I know it theoretically has always been an issue, but I’ve never encountered it in a vintage record, only ones from the post-2010 era.
same here and it's kind of depressing, since it doesn't feel good to be into a hobby that even the manufacturers don't really take seriously. maybe they think people aren't actually listening!! it hasn't really deterred me from getting reissues yet, since I only have maybe 3 that are wrecked by it - if it's just a little in one spot then whatever, meanwhile my copy of Tri Repetae has scraping all throughout "Overand" and as a result I just have to skip it. maybe I'll pick up a copy from Amazon and send the old one back. the way I see it, they owe me for all the dinged corners on the records I've bought from them. not to mention their anti-union stance.
that said pretty much everything I've picked up in the last year or so has been fine so maybe they are learning. shit was really bad around 2009 or so - I have some OPN and Dam-Funk records from that era which sound AWFUL. like "maybe they didn't even do a test pressing or listen to a single copy" awful. luckily they were cheap but still.
― frogbs, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link
you know who does an amazing job? Light in the Attic. I just bought this previously lost Leo Noncentelli of the Meters solo record, just flawless, high quality press, great mastering, excellent jacket quality, great booklet, every time I buy something from that company I think this is what vinyl should be
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 February 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link
yep - everything I've gotten from them has been stellar. they must've found a great plant. I love all the extras too. Great Tracks out of Japan does a tremendous job as well. in fact most Japanese vinyl I've gotten is excellent - I've picked up a number of used records from Japanese sellers (it helps to get a bunch at once to save on shipping) and even the ones listed as VG are virtually flawless. idk what it is they just seem to take better care of their media stuff.
― frogbs, Friday, 3 February 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link
weirdly, i buy (what i think is) a lot of records, and after looking at some images online i'm pretty sure i've never run into this non-fill problem
wonder if it has to do with certain manufacturers? or if certain labels have high standards, maybe it follows that certain labels have lower standards?
― the late great, Friday, 3 February 2023 19:02 (one year ago) link
or maybe i've just been lucky. i picked up a tri repetae reissue and it didn't have that issue. my copies of lp5 and chiastic slide don't skip either, though that might be down to choice of stylus and tracking weight
― the late great, Friday, 3 February 2023 19:04 (one year ago) link
I'm so nervous to sell records that I grade - I worry the buyer will think I graded it too high. I should just say they are all roof shingles
― | (Latham Green), Friday, 3 February 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link
it sounds like velcro being pulled apart - its different than your standard crackle. I don't think it's particularly visible though...my records that have it look clean.
and yea I think a lot of it comes down to luck. Discogs comments are usually a good guide, some of the records I've had it on nobody else has complained while another (the latest Orb record) has a bunch indicating the same defect mine has. and there are also records which a lot of people complain about but my copy happens to be fine. I'm guessing it's just certain batches that have the trouble. maybe very large batches.
― frogbs, Friday, 3 February 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
xp latham i think that is what the best sellers, the ones i trust and keep buying from, do when they grade records. like anything unsealed is automatically NM- whether played or not, anything that's been played is automatically VG+ or lower, anything with marks on it or anything that's from the 90s is automatically VG. so then i trust them enough to keep buying records from them over and over, because i know if anything i'm going to pleasantly surprised (and not unpleasantly surprised)
― the late great, Friday, 3 February 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, 3 February 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link
xp otm
this was mentioned recently on another thread, but a lot of modern vinyl issues are also related to the post-pressing stages, like drying and packing. The backlogs mean that sometimes corners get cut
― sleeve, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link
and yes, "when in doubt undergrade" is a time honored seller strategy right up there with "never sell to France or Italy"
― sleeve, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link
and yes, "when in doubt undergrade" is a time honored seller strategy right up there with "never sell to France or Italy"ha, when i was selling and shipping tracked via ebay 10-15 years ago the one time something never made it through the post (supposedly...) it was to France.
― city worker, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:42 (one year ago) link
xxp yea the non-fill issue seems completely avoidable, that's what makes it so irritating
― frogbs, Friday, 3 February 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
never had any problems with France. Italy I had a big package go missing last summer, but I also had one go missing to China that I posted the same day.
― even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Friday, 3 February 2023 22:05 (one year ago) link
Recently moved my phone from Android to IOS. Hit the Discogs app. I might be being a bit thick but I can’t see anyway to sell items from it.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 4 February 2023 06:31 (one year ago) link
Thanks, will check it out. Shame Tidal isn’t integrated, but can’t have everything.
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 4 February 2023 08:24 (one year ago) link
I live in France, I hope I never want to buy anything from your inventory
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Saturday, 4 February 2023 09:06 (one year ago) link
not yr fault buddy! lol. I actually don't sell online at all, just at shows and sometimes in a private FB group.
― sleeve, Saturday, 4 February 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link
re: iOS app. I assume that's to stop Apple taking their standard 30% cut of any transactions that happen in-app.
oh good point. they could still fix the listing experience though.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 4 February 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link
my favorite part about discogs is the 8 overlapping video ads and banners i now seem to get on a daily basis
― budo jeru, Saturday, 11 February 2023 04:00 (one year ago) link
use an ad blocker, I had no idea those were even there
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 11 February 2023 16:08 (one year ago) link
I think they only show if you're not logged in?
― even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Saturday, 11 February 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link
Yes, you only get ads if you are not logged in
― Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 11 February 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
This Royal Mail strike must be really messing up a lot of international orders. I didn't realize how I often I ordered from the UK (as opposed to Europe) until I started getting messages from sellers about being unable to send my packages and offering refunds. I hope for both selfish and unselfish reasons that this mess doesn't drag on too long
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 11 February 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link
It seems like international orders are getting going again — I got an email from Cherry Red about something I pre-ordered that was supposed to have been released on January 27:
Thank you for your e-mail. We are very sorry for the delay caused by the Royal Mail cyber-attack.However, they have now started to dispatch international orders, so it should hopefully be with you within the month:International Incident Bulletin from Royal MailWe at Cherry Red have really appreciated your patience and understanding in this matter.Independent companies such as us would not survive without loyal customers such as you.
However, they have now started to dispatch international orders, so it should hopefully be with you within the month:
International Incident Bulletin from Royal Mail
We at Cherry Red have really appreciated your patience and understanding in this matter.
Independent companies such as us would not survive without loyal customers such as you.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 11 February 2023 22:45 (one year ago) link
it's not the strike that was blocking international orders - there was a cyberattack on Royal Mail that did that (as unperson's message says). there have been delays to orders because of the strikes since last May, but that was affecting all orders, not just international. it is a bit of a nightmare and has stopped me from listing any more items for sale because I don't need the hassle from buyers. I just got 2 international orders over the last 24 hours so good to hear I might actually be able to send them out although fuck knows when they will arrive.
― even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Sunday, 12 February 2023 10:06 (one year ago) link
Did you ever wonder what the first release added to Discogs’ database was? https://www.discogs.com/release/1-The-Persuader-Stockholm
― The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 04:11 (one year ago) link
xps huh I wonder if that's why my recent order from Juno was actually shipped from Germany. That hasn't ever happened before, but I guess it's possible they just shipped directly from a warehouse or something.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 04:53 (one year ago) link
Some of these have gotten weirdly expensive. I also had no idea there were like three Krautrock comps in this series
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 13:05 (one year ago) link
just had to refund an order that got sent just as the cyberattack happened. hopefully I can claim it back off Royal Mail.
― even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link
Did you ever wonder what the first release added to Discogs’ database was?
https://www.discogs.com/release/1-The-Persuader-Stockholm
― The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Monday, February 13, 2023 10:11 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
awesome! lol
― budo jeru, Thursday, 16 February 2023 01:54 (one year ago) link
hahaha
oimels Dec 10, 2018One down, 9,999,99 releases to go. It shouldn't take long should it?!
― sleeve, Thursday, 16 February 2023 04:29 (one year ago) link
Uline’s history with far right politics. Nearly everything I get from Discogs is packaged in one of their products.
― birdistheword, Friday, 7 April 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
yep they suck
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Friday, 7 April 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link
I ratted out a seller whom I suspected of fraud and Discogs shut down their accounts within a day. Feels kinda good. Hot tip, scammers: if you’re going to make fake listings maybe don’t post identical listings for a rare item at an unbelievably low price from multiple accounts.
― The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 9 April 2023 09:49 (one year ago) link
FWIW, get yr mailers from https://www.4bubble.com
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 14 April 2023 10:47 (one year ago) link
I just want the boxes amazon uses - the ones with inner flaps to hold the records tight and protuberant edges to eliminate corner bumps. The only equivalent ones I can find are like $3.50 each.
― The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 15 April 2023 05:16 (one year ago) link
That 4bubble link seems to be switched off
― Mark G, Saturday, 15 April 2023 09:26 (one year ago) link
i live in california and buy mine from Royal Mailers- https://www.royalmailers.com/Corrugated-Mailers/
― one time gaffled 'em up (one time), Saturday, 15 April 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link
really not thrilled with this seemingly-recent trend of people rolling into reissue comments with "doesn't sound as good as my ($1000+) original"
this post inspired by a particularly snotty and pretentious review of the mono Piper At The Gates Of Dawn reissue
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2023 21:28 (one year ago) link
oh and this one too
"Sounds pretty bloody good to me even though it's not AAA. As do all the Grundman remasters. That is until you hear a mint OG UK press. And good luck getting one cheap. The original just has much more 3D and dynamics."
yeah, fuck you too, dude
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2023 21:33 (one year ago) link
the other (1-star!!!) review I mentioned earlier was from a dude who was like "this doesn't sound anything like my 80's stereo pressing" rmde
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Saturday, 15 April 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link
Some Discogs commenters seem even worse than Yelpers.
― dicbo=v2-ubswizzb&hrt (stevie), Sunday, 16 April 2023 10:59 (one year ago) link
yeah nowadays all of the reviews are by wanna be audiophiles who think they know how things are supposed to sound or something, I want to drain their bank accounts
― brimstead, Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
you couldn't pay me to read the reviews people leave on discogs
― budo jeru, Sunday, 16 April 2023 17:21 (one year ago) link
eh I find 'em useful sometimes. the reality is that a lot of modern pressings are just not good. I think it's been steadily getting better since say 2008 or so, when I think a lot of new vinyl was sold without much consideration for people actually listening to it. but bad pressings still get out and the reviewers on discogs will let you know what to avoid.
― frogbs, Sunday, 16 April 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
agreed, I just hate wading through the snobby stuff, it's still very useful though
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Sunday, 16 April 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link
Thanks to discogs reviews, I learned that someone else had an off-center pressing of the pressed off-center record I'd just gotten in the mail, so I used it for support when getting my money back from Verve Forecast.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 16 April 2023 22:37 (one year ago) link
Weird question: I just got the latest Lande Hekt lp in the mail today, new and sealed directly from Zia Records in Phoenix. It had the "Violet Marble" hype sticker on the shrink, but I opened it up and it had vinyl of a different variant—red/blue split—inside, which normally comes in a sleeve with different art. So I've got the sleeve and hype sticker from one version, the vinyl from another. This is obviously a packaging error at the plant, but how do I add it to my discogs collection? Does this warrant a new entry? I can't imagine it only happened once, so maybe it does. Anyone have experience with a situation anything like this?
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 05:12 (one year ago) link