaver) February 11, 2023
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 11 February 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link
66/100. I raced through it, probably wouldn't have done much better if I'd taken my time (I either knew it or guessed--though I would have gone back and changed a few guesses based on subsequent answers).
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link
more mainstream:https://www.cinenerdle2.app/
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link
68/100. Projectionist but no professor. But what's wrong with being a projectionist?
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link
Wtf, I'm boycotting this quiz
― Alba, Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link
Reasoning?
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link
Putting professors above projectionists!
― Alba, Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link
Ah!
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link
96/100 and only because I accidentally put Jacques Rivette when I meant François Truffaut
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:58 (one year ago) link
Check out the big brain on Brad!
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 February 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link
77/100 -- a couple of dumb mistakes on movies I've seen, a couple of lucky guesses on movies I haven't seen
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Saturday, 11 February 2023 19:19 (one year ago) link
71, though at least half were guesses.
― jaymc, Saturday, 11 February 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link
(Some of them informed guesses, though.)
76. About five films I did see and couldn't place grr
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 February 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link
88. Nailed every one I knew, every guess I guessed wrong
― or something, Saturday, 11 February 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link
Oh and messed up Spike Lee . Just couldn't place that image in that film somehow
― or something, Saturday, 11 February 2023 20:28 (one year ago) link
84/100!
I guessed on most of the contemporary Asian stuff, which rarely payed off. And I got the Black female directors all switched around. The only film I've seen that I miscredited was Death of Mr. Lazarescu.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 11 February 2023 21:22 (one year ago) link
I just exchanged texts with my friend who actually is a projectionist but did not mention this quiz.
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 February 2023 22:38 (one year ago) link
I got 89. several of them were guesses based on what I know about the filmmakers’ visual aesthetics or the time periods from the images. I got several directors mixed up - Mizoguchi and Kobayashi, Kazan and Wyler, Etrice and Saura and others. I guessed Larisa Shepitko’s The Ascent correctly only because I have recently seen stills from it on twitter, but I haven’t watched it. Also still have yet to watch Djibril Diop Mambéty’s films, a few of which are on Kanopy, or Cheryl Dunye’s The Watermelon Woman
― Dan S, Sunday, 12 February 2023 01:31 (one year ago) link
My projectionist friend told me about this yesterday:https://framed.wtf
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 14:33 (one year ago) link
oh, it's a one-per-day thing, like wordle
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 12 February 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link
Yes. I only started doing it yesterday.
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 15:14 (one year ago) link
But I like, I like.
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link
I love Framed but I get annoyed every time a Marvel movie zilches my overall record
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:13 (one year ago) link
Will we be using this thread for discussion of films that are not on your list but are still, say, Morbius favorites?
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
Just the ones on the list, think there are several which wouldn't be there without his influence.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link
just downloaded sherlock jr, which i think just sneaks in as public domain. only i seem to have an entirely silent one and i can her neighbours clanking around
― koogs, Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link
Looking through the list, some of my favourite directors, Louis Malle, Miloš Forman, Roy Andersson, Sidney Lumet, are either missing entirely or have a single entry, think this is probably A Good Thing on a personal level, more to explore, less so to those whose favourites are more well-represented I suppose, though otoh everyone likes talking about their favourites.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:40 (one year ago) link
xp There are many different options for watching Sherlock Jr on YouTube with different soundtracks.
To your last post: that is sort of the whole good and bad of lists in a nutshell.
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link
I've watched the first hundred.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 February 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link
For those who have MUBI, try to catch The General over the next 3 days before it gets yanked
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 12 February 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link
I really am going to be forced to watch Holiday on the Buses huh
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 12 February 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link
Whose first place vote was that?
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 12 February 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link
Is Holiday on the Buses the same as Mexican Bus Ride?
― The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link
just learned that the "famous zip girl of the screen" Zelda (very jazz age) was played by rita moreno. although her introduction scene gets stolen by a shouting extra.
https://www.tcm.com/video/1525509/singin-in-the-rain-1951-movie-clip-that-famous-zip-girl
― adam t. (abanana), Sunday, 24 March 2024 21:32 (one month ago) link
also little thing i missed: she's clearly dating the old guy for his money, but the announcer says "zelda's had so much unhappiness, i hope this time it's really love"
― adam t. (abanana), Sunday, 24 March 2024 21:36 (one month ago) link
I find gene Kelly very off-putting and have seen this way too many times
― plax (ico), Thursday, 28 March 2024 06:52 (three weeks ago) link
Watched this yesterday and as always it's a complete joy. Remember when I was a kid my dad saying Donald O'Connor was the best, and being more familiar with silent comedy now I feel like I can really appreciate this. The energy Gene Kelly puts into the Broadway Melody section is also kind of astounding though. As a depiction of the birth of sound film there's a load this gets wrong, but as it was still fairly recent memory I suppose they probably knew but didn't care. It's probably been said a thousand times before but having these in chronological order really underlines how much this most famous example of a big studio musical also marks the end of big studio musicals - those Busby Berkeley dance spectaculars were already history, and this was Kelly's last major hit. I guess this is also the start of Hollywood looking back with nostalgia at its golden age, which it has been doing intermittently ever since. The timescale is bizarre though, the equivalent today would be a film set in the year 2000.
I don't mind Kelly's constant mugging to the camera, but I can understand anyone who finds it off-putting. I'm afraid I find Jean Hagen may be the weak link personally - her comedy performance is of course wonderful, but I just don't buy her as a silent movie star, she doesn't have that theatricality to her face. Kelly isn't 100% convincing either, but he seems to at least be trying.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 March 2024 08:49 (three weeks ago) link
If you want to see a spot-on parody of the problems with early sound film I can heartily recommend this short from 1930
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH7XlG9j0xs
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 March 2024 08:51 (three weeks ago) link
Kelly's mugging helps his character, an insecu.re mediocrity
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 March 2024 11:55 (three weeks ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Ikiru_poster.jpg
Ikiru, Akira Kurosawa, 1952
Morbsies #230Sight & Sound Critics #157Sight & Sound Directors 72
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 March 2024 14:05 (three weeks ago) link
I'm at a loss: the one Kurosawa masterpiece I can't like. I can watch any number of Ozu films from this period about aging/dying men, though.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 March 2024 14:23 (three weeks ago) link
Great film
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 30 March 2024 14:27 (three weeks ago) link
I’m with Alfred aside from the “only Kurosawa I don’t like” part. It’s no secret he’s not at the top of my list of Japanese masters (tho I do quite like his later ones), and in IKIRU’s case I just don’t think I ever get on the same wavelength of its tone. I had higher hopes for this one going in though, so the falloff might have been partially expectation-based
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 March 2024 15:26 (three weeks ago) link
He's still the top of mine so that evens it out!
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 30 March 2024 15:28 (three weeks ago) link
Love Ikiru, it's all about that long final scene with the dudes at the funeral getting drunk and angry and wondering how to Fix Things.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 30 March 2024 21:45 (three weeks ago) link
Yup, it is an amazing thing when the funeral comes on.
Kurosawa is a curious one. I liked to loved pretty the three or four I've seen but I never went onto obsessively track the other half a dozen or so down.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 31 March 2024 00:00 (three weeks ago) link
Kurosawa has like 30 films still available. and of those i think only one is out of print and hard to find (The Idiot)
― koogs, Sunday, 31 March 2024 06:46 (three weeks ago) link
First saw Ikiru as part of a Sociology Of Death college class in the late 80s. Not my favorite Kurosawa, but easily one of my fave watching experiences.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 05:25 (three weeks ago) link
Finished this yesterday, in agreement with most of the above in one way or another, it's kind of tonally all over the place until the last section at the wake, when it finally all clicks this this is less a film about death, and more a film about bureaucracy. Also enjoyed the brief scene in the night club earlier on, I have some Japanese jazz from the era and it's really like nothing else. His son is a prick.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 12 April 2024 21:40 (one week ago) link
Holiday is now available in full on YouTube
― nxd, Saturday, 13 April 2024 11:24 (one week ago) link
So is Ugetsu Monogatari
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 April 2024 13:21 (one week ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Ugetsu_monogatari_poster.jpg
Ugetsu Monogatari, Kenji Mizoguchi, 1953
Morbsies #462Sight & Sound Critics #90
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 April 2024 13:28 (one week ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNPfl1dcTkI
Now that most of his great films have become available in the last 20 years, I have less time for Ugetsu, but it's a landmark of creepiness and erotic sorrow.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 April 2024 13:43 (one week ago) link
Not my favourite Mizoguchi but still devastating, timeless
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 April 2024 13:49 (one week ago) link
Brilliant
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 13 April 2024 16:18 (one week ago) link
The phrase I see a lot is “first among equals.” I submit that there should be a similar and near-equally laudable “second among equals,” which UGETSU probably is, alongside Mizoguchi’s late run
― Rich E. (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 April 2024 16:23 (one week ago) link
I don't want to do "better than" arguments, so I'll try very hard not to do that, but what a movie, what magic he crafted throughout his career but the 50s especially, fuiud
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 April 2024 16:30 (one week ago) link
I've dug thru the source material cos it fascinates me and I'd confidently argue that - like Hitchcock for example - he made his sources his own and made them better. Ugetsu taps a bunch of veins at once, political personal, but the big point is it sticks with you, it transcends what it might be "about"
― Bitchin Doutai (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 13 April 2024 16:36 (one week ago) link
It's strange that the most memorable scene from this for me is where the "samurai" brags about his non-existent virtues to his young cronies. The ghost story stuff is a little vague by comparison, though it obviously made a big impression on Tarkovsky.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 13 April 2024 17:32 (one week ago) link
So this was wild. Don't think I've ever seen anything like it.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 07:09 (one week ago) link
Watched with my wife who knows a decent amount about Japanese ghost culture, my idea was that the story followed a dreamlike narrative, but she pointed out that it was a standard, fairly simple morality play if you are familiar with Japanese ghost stories. It was the atmosphere, especially the sound, that made it work for me.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:15 (one week ago) link
yeah, there are quite a few like it. i think i prefer Kuroneko. i need to rewatch Ghost of Yotsuya (it's on youtube). Kwaidan has similar bits too. Onibaba...
useful list here, including more modern j-horrorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnica240Wq4
― koogs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:47 (one week ago) link
the kiln aspect was interesting as well - there was a bbc4 japanese traditional arts programme on just before i saw Ugetsu for the first time and the same kilns are still in use (although not universally)
― koogs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:51 (one week ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/Madamedeposter.jpg
Madame de..., Max Ophuls, 1953Morbsies #499Sight & Sound Critics #90
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 20 April 2024 19:55 (four days ago) link
Sometimes the greatest film ever made.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 April 2024 19:57 (four days ago) link
Another cracking film.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 20 April 2024 19:57 (four days ago) link
I love Earrings... because it's a film whose editing and camera movements convey a passage of time as subtle as any novel. When I read Balzac and Trollope, the marriage between Boyer and Darrieux is how I imagine the day-to-day functionalities of a patrician 19th century marriage. The beauty of Boyer's performance is how he's perfectly willing to go along with it but with the quiet half-grins that Ophuls catches it's clear he also loves Louise enough to have given a more erotic marriage a shot if she wasn't so bent on escaping within her confines. Few films convey how possessions delineate the confines of one's own entrapment.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 April 2024 20:14 (four days ago) link