https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jan/02/robert-forster-venus-by-television-is-the-most-perfect-song-of-all-time
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:31 (one year ago) link
marquee moon was one of those instant classics that simply sounded fantastic on first listen (+put a lot of the contemporary stuff i was into at the time in its proper place) and still greets like an old friend when i hear it these days. maybe adventure even more.
― "i'm grateful." (Austin), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:31 (one year ago) link
I love the Adventure stuff on Live At the Old Waldorf, such a great document of the band live
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link
yes, absolutely
― sleeve, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:37 (one year ago) link
the early demo stuff collected on the Poor Circulation boot CD is incredible as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tMSNmKV1sk
― sleeve, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link
I’m not sure what to look for on FB, but Lee Rosenbloom has an RIP.
― The Big O RLY (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link
First television song I ever heard was that amazing clip of them doing 'Foxhole' on the OGWT, that made me want to buy a guitar like nothing else i'd ever seen. Adventure was always precious to me because of that tune
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link
Jonathan Paley as well, in a Verlaine group on FB
― Mule, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link
Xp
50 minutes ago. Cites a “close family friend” as source.(xp)
― The Big O RLY (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link
Man, this sucks. Pretty much everything this guy did after the first Television album was almost an afterthought, certainly overlooked, but what more did he have to prove? It's a blessing and a curse to start your career with an album that helps change the course of music. RIP.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link
So weird the way you clue into death. I saw someone had put up a "Marquee Moon"-related post on FB. Then a second one, but I still didn't make the connection. Then a Television thread at the top of ILM and it was clear.
― clemenza, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/28/arts/music/tom-verlaine-influential-guitarist-and-songwriter-dies-at-73.html
― nostormo, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link
RIP
Love his first solo album. Can you imagine being covered by Bowie? Only a few got that privilege.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link
RIP ;_;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyQBLQgVblY
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link
Went looking for the solo version and had no idea Television had done this back in 1975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=032bsV9SeWg
― Piedie Gimbel, Saturday, 28 January 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link
saw him at a WMFU record fair once. didn't expect him to be so tall! John Lurie too - like standing next to a skyscraper
― Paul, Saturday, 28 January 2023 22:06 (one year ago) link
xp yeah there are some incredible early versions of that, another one from CBGB '75 as well
― sleeve, Saturday, 28 January 2023 22:08 (one year ago) link
always found this one incredibly moving, going to listen to it now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhoSxmqO710Tom Verlaine - Song
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 28 January 2023 22:11 (one year ago) link
Went by the book stalls outside Strand yesterday thinking I’d see you as usual, have a smoke, talk about rare poetry finds for a couple of hours, downtown NYC racing by our slow meditations on music, writing - gonna miss you Tom. TV Rest In Peace.— Thurston Moore (@nowjazznow) January 28, 2023
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 28 January 2023 22:27 (one year ago) link
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:39 (forty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
His vamping and obnoxious eyelash flutters in that performance rule so hard
God damn this is so sad, is there anything on earth that sounds like the way he played that jazzmaster
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 28 January 2023 22:29 (one year ago) link
There was a post somewhere I think on this board that got stuck in my head forever about how that closing stretch of The Dream's Dream is basically the prettiest guitar playing ever, and yeah
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 28 January 2023 22:35 (one year ago) link
Can’t believe itI mean I totally can but this does not at all feel good rnMM and old Waldorf obv, but hear me now, Flash Light is also a masterpiece, I will never ever back down about this. Solo show w band at Bowery Ballroom in 06 a lifetime high for me Wahhh There’s almost no one left standing of my old favorites now. Crocus B, Robyn H and Richard T long life to you.
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 28 January 2023 22:41 (one year ago) link
Am I tripping or is the 1:35 mark of elevation the inspo for rhcp “Californication”
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Saturday, 28 January 2023 22:43 (one year ago) link
If that wasn't me it should have been. It has a real uplifting quality - rivalled only by a Popol Vuh song used in Herzog's "Heart of Glass".
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 28 January 2023 22:48 (one year ago) link
In some ways the dreams dream, especially the Waldorf version, is my favorite television recording
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 28 January 2023 22:55 (one year ago) link
everything this guy did after the first Television album was almost an afterthought, certainly overlooked
I'd love to think that his solo albums might get a little of the attention they deserved all along:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noJ2H19Qh8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rx03SpAh_U
Of course, he was a great guitar player, but his songs and singing could have been visionary even if he had never picked one up. His music was all of a piece, never showing off, all expressing the view from inside his head.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 28 January 2023 23:08 (one year ago) link
man, rip. i wonder if that 4th tv album will ever emerge in one form or another.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 28 January 2023 23:22 (one year ago) link
rip. marquee moon was one of those things i had to read about long before i got to hear it, and it was as advertised.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 28 January 2023 23:29 (one year ago) link
Sleater-Kinney on FB:
While there are many guitar players whom we admire, there are very few whose work informed our approach to playing and writing. Tom Verlaine was one of those guitarists. It was not only his serpentine style—jagged yet shimmering, capable of story-like melodies—but also how he played in conversation with his bandmate and fellow guitarist, Richard Lloyd. The intertwining of notes, completing each other’s sentences, toying with consonance and dissonance, beautifully colliding then breaking away; telling us so much without a single word. While Marquee Moon was seminal, Adventure burrowed deeper. I can’t think of a song that informed the entirety of our guitar playing on The Hot Rock than “Days.” Thank you, Tom Verlaine, for guiding us. May you rest in peace. “Days, be more than all we have. “ 🎸📺💔
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 28 January 2023 23:41 (one year ago) link
ooh that's nice, thanks, my fave song from Adventure
― sleeve, Saturday, 28 January 2023 23:42 (one year ago) link
Influenced my guitar style like nobody else did. That's not saying very much, but it's good to see other more well known guitarists saying that too.
― Mark G, Saturday, 28 January 2023 23:45 (one year ago) link
More Richard Lloyd than Verlaine though, that one.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 28 January 2023 23:47 (one year ago) link
That S-K eulogy is super eloquent thank you
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 28 January 2023 23:55 (one year ago) link
Also- thanking thus sang freud for the ticket hookup for one of my handful of TV shows
And Verlaine adapted to the synth pop era. I love this ballad, downloaded by me during the Napster peak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN5qO2Gsyw0
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 January 2023 23:57 (one year ago) link
That’s a great one. Do you like the Flash Light album, lord Soto?
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 28 January 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link
I do! "A Town Called Walker"! "The Funniest Thing"!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 January 2023 23:59 (one year ago) link
have been watching richard lloyd's guitar lessons on youtube recently, very analytical in a mad scientist kind of way, and also somewhat perplexing to an oaf like me, but a really fascinating approach and i'd imagine quite a complementary one to verlaine who i can't help but think of as just plucking inspiration out of thin air like he's drawing a breath and breathing it out (this is likely a complete misapprehension on my part, would like to read any interviews with him on that side of things if anyone has any good links?)
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:02 (one year ago) link
that was a very enjoyable evening, j not j -- it was a pleasure seeing a tv show with you.
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:03 (one year ago) link
I sleep lightOn these shores tonightI live light on these shores
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:03 (one year ago) link
I hope we praise how good a lyric writer he was: his guitar was lyrical, his lyrics were pointillist.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:04 (one year ago) link
Apologies for the spam, but the one episode of my podcast I was really thrilled about was getting Matt Sweeney of Zwan/Chavez/rock guy Zelig on and we talked Marquee Moon, he's super interesting to listen to on the album
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3s7qRa1B8ZDuSVgqGOx8db?si=Amtm66THSPumiwIC4lYgTQ&utm_source=copy-link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:07 (one year ago) link
cool, thanks ums!
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:12 (one year ago) link
stolen from thurston's insta:
https://i.ibb.co/9GwCBkR/Screenshot-2023-01-29-001119.jpg
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:13 (one year ago) link
They’re just like us!
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:16 (one year ago) link
I never saw them there. I guess I must have gone at the wrong time.
― The Big O RLY (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:20 (one year ago) link
for a long time the first thing i'd play when picking up a guitar was the riff from “friction.” such a weird, cranky, chromatic, dissonant thing, but so simple, an open string melody that anyone could’ve stumbled upon but only verlaine had the nerve to put into a song
rip big man
― sault bae (voodoo chili), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:29 (one year ago) link
haha I always play that too! The funniest one though is that one guitar line in 'prove it' which is basically descending down the major scale and back up again. it sounds brilliant but was a real oh duh moment when I figured it out
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 29 January 2023 00:36 (one year ago) link