why late at night in the u.s. does ilm get all yessed out

yea exactly the sort of inside baseball I've always wondered about with this group. curious that him and Anderson both had the same vocal issues...wonder if the fog machines they used had anything to do with it?

I suspect it's more to do with the demands on the singers put on them by the instrumentalists. That is, it's far less physically taxing for a bassist or keyboardist to play every single night, but a singer needs rest, especially one singing at the top of their range for three hours a night. It seems like Squire et al were never particularly sensitive to the physical demands singers are subject to.

More to the point, Squire shit on David because he cracked on the highest note in Yes's oeuvre during one concert, but kept booking tours with 3-4 dates in a row.

i liked when he said styx were always super-tight but the yes lads were sloppier and then worried he was going to get sued

sued by the ghost of chris squire for pointing out he didn't practice enough

To be fair, the music of Styx is a lot more straightforward than the music of Yes.
I'm glad to hear he's made his peace with his time in the band.

funny he mentioned it being too loud on stage, I think Jon A. complained about the same thing, particularly the bass. can't imagine it's easy to sing when you can't really hear yourself.

funny he mentioned it being too loud on stage, I think Jon A. complained about the same thing, particularly the bass. can't imagine it's easy to sing when you can't really hear yourself.

Don't know why this would be a problem in the era of in-ear monitors. You get your own dialed-in mix right there — "onstage sound" shouldn't be an issue at all.

I remember people talking about the Yes/Styx tour at the time, apparently Yes were sloppy as fuck for the first few dates due to the fact they couldn't be arsed to rehearse properly. Plus drink problems. Styx are this super-slick Vegas/Broadway live act nowadays, probably goes down better in the sheds than Squire et al stumbling through Yours Is No Disgrace every night.

In theory, sure, but if your mix is all set in your in-ears, and then the bassist decides during the show, "Fuck it, I'm turning up," there's not a lot you can do about that, especially if the bassist uses speaker cabinets onstage. We've all been to shows where someone couldn't hear someone else properly -- with or without in-ears -- and all of those shows had lengthy soundchecks. Ginger Baker's hatred of Jack Bruce is almost entirely down to Bruce turning way up during shows -- from 1967 through to the Cream reunion in 2005. Sometimes musicians, in the heat of the moment, think turning up is a) a good and fun idea, and b) won't affect anyone else.

xp

Also think about how penetrating bass frequencies are and how far they can travel

yea wouldn't surprise me if both Jon & Benoit had to oversing to compensate and blew their vocal chords that way

that rolling stone interview series is so good, binge-read all of them and desperately want more, was not a fan of the addition of Benoit David at the time but he sounds like a great guy that did everything he could, I get Anderson not wanting to do Drama material, I guess, but I wonder why he didn't want to do Astral Traveller

just want to say that i appreciate tarfumes waiting to post this until it was late at night in the u.s.

Lol

https://www.rollingstone.com/t/king-for-a-day/

Some of that kind of stuff I remember pretty vividly from that book by the drummer for Semisonic, how the other two guys had already been in the other band, Trip Shakespeare, and were much more world weary and battle-hardened.

Always think that singing is- like guitar but more so- kind of deceptively easy to start on - everyone can do a little something! - but then really, really hard to do at a high level. Bass on the other hand, particularly electric bass, is a very logical and straightforward instrument. You still have to put in a lot of work to be at the top of the game but the practice throughput is much higher. So somebody playing a lot of fast and loud notes all over the place on the skinny neck of a Rickenbacker giving someone else a hard time, I dunno about that.

Lol

https://www.rollingstone.com/t/king-for-a-day/

― calstars, Friday, February 10, 2023 12:16 PM (yesterday)

A must-read series for anyone considering joining one of their favorite bands as a replacement.

Dennis DeYoung has weighed on in Burt Bacharach's passing. #onethread

https://youtube.com/@progessiverockstories

Have you guys heard these little yes album documentaries? Really good

It’s not late at night rn where I am but just popping in to recommend the latest YES “Ultimate Music Guide” thing from NME or Uncut - unsure. It’s an engrossing read as far as these things go. Love the ‘70s interviews.

I’m at a bar where it’s “prog night” and currently Jon Anderson doing Awaken with some Icelandic orchestra is projected on the wall, life is good

By the way LJ if you’re still here I did request Cardiacs “Flap Off You Beak” and it KILLED. I guess I found the right crowd. Weeeeird feeling

This is up in WI? I can only imagine it is several shades of weird.

Prog night sounds amazing, I wish I knew about something like that down here.

Dance on a Volcano lmao this rules

that jon anderson with todmobile concert is really something

was checking out a solo jon anderson show the other night and like, I can't imagine what fresh hell it would be to play yes with just an acoustic guitar, probably helps that he sang/co-wrote the tunes but he really does an admirable job, would see a solo jon show in a heartbeat

https://youtube.com/@progessiverockstories

I only watched the one of these he did for Duke and it was really good. Need to watch more.

oh yeah I've only watched that guys Yes videos but they are very good and are clearly a passion project, lord knows how much time it must take to research and produce them but very much picking up a dropped ball for all of us late night in the u.s.

This is up in WI? I can only imagine it is several shades of weird.

yeah it brings some strange and interesting people out. for me it's nice because I actually get to be the young guy at the bar again :) also lets me indulge my inner On Cinema Gregg Turkington, half the conversations were just "you know what other band this guy was in??"

MIRROR to the SKY (5/19/23) better not blow. that would be three in a row if so

I mean, I'm not holding out a lot of hope that this is going to break that run, but I'll be thrilled to be proven wrong. Not having "Mystery Tour" on the tracklist already makes it better than the last one.

By the way LJ if you’re still here I did request Cardiacs “Flap Off You Beak” and it KILLED. I guess I found the right crowd. Weeeeird feeling

― frogbs, Friday, 3 March 2023 01:45 (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

siiiick! gj

three songs longer than nine minutes. the title track is the longest since "endless dream" on talk. my hope is steve howe is really feeling it again

That Todmobile/Jon Andrson version of Awaken might be the best version ever

^^^this, i often watch it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dMQpNP1wGY

I love how Doug immediately cops the idea behind the chord sequence in the 'workings of man' section.

that big grin! i know the feeling pal. "wow!"

there's an obvious question i have regarding a certain other band our man could be made to hear, and it appears the answer is 'not yet', my vote is 'jitterbug'

okay it's 'dirty boy' really, obviously, ffs, lol

Everso...

new song out today. it's uh...not bad? some nice playing from Sherwood (who I suspect wrote most of this)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WSqjH6mFhk

did roger dean do that art because it looks like someone did some fake dean-inspired work

song is surprisingly not horrible but it's not good either ('find my place in the jewel collective' no)

It appears he did, yeah

All of this is very...naff.

It sounds like a Yes song put together with AI so, yeah, that album cover is probably ideal.

sometimes my favorite yes is Drama yes, and I wish they had leaned more into that era a decade ago when that was the lineup, with a ringer on vox, tho presumably even trevor horn realized that was a mistake as he re-recorded the vocals himself later

and I get that trevor horn was never going to tour the countryside singing in yes for funsies, but it might have been cool to somehow keep him on as the brian wilson and have a bruce johnston to play the county fair or whatever

anyways steve howe's yes is fine I guess, it sounds kind of like yes, I admire that they are still bothering to write new music at least

I really like the cover, I think some of Dean's newer work looks different because it doesn't have the same textured detail? I didn't like his new version of a Uriah Heep album I bought recently, it wasn't an improvement and I wonder why he changed it?

did roger dean do that art because it looks like someone did some fake dean-inspired work

song is surprisingly not horrible but it's not good either ('find my place in the jewel collective' no)

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, March 10, 2023 9:55 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i want to believe he's singing about the jeweled antler collective

Looks like someone hipped Doug to the Todmobile version of Awaken

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zVT2SNjM44