actually all of the bass drum sounds were replaced by farts
― I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 January 2023 03:36 (one year ago) link
i don't really get the point of a remaster of any Meshuggah album like, post-Chaosphere, the shit was fairly optimal the first time around on the albums after that. not a fan of the re-recorded Nothing with the 8-strings even.
― I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 January 2023 03:38 (one year ago) link
Wow, if you aren't afraid of the upcoming Amberian Dawn album of ABBA covers, check out the new Dark Sarah album while we wait.
https://open.spotify.com/album/4WilNXjE7dhYxMzNXXwBLg?si=6fc498a0a343496f
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:43 (one year ago) link
Also, that Amberian Dawn album came out two months ago. I apparently thought the third single, which came out the same day, was another song released in advance of the record.
It's really good, unless the idea of a metal tribute to ABBA sounds inherently terrible to you, in which case it's exactly that terrible.
Also, I had forgotten that Dark Sarah was formed by Heidi Parviainen after her time as the singer for Amberian Dawn, so the similarity isn't coincidental at all.
Amberian ABBA: https://open.spotify.com/album/5mzhto5AZTFY6RDpiFtjXt
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link
This new Ahab record is fantastic.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2023 16:29 (one year ago) link
I am digging it too, even if dude's clean vocals remind me of Mr Mackey in the South Park episode where he got high and started singing
― I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 February 2023 03:45 (one year ago) link
hey all it's new SANGUISUGABOGG time, make sure you have your SANGUISUGABOGG record ready to spin and that all valuables are safely tucked away in your house as you flail around to SANGUISUGABOGG boy i just love saying SANGUISUGABOGG
also three songs in and this rules.
― I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 February 2023 05:25 (one year ago) link
however fans are likely to cry sellout because the SNARE ISN'T PINGY this time.
― sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 February 2023 05:28 (one year ago) link
well it is a LITTLE
ok the ping is back
― sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 February 2023 05:34 (one year ago) link
one-woman black metal project Brouillard from France is back with an album called (guess) : https://transcendance-bm.bandcamp.com/album/br0uillard-brouillard
― StanM, Friday, 3 February 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link
hahahaha! i love that concept
I think I got her last Brouillard
― sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 February 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link
new Spirit Possession March 31
https://spiritpossession.bandcamp.com/
― gman59, Friday, 3 February 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link
excited for new Sanguisugabogg, didn't realize it was coming out so soon. I've taken to callin them "The Bogg" in the tradition of Steve Coogan as Tommy Saxondale calling Jethro Tull "The Tull."
― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Friday, 3 February 2023 20:46 (one year ago) link
i excuse and even enjoy violent imagery in a lot of music, perhaps particularly in death and grind. i do object to artists targeting a single oppressed identity with their violent lyrics (and indeed we call this NSBM when folks do it w/r/t race), and i do really wonder about sanguisugabogg's vocalist and his previous band that only wrote violently misogynistic rape anthems
― here 1st (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I knew nothing about Sanguisugabogg before seeing some hype this past week and saw that when digging through their Metal Archives page. That band had some really wtf lyrics and artwork.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
i did not know that about Sanguisugabogg vocalist, but that's definitely fucked up. not that misogyny is new to metal but there is definitely a higher degree of wtf to making rape/abuse/violence against women the actual target of your lyrics - one reason I refuse to listen to anything pornogrind or Waco Jesus-y.
thanks for sharing the information roxy.
― sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link
for real. i think it is reasonable to draw the line at violent misogyny being the entire theme of your themed band
― here 1st (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link
absolutely
― sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link
after awhile you'd hope artists would grow past bigotry or misogyny in lyrics and, if they didn't, listeners wouldn't reward it by failing to call it out, idk. there's such a wealth of music out there w/o that kind of lazy bullshit, or those kinds of shit worldviews. it's very easy to not write evil lyrics imo (as someone who doesn't write lyrics even i can recognize that.)
― omar little, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link
If you want to write those kinds of lyrics you should start a power metal band and really enunciate the fuck out of every word. Stop hiding behind growls and gurgles.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link
with a lot of these bands, they aren't 'just fantasies' either, they're a reflection of internalized toxicity (or worse, the Jef Whitehead incidents). i think roxy posted once that it permeates into the crowds as well at some of the shows of pornogrind and similar bands and it's not surprising.
hell, Don Decker of Anal Blast used to come into #metal on DALnet and he was every bit the caveman he portrayed himself as on disc.
― sanguisug boggy bogg (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link
at a minimum, people who make light of sexual violence do not take sexual violence seriously. that much at least should be obvious. it often goes beyond that. it isn't as simple as saying pornogrind guys are rapists, or whatever, but it isn't hard to imagine how they might respond to incidents of sexual assault in their communities (or even bands), and i can assure you those are happening
― here 1st (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:34 (one year ago) link
On another note, while more noise rock than metal proper, the new Oozing Would is hitting all the right spots for me today. Absolutely killer production on this one, it just sounds so good.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 21:18 (one year ago) link
lol "Oozing Wound", although I wouldn't mind hearing these guys take on that Alice In Chains song
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link
into the cut againsame old pus it was back thennnn
― waiting on a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 21:22 (one year ago) link
lol
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 February 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link
On another note, while more noise rock than metal proper, the new Oozing Wound is hitting all the right spots for me today. Absolutely killer production on this one, it just sounds so good.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, February 7, 2023 bookmarkflaglink
I like this. On the “this more noise rock than metal” front, I got into a band called Still/Form recently thanks to their opinion on an EOY list (can’t remember now which it was) They really nail a sound that reminds me of noises bands circa 93-94. Had me thinking of obscure bands lost to history like Johnboy or Milkmine
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 02:11 (one year ago) link
digging the latest Memoriam but if you weren't into them previously i don't think you'll like them still. everyone seems to be lukewarm on em, but I'm fine w/ their Bolt Thrower-inspired torch carrying, it's not as good as the predecessor, and this one has a lot of additional melodic hooks in it that you wouldn't have heard on BT.
tl;dr just call me a poser
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 02:22 (one year ago) link
i love that oozing wound. it feels like noise rock is kind of having an extended moment rn
― here 1st (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 02:23 (one year ago) link
the clips I heard of it sounded very promising. gotta get around to acquiring it and giving a proper listen.
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 02:27 (one year ago) link
xxpost re: the Memoriam, it's an extremely so bar that it's barely above the ground, but at least happy to hear a death metal band writing about war from the anti-war perspective
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 02:30 (one year ago) link
*low bar jfc
I like the Memoriam — not as much as the ones before, as you say, but enough that I've tried to at least formulate some thoughts on it for BA. Maybe in a week or two.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 03:12 (one year ago) link
#NowPlaying Tidal Wave'The Lord Knows'(2023, @music_ripple)Swedish stoner fare, emphasizing the bluesy classic rock stuff, with a vocalist who approximates Big Business' Jared Warren's loud as fuck bellowing. It's not possible to play this loud enough, but it's fun to try! pic.twitter.com/QWSkZdTU7e— Brian O'Neill (@NYC__Native) February 7, 2023
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 03:59 (one year ago) link
Glad to see that post, I've really been digging that Tidal Wave record. Sometimes I hesitate to post about the more stoner leaning stuff here since there don't seem to be too many folks into that left around.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 05:36 (one year ago) link
I don't post on this thread too often but I'm always interested to hear about new stoner/doom stuff, I enjoyed this Crypt Witch record from last year despite it being very derivative! https://cryptwitch.bandcamp.com/album/ritual-herbs
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 09:20 (one year ago) link
I’m new to this thread (after taking a 30-year sabbatical from metal up until last year) and I like stonery stuff, fwiw.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link
Spending more time with this Oozing Wound album today and it’s awesome
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link
local band Bodybox are opening for Soulfly. i assumed this was just locally, but no...ENTIRE run of the tour!
they have a 9 minute EP and a 4 minute demo.
what the hell are they going to play? lol
there's no album due out anytime soon so I'm assuming set will be filled of songs they just wrote and covers.
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 February 2023 01:57 (one year ago) link
Soulfly isn't even in my top 500 but holy hell they're great live.
They haven't even gotten to the Nailbomb cover yet
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 February 2023 02:57 (one year ago) link
stoked on the first new kvist output since the 90s (from upcoming peaceville comp) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG_kffRy-QE
as a sidenote: peaceville needs to fix their website
― here 1st (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 16:25 (one year ago) link
digging the 2 Ulthar albums that just came out. I learned about Mastery through this board so thought there might be more hype here. But seems like just me. Anyhow both sounding great.
― gman59, Friday, 17 February 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link
i was curious about those! awesome
saw Deceased last night. awesome as always. really tight band live and yet also really goofy.
but they never get much turnout.
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 February 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link
Should have those two Ulthars waiting for me at home, though reading this Baandcamp interview with them is going to shadow that a little. Damn, that's rough. Hoping for the best.
Ulthar went into the studio ready to kick ass, armed with as much new music as they’d released up to that point combined. But when Lermo went to track his vocal parts, something seemed off.“I had warmed up my voice a bunch, and I started singing, and Justin and Steve were in the control room, and they were like, ‘You don’t sound right,’” Lermo remembers. “And I was like, ‘Really?’ And I listened back, and I was like, ‘Yeah, my voice does sound weird.’ Eventually, I just worked more and more, trying to get into the right range and got it to sound right.”Lermo also noticed some pain in his throat while he was recording vocals: “It wasn’t a bad pain. It was just like a scratchy something-or-other.” When it didn’t go away for over a month, he started to get concerned. When he felt a lump on his neck, he got it checked out. A couple short months after getting through the challenging Anthronomicon/Helionomicon sessions, his biopsy came back positive. Lermo had throat cancer.“I was treated with chemotherapy and radiation for two and a half months. I ended up in the hospital for eight days. I lost the ability to eat and drink and talk,” Lermo says, stressing that the voice coming through the Zoom call isn’t what his voice normally sounds like. “We’ve had a couple of tour offers that I just had to straight-up turn down, even though it’s a couple of months in the future because I can’t predict when I’m gonna be able to sing again.”He might never be able to sing again, and if he does, there’s no guarantee he’ll sound the way he used to: “I’ve talked to doctors about it and stuff, and it’s kind of a very, very niche question to be like, ‘I sing for a death metal band. When will my ability to do death growls come back?’ Nobody has an answer for that.”
“I had warmed up my voice a bunch, and I started singing, and Justin and Steve were in the control room, and they were like, ‘You don’t sound right,’” Lermo remembers. “And I was like, ‘Really?’ And I listened back, and I was like, ‘Yeah, my voice does sound weird.’ Eventually, I just worked more and more, trying to get into the right range and got it to sound right.”
Lermo also noticed some pain in his throat while he was recording vocals: “It wasn’t a bad pain. It was just like a scratchy something-or-other.” When it didn’t go away for over a month, he started to get concerned. When he felt a lump on his neck, he got it checked out. A couple short months after getting through the challenging Anthronomicon/Helionomicon sessions, his biopsy came back positive. Lermo had throat cancer.
“I was treated with chemotherapy and radiation for two and a half months. I ended up in the hospital for eight days. I lost the ability to eat and drink and talk,” Lermo says, stressing that the voice coming through the Zoom call isn’t what his voice normally sounds like. “We’ve had a couple of tour offers that I just had to straight-up turn down, even though it’s a couple of months in the future because I can’t predict when I’m gonna be able to sing again.”
He might never be able to sing again, and if he does, there’s no guarantee he’ll sound the way he used to: “I’ve talked to doctors about it and stuff, and it’s kind of a very, very niche question to be like, ‘I sing for a death metal band. When will my ability to do death growls come back?’ Nobody has an answer for that.”
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 February 2023 21:34 (one year ago) link
new Hellripper is fantastic. not that I don't love a lot of it, but blackened speed metal is one of those subgenres that's so full of boring clones. I like that they manage to be inspired in their writing.
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 February 2023 00:17 (one year ago) link
plus were part of an anti-Nazi comp in 2018
there's a ton of trad fist pumpy heavy metal in there as well without overwhelming the black heart of the sound and that's my language.
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 February 2023 00:19 (one year ago) link
shit, this thing could be an EOY candidate. too early to say that, it's only Feb, and only one spin, but this is one of the better in its field I've heard in years
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 February 2023 00:57 (one year ago) link
Waiting til my copy shows up later this week, good to read your raves though.
Listened to the more traditional of the two Ulthar albums this weekend, really damn good. Going to tackle the other one soon.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 February 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link
*bill includes Obituary and Jesus Piece i mean
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 08:27 (three months ago) link
The Heavy Metal Journal (linked above) completed last EP with top 10. "This recurd blew me wee face off!"
― Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 16 December 2023 13:38 (three months ago) link
the two albums krallice released this year put the rest of the metal world to shame
― ivy., Saturday, 16 December 2023 16:08 (three months ago) link
Stuff I have heard and liked*
Horrendous – Ontological MysteriumTanith – VoyageDanava – Nothing But NothingWytch Hazel – IV: SacramentShadows – Out for BloodMoonlight Sorcery – Horned Lord of the Thorned CastleTyrann – BesattBehold the Arctopus – Interstellar OvertroveGridlink – Coronet JupiterTomb Mold – The Enduring SpiritMeurtrières – Ronde de NuitThe Night Eternal – FataleVoidCeremony – Threads of UnknowingHellripper – Warlocks Grim & Withered HagsSmoulder – Violent Creed of VengeanceAir Raid – Fatal EncounterMegaton Sword – Might & Power
*caveat: my listening dropped off sharply around August
― jmm, Saturday, 16 December 2023 16:39 (three months ago) link
late catching up to some stuff from this year, but the Crypta and Hellripper records both rule
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 11:31 (three months ago) link
yeah co-sign the Hellripper, one of my earliest favs this year
― Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 14:38 (three months ago) link
Yeah, me too; I conducted a short email interview with the main dude for Bandcamp Daily. And since they only used a few words of it, I'll paste the whole thing here!
How would you describe the evolution of the music from the last album to this one? What are you better at (as a writer, as a player) in 2023 than you were in 2020?I think that the overall sound is perhaps more diverse on this album. In order to keep things interesting for myself, I wanted to branch out and bring some new elements into the sound from bands that typically wouldn't influence Hellripper's music. The only rule I set for myself was that the album would stay true to the black/speed/thrash style at the core, and so the goal was to incorporate these new things in a way that would compliment that style while being careful not to dilute the end product.
I think that I am better as both a writer and as a player, as well as a producer. With the many live shows we've played over the past couple of years and the amount of time I spent writing the tracks on this new album, I feel like I just naturally improved as a musician. But, I feel like I have improved as a songwriter and perhaps more importantly, I have grown more confident as a songwriter. As I mentioned previously, I wanted to bring in some different influences, and I don't think I would have been able to do some of the things that I've done here on the last album. It all comes from experience I guess.
I think the album is the best sounding Hellripper album to date also, and again that comes from experience in recording/mixing my own music over the years. Like with the songwriting, I wanted to try some new things production-wise on this record, and a lot of these ideas came from albums outside the black/speed metal genre. The process involved a lot of trial and error and there were some things that just didn't work out, but it was a really fun process for me.
Your lyrics are a mix of history, pre-Christian religion and anti-Christianity, but you've avoided drifting into bonehead "cultural nationalism" disguised as headbanger misanthropy - what advice do you have for other metalheads, to help them avoid that pitfall themselves?Well, first of all, I'm not a bonehead, so I guess that helps!
From having conversations with my non-Scottish friends, I've gathered that what you describe may be the case in other countries, but this is not the case in Scotland, and Scotland may be an exception in this matter. People may want independence for example and enjoy the culture, but in general it has no connotation to right wing views - in fact it's usually the contrary.
I don't know what advice I would give to other metalheads other than to do research and know what you're reading about/listening to. Don't fall into the trap of "National Myths" - where history is twisted or reappropriated to make a point that fits a personal opinion.
You play almost everything yourself on the records, but you have musicians you use for shows. Why not use them in the studio? Is it a question of geography/logistics, or something else?I just prefer the process of working alone mostly. The convenience, cost, and ability to change things myself at any point also play a part in that! I guess geography would be a factor also!
I am constantly changing things throughout the whole process and replacing/removing songs at all times. With about one month or so to go until I had to submit the album for mastering and to the label, I realised that one of the tracks just didn't fit and I wasn't 100% happy with it. So I made the decision to remove the track (which was almost fully recorded and mixed) from the album, and work on another half-written track instead. I was able to do that because everything is done at home by myself. That just wouldn't have happened if I had to go through the process of contacting other people, getting them to learn the track and hiring a studio for them to record it, and I would have been left with an album that I wasn't completely satisfied with.
It's a hobby and my passion, so I just really enjoy being able to write or record something whenever I want to with little thought for anything else.
Not a question, an observation: Good for you, using real bagpipes and not a keyboard on the title track!Thank you! I wish I could have played them myself, but I'm just no good unfortunately (or fortunately for my neighbours)! Antonio did a great job on the recording and I think they fit with the track nicely.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 15:17 (three months ago) link
new Vemod and Darkspace early next year (finally! x2)
https://shop.season-of-mist.com/darkspace-dark-space-ii-2024-cd-digisleeve-digitalhttps://shop.season-of-mist.com/vemod-the-deepening-cd-digipak
― StanM, Thursday, 21 December 2023 15:56 (three months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBSHIR_5kVs
― StanM, Thursday, 21 December 2023 15:57 (three months ago) link
!!
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 December 2023 15:59 (three months ago) link
the Darkspace album is one 47 minute track apparently, they played it at the Prophecy Festival - first impressions: some people will say it's all the same/boring but I think there's definitely clear different parts & progression: youtube watch?v=5XFJkDFvyRM
― StanM, Friday, 22 December 2023 09:54 (three months ago) link
^ don't want to spoiler too much so I didn't embed it
― StanM, Friday, 22 December 2023 09:55 (three months ago) link
Baring Teeth are a Dallas, TX based trio. Their latest album is a slab of atonal avant-metal that still manages to have memorable songs. Recommended for fans of Imperial Triumphant:
https://i-voidhangerrecords.bandcamp.com/album/the-path-narrows
― o. nate, Friday, 22 December 2023 17:41 (three months ago) link
Vemod sounds promising too, don't know why it took them 11 years since Venter På Stormene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLh6yNFMcE8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnvMxclmUYQ
― StanM, Thursday, 28 December 2023 16:49 (three months ago) link