Oh that patti piece Tears are streaming rn
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Monday, 30 January 2023 22:34 (one year ago) link
goddammit patti <3 ;_;
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 January 2023 22:52 (one year ago) link
yeah, that Patti piece is a tearjerker. When she's good, she's good! wow.
― tylerw, Monday, 30 January 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link
really moving, wow
In his final hours, watching him sleep, I travelled backward in time. We were in the apartment, and he cut my hair, and some pieces stuck out this way and that, so he called me Winghead. In the years to follow, simply Wing. Even when we got older, always Wing. And he, the boy who never grew up, aloft the Omega, a golden filament in the vibrant violet light.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 January 2023 23:02 (one year ago) link
"Winghead" is in "Little Johnny Jewel", how about that?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 07:30 (one year ago) link
That interview / performance .
― Mark G, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 07:47 (one year ago) link
nice piece by dean wareham:https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/01/31/encounters-with-tom-verlaine/
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:09 (one year ago) link
I think that's a picture of Lloyd in Couterpunch article. It's a nice read though.
― brownie, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:50 (one year ago) link
His friend Patti Smith said somewhere that Verlaine “plays lead guitar with angular inverted passion like a thousand bluebirds screaming” — but that says more about her than it does about him.
lol ouch
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:52 (one year ago) link
Yes and no
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 13:05 (one year ago) link
Time is a crashing thing That’s what the old book said One day you’ll be a saintI’d better make my bed I know the ink is dry I know they do not lie I’d better make my bid
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:07 (one year ago) link
Lol. Love Dean W.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link
Yeah, an educational essay (and his own memoir, written well before the trend began, remains a favorite).
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:27 (one year ago) link
fun memoir. good insight into Stan Demeski's humor, which prepared me for my oft-repeated anecdote where the night I met him he simply walked up to me, shook my hand and said "were are my royalties, motherfucker."
I also enjoy reading Damon Krakowski these days, but can't say Dean's book didn't color my view.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link
Dean's memoir is a blast. "We were dogs but we weren't pigs" (On Luna refusing to allow the lighting guy to scout for attractive women to invite backstage)
― Alba, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link
I remember one incident he writes about related to that about his "rock and roll slip" that was really well-described.
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link
good insight into Stan Demeski's humor, which prepared me for my oft-repeated anecdote where the night I met him he simply walked up to me, shook my hand and said "were are my royalties, motherfucker."
I met Stan last year and he was very nice, but immediately turned to my friend and growled "Take that fuckin Mets hat off!"
― tylerw, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link
Sometimes Verlaine's guitar did sound something like that, and even if it hadn't DW's music police comment says more about him than her.
― dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link
hearing police, commentary police, something objective, no doubt.
― dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
well, she did use "angular"
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link
True.
― dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link
haha that's one of those words that makes me stop reading a review. unless patti smith says it or something.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, January 30, 2023 3:58 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link
Depending on the angle of the dangle.
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link
"angular" in 1974 tho: critical first-use klaxon bid?
― mark s, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link
That's what I was gonna say, is there an earlier documented use?
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link
Gonna go add that to the Patti Smith wiki. "First known use of 'angular' to describe Tom Verlaine's guitar playing."
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link
also first known use of "bluebirds" tbf
― mark s, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:53 (one year ago) link
here's the whole thing, fwiw:http://www.thewonder.co.uk/rckscene.htm
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link
"languid" and "angular" within a couple sentences of each other.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link
Burn witch burn xxxp No! Stephen Stills! "Bluebird" singular, because it's an absolute!---ly killer track, grunting aside on that other take.
― dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link
hmm did not want to give the impression i was taking down patti, if that's how it read.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
No prob with your observations, but I'm maybe gonna sic Tar on DW when she gets back.
― dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link
i think i will see Tar after i am aloft the omega.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
Don't see it 'til you can see it for free, seriously! Check thread for details (Spoiler: we of ILE were not too thrilled.)
― dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link
did no one use angular on the velvets
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link
I think of the Velvets as more of a square wave.
Regardless, I always thought there should be more geometry in music criticism.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link
there is room for both the pattis and deans in this thriving, very "now" lineage of guitar-based rock music
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link
Beefheart maybe?
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link
Lester Bangs, Creem, March 1971.
In Lick My Decals Off, Baby (Straight Rs-6420) this vision is extended, and even though the sonic textures are sometimes even more complex and angular than on Trout Mask, the lyrics have taken an added universality, many of them stepping back a stride from the kaleidoscopic image-clusters of last year’s songs.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link
Busted! Did Verlaine ever play keyboards or anything else other than guitar in the studio or shows?
― dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:33 (one year ago) link
He plays the keys on the first two Television albums, various other solo records. Don't think he ever played live though.
here's my hot take — "angular" is a fine way to describe certain bands/artists.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link
I can imagine "angular" being used in jazz reviews before 1971 tbh.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link
tyler otm. I don't mind angular either, it's useful to describe a certain kind of playing that doesn't sound like other kinds of playing: melodic, bluesy, beboppy aka "that Chinese music" etc.
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link
I've made a career using angular.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link
i don't think I'd call the VU "angular" though
― tylerw, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link
No, nor I.
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
Wonder if anyone ever submitted a rejected jbr Christmas tune named "Angular Bells."
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:54 (one year ago) link
Heh, not on this borad, maybe, but elsewhere it exists.
― And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link
Did Verlaine ever play keyboards or anything else other than guitar in the studio or shows?
― dow, T
He always played the keyboards. His 1984 album Cover is a synth-pop record.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:57 (one year ago) link
He had a good story about working out the interlocking guitar parts of "Venus" on the piano, I think he said it didn't make sense until he moved over to the keyboard.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link