Sight and Sound 2022 Round 3: 41-60

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but its sympathies are definitely on the side of the Algerians.

― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 3 February 2023 bookmarkflaglink

This is good not bad.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:22 (one year ago) link

It's a fucking beauty is Lyndon. Lost count of how many times I've rewatched it. The part where he falls under the spell of the Chevalier is my fave segment of it.

calzino, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:22 (one year ago) link

but its sympathies are definitely on the side of the Algerians.

― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 3 February 2023 bookmarkflaglink

This is good not bad.

I was responding to rob saying the film didn't pick a side.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:27 (one year ago) link

What's your take on the scene in question?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:28 (one year ago) link

To be precise, I said "simply" pick a side, by which I meant uncomplicatedly. It would be monstrous if it sided with the colonizers, obviously, but to my memory the film absolutely depicts the moral dilemmas of resistance/revolution as well. I would need to rewatch to really discuss as I cannot recall the scene you mentioned

rob, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:31 (one year ago) link

I can't remember that particular scene but I feel it stays in an 'observational' mode for much of it.

Though I think it would make me just as happy if it went in as propaganda. But it would probably be worse for it

xp

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:33 (one year ago) link

If your reading is right then maybe it is trying to counter any charges that it would be propaganda.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:33 (one year ago) link

Wanda (Loden, 1970)

^ this is the one film in the top 100 I had never heard of before. Really nice to see it.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 February 2023 23:49 (one year ago) link

Wanda was memorable to me. I know people who hated it because it was about her passivity and ultimate mistreatment, but it was really an outlier film during its time and was kind of radical

Dan S, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 00:09 (one year ago) link

this group has some films I have always loved

Le Mépris
Fear Eats the Soul
La Dolce Vita

Dan S, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 00:24 (one year ago) link

Wanda is an interesting compare to Akerman, I think.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 00:28 (one year ago) link

Recently watched Sans Soleil, which features the cult 1970s Tokyo dance troupe Takenoko-zoku. It was a very complex film and I loved it. That moment was the highlight for me, though

Dan S, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 00:48 (one year ago) link

voting for Le Mépris in the end

Dan S, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 01:05 (one year ago) link

Wanda is so good! She's passive and child-like because she's broken in some way. I spent the movie wondering what happened in the past to make her this way.

So, I just watched Battle of Algiers and Contempt. Both good, but I loved the latter. Best Godard I've seen, I think.

Haha, xpost.

Cherish, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 01:13 (one year ago) link

I want to bump this before it falls off the list

I watched Psycho again last night, It was pretty great, but I don't think I would consider it on par with 8 1/2 or Tarkovsky's Mirror, films it shared a placement with on the S&S poll

Dan S, Friday, 10 February 2023 01:51 (one year ago) link

you're right, it's far, far better than 8½

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 February 2023 07:35 (one year ago) link

Nearly voted for Blade Runner just because I love it so much, but it's Stalker.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Friday, 10 February 2023 07:59 (one year ago) link

Psycho is great. It's also had all kinds of readings put onto it so to come out from all that work is an achievement of sorts.

I don't get 8 1/2, like at all. I enjoyed it enough when I watched a screening but did feel, for once, there was a feeling of indulgence here.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 February 2023 10:22 (one year ago) link

I like 8 1/2 fine but Psycho is a whole nother level. Several even.

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 February 2023 12:31 (one year ago) link

Raymond Durgnat's book alone is proof enough that Psycho is a cut above

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 February 2023 12:34 (one year ago) link

Yes - and also Douglas Gordon's 24 Hour Psycho

Ward Fowler, Friday, 10 February 2023 12:54 (one year ago) link

Take a message to Richard

Raymond Durgnat's book alone is proof enough that _Psycho_ is a cut above

I have to read this, pronto!

The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 February 2023 12:59 (one year ago) link

Ha, forgot about the buffer#onethread

The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 February 2023 13:00 (one year ago) link

I enjoyed introducing Barbara Loden’s Wanda @bfi #BFISouthbank last night as part of the @SightSoundmag 100 poll. Sold out screening of mostly young audiences. 90% were seeing the film for the first time ever. Amazing.

— Jason Wood (@jwoodfilm) February 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 February 2023 15:04 (one year ago) link

I am genuinely excited for the newly-baptized cinephiles who are at the height of their curiosity and voraciousness in this particular moment.

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 February 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link

There are very few moments in life as good as this. Let's remember it.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 February 2023 15:34 (one year ago) link

Oh brother!

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 10 February 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link

I've been baptised, brother, I've been baptised!

The Windows of the URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 February 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link

I'm curious to see how many votes there will be for Rashomon, Barry Lyndon, The 400 Blows, Ali: Fear Eats the Soul and La Dolce Vita in the end

Dan S, Monday, 13 February 2023 23:30 (one year ago) link

I think Vertigo (above all), as well as Rear Window, The Birds, and Rebecca are the most amazing Hitchcock films.

Psycho has a cringey reveal moment and too much mundane and dated explanation at the end for me.

North By Northwest, Notorious, To Catch a Thief, and The Trouble With Harry are all interesting and I want to see them again.

Still haven't rewatched Marnie, Torn Curtain, Topaz, or Frenzy

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 00:26 (one year ago) link

North By Northwest had that amazing moment of connection between Cary Grant and Eva Marie Saint on the train

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link

I haven't seen Rebecca in ages. Isn't it considered a little too quality-literary-adaptation compared to both Hitchcock's earlier and later work? Maybe I'm thinking of Sarris being lukewarm on it. The stuff at the end of Psycho is indeed cheesy, but there's so much that's great in the build-up.

clemenza, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 01:41 (one year ago) link

Don't worry about Sarris -- watch it again!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 01:49 (one year ago) link

I think of Rebecca as one of those perfect films, maybe not the best of all time but ones where you wouldn't want to change a thing, like City Lights, Sunset Blvd., Roman Holiday

Dan S, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 01:54 (one year ago) link

I’m fine with the last ten minutes of PSYCHO tbqh

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 03:02 (one year ago) link

The best things about the last 10 minutes of Psycho are a) the final shot, and b) Ted Knight.

clemenza, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 03:05 (one year ago) link

(The thrill of spotting him for the first time, I mean.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 03:09 (one year ago) link

Wait, what?

after the pinefox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 06:00 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 00:01 (one year ago) link

Vote SANS SOLEIL, that is all

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 00:57 (one year ago) link

I voted for something obvious but considered many others.

after the pinefox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 00:58 (one year ago) link

I really hope Stalker doesn't win this, but from the comments here it appears that it might

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 01:16 (one year ago) link

Why?

after the pinefox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 01:57 (one year ago) link

It’s hard for me to understanding everyone else’s point of view about it. What everybody else loves about Stalker is a mystery to me. I remember it as being really un-cinematic and plodding and grim, and not even all that interesting in a philosophical sense. I had similar feelings about Solaris, although not to the same extent.

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 02:10 (one year ago) link

I should probably watch them both again

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 02:11 (one year ago) link

The Sacrifice, his last film, was so much more passionate, meaningful, visually beautiful and moving to me than either of them

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 02:12 (one year ago) link

I still haven't seen The Sacrifice so I can't compare, but Stalker to me is meaningful and visually beautiful. It is the most fugue-state movie I can think of. Like the movie itself loses touch with reality.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 02:31 (one year ago) link

The best things about the last 10 minutes of Psycho are a) the final shot, and b) Ted Knight.

Wait, what?

This is pretty famous, no?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DO80wnaX0AEKHYo.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 15 February 2023 02:40 (one year ago) link

Sorry I was focused on Simon Oakland and the fly and forgot about that.

after the pinefox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 03:52 (one year ago) link

When I think of Ted Knight I think of Ted Baxter stalling all night while reporting on election returns during a blizzard.

after the pinefox (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 February 2023 03:54 (one year ago) link


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