Sepultura vs. Pantera

this album from 2006 was great!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/69/Sepultura_-_Dante_XXI.jpg

the last album - the clockwork orange concept album one - sucked though. i was so surprised that i like that dante album. i hadn't listened to sepultura in years. i never listened to pantera. maybe if they had been around when i was a kid i would have liked them. who knows. i listened to krokus and grim reaper when i was a kid and they were pretty bad. i've never actually heard the fabled pantera glam metal albums. maybe i'd like those.

i saw em live a few years ago. pretty spiritless show (Sepultura that is). I bet the Max days were better. even "Beneath the REmains" was meh live.

the only phil anselmo-related product i ever owned was a viking crown album i bought at a cd store cuz i was bored and it was, like, two bucks. it was truly horrible. it was supposed to be a lo-fi basement bm kinda thing and as we all know even when these kinds of albums are "bad" or amateurish they can often be quite entertaining. this was not one of those albums.

if i have anything good to say about the guy (and i don't really have anything bad to say about the guy) its that he was an early champion of eyehategod (and actually black metal in this country, to be fair) and it was his idea to split the immortal "sister fucker" into two parts. which was a great idea.

no one doubt's Phil's commitment to the underground. it's just that he seems to go out of his way to demonstrate it to everyone. 'LOOK EVERYBODY SEE...I HAD A MIND OVER FOUR SHIRT ON IN THIS VIDEO!'

apparently they do a lot of soundtrack work in brazil - sepultura - and they have great studio resources now. including the use of strings, etc. which is one reason why that dante album sounds so awesome. it's a complete studio creation. i LOVE the way that album sounds.

i'll be honest, i haven't heard an album past Arise all the way through. i'm including Chaos A.D. I was a total thrashhead so i guess i ignored that period.

Sepultura for me easily, the only memorable Pantera song I ever heard was "Planet Caravan"

^THIS.

Sepultura > latter era Sepultura > Soulfly > Pantera

I saw the Chaos AD tour and I saw Pantera open for Black Sabbath. Sepultura was amazing. Pantera was a joke. Except for Dimebag. He really did shred.

And I've seen Soulfly twice and while I don't consider myself a fan, they were excellent live both times. My favorite song of theirs is the one Sean Lennon co-wrote.

I bought a "Best of Sepultura" CD to listen to in the car coz of this thread, but it's been remastered and squashed to shit so it sounds like ass. AVOID THIS CD. I couldn't listen to it & pitched it out of the car window. The intro to "Troops of Doom" is fucking awesome, by the by.

Listening to Chaos AD just now has made me regret my vote. What a powerful, gutfelt album.

I couldn't listen to it & pitched it out of the car window.

RIP guy who flipped his vehicle attempting to avoid this projectile

Listening to Chaos AD just now has made me regret my vote. What a powerful, gutfelt album.

― chap, Tuesday, August 4, 2009 9:50 AM (4 years ago)

otm

new Sepultura is FANTASTIC. their current drummer is tremendous.

I am enjoying it so far. they seem to be thriving.

mega lame that Gloria Cavalera took potshots at Derrick the other day. I'm not linking to it because what she said was dumb and moronic but basically she got mad that Derrick Green had the audacity to answer a question he was asked in an interview asking why everybody keeps asking if Max is going to reunite with the band. You have to figure by now, almost 25 years into his tenure with the band, he has to be mega sick of this fucking question, and yet he diplomatically kept all of the Cavaleras out of his mouth and said the fans that wanted this were just living in the past and that it's not where the band is anymore and Gloria blows up on FB saying "fuck you Derrick, you always gotta bring us up for attention".

I haven't liked even half of the Derrick era, no, but i've liked 3 or 4 of the albums. new fun seems pretty ambitious, isn't just trying to play chugga chugga over tribal drums. also Kisser does some incredible guitar work on this album.