Star Trek: Picard

New trailer today but this news sucks:

https://gizmodo.com/dead-space-2023-remake-motive-ea-1850044901

Most of the comments so far are about her Borg Queen role, and she was pretty good as that.

https://gizmodo.com/obituary-annie-wersching-timeless-actor-45-years-1850046454

Ah, thanks -- small glitch there!

Anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw0pg11OzCQ

Xp it's kind of a heart stopper since the first two people I googled were Alice Krige and Susanna Thompson.

As for the trailer... I have a mental checklist of ~4 plot devices that I think Trek needs to embargo for a good long while and maybe it's a good sign that the trailer only seems to use one of them.

https://www.92ny.org/event/star-trek-picard

Online tickets are for the Talk only. They do not include the screening. Pre-recorded talk will be available on Feb 17 at 6 pm ET.
Join the iconic cast members of Paramount+’s Star Trek: Picard — Patrick Stewart, Michael Dorn, Jonathan Frakes and Gates McFadden — for a special advance screening of the premiere episode of the third and final season of their acclaimed series.
The final season of Picard is the concluding chapter of Jean-Luc Picard’s journey and features the return of his Star Trek: The Next Generation crewmates as they come together in a thrilling conclusion 35 years after The Next Generation first premiered. Following the screening, hear Stewart, Dorn, Frakes, and McFadden talk about revisiting their The Next Generation characters years later, why their stories have proven so durable and creatively fruitful, what Star Trek has meant to them throughout their careers, stories from behind the scenes, and much more.

oh no

Who's acclaiming this show?

We're here aren't we?

I thought we were all hate-watching it!

You'd be surprised!

I like Picard! The only bit that annoyed me was that one ep with whatserface in his mind and the whole mad/dead mum story, that was a bit meh.

I hope we get at least three more Soongs

I’ll accept Lore as one of them

I stand corrected!

I'm on the other side of the fence -- no more secret Soongs please.

i heard there was a secret lore
that spiner played and then leee abhorred
cause you don't really care for more soongs, do you

lol

Lots of promising talk around the new season from those that have seen several episodes.

Cautiously optimistic but I'm taking "on course to be the greatest season of Star Trek ever" with a pinch of salt

So we're back! Liked it well enough as a good setup episode, couple of things I'm still scratching my chin over. Was bemused that the opening credits were now the closing credits and now in a totally different style, I was kinda liking how the last two seasons' credits went. But as a tribute to the original show, a treat, and clearly all kinds of easter eggs stuffed in there.

mr veg said the opening title was like wrath of khan, same font etc which was interesting

plus lots of stuff packed in that opening scene

all v interesting hope it goes somewhere good

Is it dropping all in one hit or weekly?

weekly i thought

Weekly as per usual, yeah.

Oh and if you’re missing Alison Pill she’s in that new _Hello Tomorrow!_ series.

TIME TO WATCH PICARD s3 e1

feels a bit zippier than s1 and s2

(not a high bar to clear)

space has too many bars (they're always poorly lit and nearly empty)

acting is when you phrase the clauses like william shatner

Space is also poorly lit and nearly empty, fwiw

This was fine as kind of dumb action stuff but several things are bugging me about this qua Star Trek.

Starfleet and the people in it are so inept in Picard and Disco -- I know the added drama of TRUST NO ONE and CONSPIRACY OMG, threaded through with TNG-era Starfleet's reputation for bureaucracy, but the number of times these series require circumventing and/or suborning Starfleet officers, all of which happens pathetically easily ("Captain Shaw won't let us go save Beverley, oh I know, let's wait till he falls asleep before we change course, great plan!"), is so trite and lazy. It's the reason why I think Lower Decks/SNW are easily the best of the current crop of shows, because they show Starfleet as actually good at their jobs.
Crusherson speaking with a French Brit accent is supposed to make us think he's JL's, but that's the least interesting/bothersome part of this story. I'm annoyed of characterizing Bev as being this cornered gung ho mom -- can't she be her own character with her own motivations? Subordinating her to her caretaking role is disappointing (but, unfortunately, also very Trek) -- and then she also kills two people? Yeah sure self-defense and MUST PROTECT MY SON whatever, but that also felt like lazy storytelling.
Raffi's handler == Worf, surely? He couldn't resist calling her a warrior.
Mark: How do you feel about them getting the ugly painting out of the way in episode 1?

Of course, this is just one episode, but the fact that it features so many of bugbears (with more yet to come) kind of makes me wary.

let this one marinate for a bit and . . . it sucks

ancient combadges have galaxy-wide reception, and happily this one just happened to be nearby. couldn't possibly purchase/hire a spaceship -- too dangerous! -- so instead we had to half-assedly suborn a starfleet flagship that apparently lacked a transporter or tractor beam when we stole its shuttle. raffi is always terrible, but never moreso than when standing in a dark corner of a target zone and yelling into her tricorder that she's a starfleet spy. obviously her 'handler' is worf but why does she have an anonymous handler who shits on her for being an ex-junkie instead of a supportive superior officer? these dudes went seven seasons with a fluorescently lit bridge and a faux-wooden railing and now every fucking ship thinks it's in a submarine battle? i use dark mode too, but come on. titan captain, who presumably saw his family flayed alive at wolf 359 or something, was just absurd (while also being right). no matter how corrupt we are meant to assume starfleet is (gene rod rolling in his grave, no doubt), there are no captains anywhere with that attitude. and of course we have a callback to captain rachel garrett of the enterprise-c with absolutely no explanation why she's been painted red.

oh did you notice how that one planet is named after the showrunner? how precious!

this shit is like someone threw the memory-alpha source code at a wall and filmed it

wait i missed that (hidden text) detail ftb snoozing or tweeting, now i have to rewatch lol (oh no)

I get that they’re trying to set up all kinds of wild plot devices in one episode, but this was a bit much

I didn’t quite follow the “don’t trust starfleet!” warning leading to Picard deciding the best course of action would be to trick a starfleet captain into taking him close enough to the coordinates. He and Riker were going to be part of the celebration and they didn’t want to mysteriously not show up for that so… yeah, I missed something

jean-luc in his picardotage

you’d think after the last two seasons he’d know at least one person not in starfleet who has a ship, idk

rewatching to check out the terrible painting i apparently missed last night

the music at the start is making me want a version of this show scripted by dennis potter

t'pau yang kipperbang

ok lol i have now checked out the very extremely terrible painting

data wd never

lol at JLP getting his AI to explain things to him he already knows and then getting cross bcz he already knows them -- scene needs more bing-style hostility from the computer

we know this character is bad and stupid bcz he just delivered the dumbest reasons to dislike bebop that anyone in history has so far formulated (including on ilx) and also used the phrase "loosey-goosey"

i hate the way these characters have each been turned into a kind glazed ham you the viewer have to repeat-appreciate at tiresome gustatory length and also anyone in the story who doesn't immediately revere them in the same way is marked as despicable or else gets punched

they're idiots and their plan sucks! their confidence in their immense knowledge is misplaced!

I can’t even hate watch this, it upsets me too much

It's like a man child playing with his still-boxed TNG action figures, all mint.

Also did we ever hear Riker playing or listening to bebop? I only remember trad jazz.

I seem to reveal that an earlier draft of "All Good Things" where the old TNG crew steal the Enterprise to go on Picard's mission but the writers dropped it for being a dopey idea, too bad Q is dead now or else he could've sent someone in time to persuade this show's writers from making the same mistake.

Every time Frakes reappears in a "hey the gangs all here" reunion type ep he always has this "hey wow this is great!" shit eating grin that I find really offputting. I dunno if he's had work or something? But his eyebrows are weird now.

I thought I'd enjoyed this episode til you bunch of cynical fucks pooed all over it, so thanks for that everyone :)

I don't think I'm being cynical! I just want Trek that's better thought out!

i wd term my attitude "quizzical hostility"

Look tbf some of those issues I agree with. Why can't he just commisssion a non-Federation ship? If its so important they dont involve starfleet why is Seven the first place he went? (well, we know why - so she can be in the show again).

That Titan captain was an utter cunt, but hey Ive worked with people like that so it didn't ring false to me.

I am one of like, five people worldwide who really liked the 12 Monkeys tv show so I liked that actor’s cameo

I'm one of the other five people worldwide.

more and more of us are here, on ilx. watching Picard!

I bailed before the end of the 1st season. Can I skip straight to this one?