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maybe this has already been posted but i hadn't seen it before...

sorry, i can’t help recommending this italian interview tonite – sorry if you already know ithttps://t.co/K3xnItSFd5

— ms2 (@marco_ms2) January 30, 2023

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:55 (one year ago) link

p.s. the second half of that clip is a live marquee moon and is an absolute treat for people who wanna watch what tom's hands are doing

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link

also the wire are making alan licht's 2006 interview with him available for free for the next month...

Tom Verlaine (13 December 1949–28 January 2023)

Tom Verlaine died on 28 January aged 73. Read Alan Licht’s 2006 cover story on the Television guitarist and singer free in our online library:https://t.co/tZTGj33b4c

— The Wire Magazine (@thewiremagazine) January 30, 2023

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link

Oh that patti piece
Tears are streaming rn

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Monday, 30 January 2023 22:34 (one year ago) link

goddammit patti <3 ;_;

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 January 2023 22:52 (one year ago) link

yeah, that Patti piece is a tearjerker. When she's good, she's good! wow.

tylerw, Monday, 30 January 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link

really moving, wow

In his final hours, watching him sleep, I travelled backward in time. We were in the apartment, and he cut my hair, and some pieces stuck out this way and that, so he called me Winghead. In the years to follow, simply Wing. Even when we got older, always Wing. And he, the boy who never grew up, aloft the Omega, a golden filament in the vibrant violet light.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 January 2023 23:02 (one year ago) link

"Winghead" is in "Little Johnny Jewel", how about that?

Mark G, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 07:30 (one year ago) link

That interview / performance .

Mark G, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 07:47 (one year ago) link

nice piece by dean wareham:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/01/31/encounters-with-tom-verlaine/

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:09 (one year ago) link

I think that's a picture of Lloyd in Couterpunch article. It's a nice read though.

brownie, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:50 (one year ago) link

His friend Patti Smith said somewhere that Verlaine “plays lead guitar with angular inverted passion like a thousand bluebirds screaming” — but that says more about her than it does about him.

lol ouch

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:52 (one year ago) link

Yes and no

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 13:05 (one year ago) link

Time is a crashing thing
That’s what the old book said
One day you’ll be a saint
I’d better make my bed
I know the ink is dry
I know they do not lie
I’d better make my bid

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:07 (one year ago) link

Lol. Love Dean W.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link

Yeah, an educational essay (and his own memoir, written well before the trend began, remains a favorite).

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:27 (one year ago) link

fun memoir. good insight into Stan Demeski's humor, which prepared me for my oft-repeated anecdote where the night I met him he simply walked up to me, shook my hand and said "were are my royalties, motherfucker."

I also enjoy reading Damon Krakowski these days, but can't say Dean's book didn't color my view.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link

Dean's memoir is a blast. "We were dogs but we weren't pigs" (On Luna refusing to allow the lighting guy to scout for attractive women to invite backstage)

Alba, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link

I remember one incident he writes about related to that about his "rock and roll slip" that was really well-described.

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link

good insight into Stan Demeski's humor, which prepared me for my oft-repeated anecdote where the night I met him he simply walked up to me, shook my hand and said "were are my royalties, motherfucker."

I met Stan last year and he was very nice, but immediately turned to my friend and growled "Take that fuckin Mets hat off!"

tylerw, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

Sometimes Verlaine's guitar did sound something like that, and even if it hadn't DW's music police comment says more about him than her.

dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link

hearing police, commentary police, something objective, no doubt.

dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link

well, she did use "angular"

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link

True.

dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link

haha that's one of those words that makes me stop reading a review. unless patti smith says it or something.

― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, January 30, 2023 3:58 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link

Depending on the angle of the dangle.

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link

"angular" in 1974 tho: critical first-use klaxon bid?

mark s, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link

That's what I was gonna say, is there an earlier documented use?

Gonna go add that to the Patti Smith wiki. "First known use of 'angular' to describe Tom Verlaine's guitar playing."

also first known use of "bluebirds" tbf

mark s, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:53 (one year ago) link

here's the whole thing, fwiw:
http://www.thewonder.co.uk/rckscene.htm

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link

"languid" and "angular" within a couple sentences of each other.

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link

Burn witch burn
xxxp No! Stephen Stills! "Bluebird" singular, because it's an absolute!---ly killer track, grunting aside on that other take.

dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link

hmm did not want to give the impression i was taking down patti, if that's how it read.

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link

No prob with your observations, but I'm maybe gonna sic Tar on DW when she gets back.

dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:17 (one year ago) link

i think i will see Tar after i am aloft the omega.

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

Don't see it 'til you can see it for free, seriously! Check thread for details (Spoiler: we of ILE were not too thrilled.)

dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link

did no one use angular on the velvets

xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link

I think of the Velvets as more of a square wave.

Regardless, I always thought there should be more geometry in music criticism.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

there is room for both the pattis and deans in this thriving, very "now" lineage of guitar-based rock music

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link

did no one use angular on the velvets

Beefheart maybe?

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link

Lester Bangs, Creem, March 1971.

In Lick My Decals Off, Baby (Straight Rs-6420) this vision is extended, and even though the sonic textures are sometimes even more complex and angular than on Trout Mask, the lyrics have taken an added universality, many of them stepping back a stride from the kaleidoscopic image-clusters of last year’s songs.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link

Busted!
Did Verlaine ever play keyboards or anything else other than guitar in the studio or shows?

dow, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:33 (one year ago) link

He plays the keys on the first two Television albums, various other solo records. Don't think he ever played live though.

here's my hot take — "angular" is a fine way to describe certain bands/artists.

tylerw, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link

I can imagine "angular" being used in jazz reviews before 1971 tbh.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link

tyler otm. I don't mind angular either, it's useful to describe a certain kind of playing that doesn't sound like other kinds of playing: melodic, bluesy, beboppy aka "that Chinese music" etc.

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link

I've made a career using angular.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link

i don't think I'd call the VU "angular" though

tylerw, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link

No, nor I.

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link

Wonder if anyone ever submitted a rejected jbr Christmas tune named "Angular Bells."

And Your Borad Can Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 19:54 (one year ago) link


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