U.S. Politics January 2023: Kevin McCarthy's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Life

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does that just mean Goldwater stan?

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link

it's been around since the Bush adminstration to distinguish his assholes from previous assholes

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link

fascism certainly thrives in the US, as to Rob’s point above.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

and frankly, it has for a long time, and it’s been out in the open, but Trump allowed it to blossom and spread in ways previously unimaginable.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link

pale ol' conservative

nashwan, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link

does that just mean Goldwater stan?

― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, January 24, 2023 2:22 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

somewhat, but more a Robert Taft stan

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link

i think table's 'brain detergent' and 'soul rot' metaphors are very apt. there is a lot of pressure in this very inhumane world we've built to become inhuman. gop crazy talk .. like the beliefs are sort of beside the point, the point is that you identify yourself with this group that is at the avant garde of self-destruction. such a vast sea of bullshit we find ourselves in that most people would rather try to turn into reptiles than face any of it for what it is.

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link

that is, what used to be Idaho-based, ZOG-believing gun nuts (a la Ruby Ridge) and violent white supremacist terrorists (a la McVeigh) became mainstreamed in ways that were unimaginable when these former fashies were doing their thing in the 90s

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link

thanks map for the cosign. I also think that the reality of being so exhausted by having to survive under US capitalism makes people loathe to deal with the insanity going on around them… and in some ways, that’s the point

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:36 (one year ago) link

there's still plenty of lip service paid to 'election security' but now some of these nutjobs have moved on to 'democracy is inherently flawed anyway'

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link

They don't say ...

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link

you can even see it in silk, from diamond and silk. so like in 2015 she was apparently a registered democrat and the duo's first online videos were pro black lives matter. then they pivoted to endorsing trump, speaking at his rallies, etc. for a while they had a streaming show through fox news and were regulars on the network. but then, in 2020, they started embracing covid conspiracy theories, causing fox to drop them. the most recent statements from silk are about how she believes her sister died from "vaccine shedding" and that this is part of a deliberate effort by the deep state to cull the population. really intense paranoia.

― treeship., Tuesday, January 24, 2023 12:43 PM (forty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this whole thing is a really good example of how online clout and social media has poisoned so many people's brains. you hear stories of people getting surgeries just to conform to some sort of popular streamer look so why wouldn't you change your personality and political views as well. given how much we know the algorithms boost conservatives it really feels like you can get massive engagement without being insightful, funny, or interesting, so long as you kiss the ring. for example I'm pretty sure the fucking Dilbert guy doesn't turn into a hardcore chud without Twitter. I mean you can tell just watching these people. They never have anything original to say. they just repeat catchphrases and conspiracies. if you try to connect the dots you wind up sounding like Alex Jones and quite frankly none of them are that creative.

frogbs, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

i think table's 'brain detergent' and 'soul rot' metaphors are very apt. there is a lot of pressure in this very inhumane world we've built to become inhuman. gop crazy talk .. like the beliefs are sort of beside the point, the point is that you identify yourself with this group that is at the avant garde of self-destruction. such a vast sea of bullshit we find ourselves in that most people would rather try to turn into reptiles than face any of it for what it is.

― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, January 24, 2023 1:34 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I still think a lot about the "Kanye. Elon. Trump." tweet. not in the sense of "here are three very famous and very insane conservatives" but rather by how much money and power they have, and therefore how much freedom from consequence they are. and knowing there's a whole generation of conservatives who look at these people and think, "I want to become that". they're role models.

frogbs, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link

then we wonder why films like Triangle of Sadness and Tár, whatever their merits, keep getting made

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

I wonder if Pence ratted on himself just to get back in the news

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link

michael pence, dreading having to tell mother

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link

An obvious but maybe easy to overlook factor in the ongoing parade of outright lunatics is that there is relatively a LOT of money on the right to fund all of these people. If your racist ranting loses you a sinecure at one of the more upscale think tanks, there's always some other insane billionaire or multi-millionaire with a boutique foundation of their own and some personal right-wing obsession — immigration, school vouchers, abortion, etc — who will snap you up. Same with the expanding right-wing mediaverse, where you can bounce from Fox to Breitbart to NewsMax to whatever. It's not that the left doesn't have its own rich people, but being crazy or radical on the left doesn't attract the same kind of funding. I've been thinking about this a lot as my state increasingly embraces the DeVos vision of dismantling public education — an objectively unpopular cause, based on every survey you can find, and one that is only alive because of some billionaires pumping money into it for decades until they could capture enough GOP party elites.

something I think about a lot is how real news and actual scientific articles are often paywalled while right-wing psycho news is always free. it's wild how all these people who insist they're free thinkers who won't be manipulated are getting 100% of their talking points from billionaires directly funding people like Charlie Kirk and Candice Owens. there's some real persuasive value to the idea that pissing people off only means you're getting close to the truth. it's real childbrained logic..."Why are you mad at me? I just spilled juice on the floor. It was an accident. You shouldn't be mad. Is it that you HATE ME?"

frogbs, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link

xp there's also the self-funded lunatics like Mike Lindell

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link

This is why killing the FCC's Fairness Doctrine and allowing much greater consolidation and control over mass media were top priorities for the hard right when Reagan was elected president. Those were a huge stumbling block on the road to leveraging wealth into conservative political dominance.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link

Mike Pence leaked the story so he can be cool.

"I steal docs too! Love me!"

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link

crudely drawn "TOP SECRETS!" on an old PeeChee folder

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link

money and the politics funded by it are cause and effect

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link

btw I wanna point out the XBox story was claiming that having a "power saving" mode was a way of indoctrinating children into "climate conscious politics". they also talked about the fucking M&Ms (not the M&Ms who fuck), saying Mars was taking them away for being "polarizing", even though they were the motherfuckers who were whining about them in the first place! (also, it's obvious they're gonna be 'brought back' in a Super Bowl commercial, who the fuck is actually fooled by this)

frogbs, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link

FDR was the most hated man in the USA (among the wealthy) for a good reason. Dismantling the New Deal has been their most cherished dream since 1933. They're still only about halfway there, but the super rich are very encouraged by their progress so far.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link

xpost I was straight-up indoctrinated by the crying indian commercials as a child... and to this day, I throw litter into trash cans! So the threat is real

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

Anti-littering indoctrination is the Road to Serfdom.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link

The thing about the Fairness Doctrine is it did not apply to cable, satellite, or internet, anything that requires a purchase. It was mostly radio impacted.

Which doesn't mean that it didn't have a seismic impact, as conservative talk radio was transformative. But Fox News wouldn't have been impacted. It's just that the thirst for it may not have been as large without the conservative radio boom of the 90s.

Nowadays I almost think reintroducing it would have little impact as people get their information from the internet and the damage is largely done

Might even hurt us more. Imagine if booking Fauci on a radio show required the radio to give airtime to anti-vax idiots.

We live in Hell

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link

FDR and the New Deal saved capitalism. These right wing billionaires do not know what they are doing.

treeship., Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

They never have.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:33 (one year ago) link

FDR and the New Deal saved capitalism. These right wing billionaires do not know what they are doing.

― treeship., Tuesday, January 24, 2023 8:31 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's the dialectic between the two that keeps capitalism alive and thriving. they may not know what they're doing but larger forces know that the chaos is needed. otherwise stuff like this might finally start to get some pushback:

In confidential memo, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen celebrated unemployment as a “worker-discipline device” https://t.co/kesjDiTwVJ by @Schwarz

— The Intercept (@theintercept) January 24, 2023

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:37 (one year ago) link

worker
discipline
device

...

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

btw I wanna point out the XBox story was claiming that having a "power saving" mode was a way of indoctrinating children into "climate conscious politics"


Having sky-high electricity bills to own the libs.

Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

Would be wonderful to see a semiotics course taught by a right-winger

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link

the one thing Conservatives truly despise is conservation

(Teddy Roosevelt excepted, obv.)

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:02 (one year ago) link

I won a conservation essay contest when I was in 6th grade and I was confused because my left-wing parents had not given me good associations with the word conservative.

did u come home crying

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link

Hell no they gave me a little trophy, I was a happy lil dude. (I still have the trophy!)

it's heavily frowned on to throw away the conservation trophy

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link

i won the 5th grade spelling bee, the words were pathetically easy and I didn't miss any, and everybody accused me of cheating, because my mother was there, and they accused her of mouthing the words to me.

i think my response was 'if u think i needed my mom to spell those words that says a lot about u'

then someone probably hit me because i was a weak little shit

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link

my mother was totally mouthing the letters to me though, that's a her thing

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link

I was straight-up indoctrinated by the crying indian commercials as a child

Me too. I also gave a hoot, used interjection!s, thought of legislation as an anthropomorphized scroll, and hankered for a hunk of cheese.

My ill-fated 1979 attempt to "buy the world a Coke," however, ran into challenges related to my $2 allowance.

is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link

the one thing Conservatives truly despise is conservation

(Teddy Roosevelt excepted, obv.)

― Andy the Grasshopper,

Nixon in his cynicism too.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link

I was straight-up indoctrinated by the crying indian commercials as a child

always makes me cry when Italians pretending to be Native Americans weep

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 21:40 (one year ago) link

Also don't forget that Keep America Beautiful was and is a packaging/soda trade consortium designed to put all the burden of recycling/reusing on the consumer, so they can happily just continue to mint fresh plastic pellets for the next 500 years, unmolested

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link

welp, looks like Diamond died of heart disease caused by chronic high blood pressure

https://apnews.com/article/health-donald-trump-covid-heart-disease-02a4169cefd96576e76e49789ea1aa2e

mh, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:12 (one year ago) link

^in on the lie

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:13 (one year ago) link

of course, health problems that aren’t covid are just a lack of personal responsibility to make healthy choices, according to a lot of D&S’s peers, so there’s no way they’d want that public

mh, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 00:16 (one year ago) link

Biden gave away so much in the fiscal cliff deal in 2012 he was sidelined as White House negotiator. Zients took control and presided over $1 trillion in sequestration cuts.
This isn't the best team headed into the debt limit showdown.https://t.co/JFxnm4KdfC

— David Dayen (@ddayen) January 23, 2023

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 01:21 (one year ago) link

Zientz is Biden's new Chief of Staff. He was Biden's Covid chief for a bit

A horrific choice. Epically worse than Ron Klain. Zients is responsible along with Walensky for the horrific covid policies that led to mass death and long term disability. He is a investment banker who was not qualified for that job and not qualified for this one. https://t.co/bUyXZtLxQV

— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) January 22, 2023

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 01:25 (one year ago) link


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