Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

yeah, i suppose if you live for yourself and yourself alone, feeling no charity or solidarity toward your fellow human beings, that logic would make sense. i guess that, specifically, is what fucks me up about it.

Ok Jesus Christ

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/peninsula/deadly-shootings-half-moon-bay/3137085/?amp=1

Seven people were shot and killed at two separate scenes in Half Moon Bay Monday afternoon, according to the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office.

Four victims were found dead at about 2:22 p.m. along the 12700 block of Cabrillo Highway, the sheriff's office said. Another victim was transported to Stanford Medical Center with life-threatening injuries.

Shortly after that discovery, three more victims were found dead at a separate scene in the area, according to the sheriff's office.

The suspect, 67-year-old Half Moon Bay resident Zhao Chunli, was taken into custody at about 4:40 p.m. after he was found in his vehicle in the parking lot of the Half Moon Bay substation, the sheriff's office said. He was taken into custody without incident and a weapon was found in his car.

another senior citizen?

yeah certainly weird to have two older asian guys shooting anyone in CA. I did read that this is a demographic that may have started arming themselves in the past few years at a higher rate due to anti-AAPI sentiment; whenever you start having more guns around, shit like this starts happening. Video of the arrest of this guy is pretty intense.

anyway more details on the Monterey Park shooter coming out (isolated, long time angry weirdo) and the Half Moon bay shooting turning out to be some kind of workplace dispute, I think the age and demographics being shared by these shooters is simply a coincidence.

As AKM points out, the gun ownership may have a correlation - but yeah, other than that they don't seem to have much connection on the face of it.

Oh wait.. as YOU pointed out!

Bigger picture, the prospect of septuagenarian mass shooters seems unsurprising given how many angry old guys with guns there are out there.

wanna feel old dylan klebold would be 42 today

This is not a realm in which I want more diversity and inclusion

certainly not. but in the way we now have people who have survived multiple mass shootings we now have an adult population who has lived their entire lives with this bullshit

The mass shooting is such a well established trope at this point. It’s in the air for people to turn to when they are feeling alienated and aggrieved.

much of american culture tells people the answer to their problems is to arm themselves, sadly

Including people on this message board!

Beep’s high school just switched to clear backpacks for everyone because they were finding so many guns in random searches. A few weeks ago two students (one in her grade) were arrested for capital murder. Another about a week ago was trying to shoot someone outside the school. Last year the school was in lockdown because two guys were firing guns out in the street and those bullets were hitting the school with one even flying through a window into a populated classroom. In my sons middle school they find mostly knives but there have been a few guns. I’ll never get used to this shit.

Holy shit, what a nightmare:(

can you share where that is? i'm sorry to hear of it, i have difficulty imagining the resulting stress on everyone.

Little Rock

wow. stay safe and be well. i am not used to midwestern or southern mores and i am currently visiting family in missouri. it's kind of shocking to me really. not in a good way.

“Welcome to Missouri, where our mores are less!”

I kind of assumed this was happening to a degree in every high in the US (except the private ones) so now I’m kind of extra worried.
But yeah I remember my mum visiting and we had just seen ‘Black Swan’. Walking to the car a man stepped out of his strip mall office casually holding a rifle of some kind. I thought my poor mum was going to buckle at the knees. Definitely not something she sees in her day to day.

one thing i hate about it is that it takes every ounce of self-restraint to avoid pointing at them or saying "look at that dipshit with a gun, what a fucking asshole" or eyerolling or any other number of reactions. because the last thing you want to do is make a man with an assault rifle feel like he's under assault. so instead, most of the time, they float through these situations with everyone just going about their daily business. it's like a bad dream where something is way off but everything else seems to stay the same.

Exactly! Oh we were super polite while thinking ‘You tiny dick asshole piece of shit’

Meanwhile they’re standing there at the ATM whatever, thinking “the citizens are calm today, in my protection. But I am constantly scanning the surroundings as a potential war zone and am ready for any tactical threat”

fucking weirdos!

And you know they think in military jargon - ‘I’m fully prepared to neutralize the enemy. ‘

Nah you’re ready you’re itching to kill someone or something. Let’s get it straight.

this is definitely not happening in nyc schools

or at least not anywhere near the level you're describing

braggin 2023

sad lol

MSU ALERT: There have been shots fired near Berkey Hall on the East Lansing campus. Please secure-in-place immediately. Police are active on scene. More information to follow. pic.twitter.com/xa4KlwXJWN

— MSU Police and Public Safety (@msupolice) February 14, 2023

This is happening less than a half mile from my house, I walk by the building where it supposedly started all the time. There are so so many sirens right now.

Fucking hell I hope none of my students are dead

omg joygoat. i can't even imagine. i'm so sorry (and angry) that you're in the middle of this right now.

really hoping everybody is ok. fuck.

Sending good thoughts to you and everyone there, joygoat

Our neighbors' daughter is sheltering in place in their dorm basement.

Shit’s crazy, no real confirmed updates yet, helicopters overhead, all sorts of crazy rumors of shots fired or suspects in places a mile apart at the same time, suspect still at large, all kinds of good stuff. Public schools cancelled, all university stuff stops for 48 hours and cops won’t let anyone onto campus.

Everyone I know is just up texting each other or responding to freaked out people texting them and debating if you should keep scrolling or go to bed and how best to explain the day off to our 2nd graders.

It’s fucked up because this is going to be one of those defining before and after days for a whole lot of people.

Listening to the scanner and it just sounds like chaos and confusion

Also just because I’m going to watch a news conference on local nbc affiliate WILX

so still no apprehension of suspects?

what a nightmare, stay safe stay sane

now 3 confirmed fatalities :(

- shooter killed himself
- 5 in critical condition in hospital

https://twitter.com/msupolice

Wishing peace to joygoat and trying not to worry about members of MSU families I know who haven't recently posted on social media.

No doubt that some MSU students are survivors of the 2021 Oxford HS shooting.

Months after that shooting, a kid in my middle schooler's lunch period shouted that he was going to "shoot up the building" after another student wouldn't let him cut in line.

Yesterday afternoon, the middle school principal sent an email to parents alerting us to a gun-sound simulator app that kids have been using in the hallways.

A kid brought a loaded handgun to the middle school near our house last week, the same one my son will be attending soon. Fortunately nothing happened, but jesus christ it's really starting to feel a case of "when, not if" in this fucking hellhole of a country.

and there's nothing we can do

how is it possible that there's nothing we can do

actual living nightmare

What a weird day and a half it's been. These things are so routinized that it's really weird to see the behind the scenes view. There is still a half mile section of campus blocked off with police tape and cop cars. There were at least 15 news teams staggered along the street and median right off campus yesterday - every one of them seemed to be two schlubby dudes with cameras and the exact same rectangular reflector panel and one nicely dressed person holding a microphone. Today it was already down to one and all the giant satellite trucks were gone, because really there were "only" three people killed.

At the top of the hour on NPR I heard the president talk about an incident that that happened at the halfway point of my .75 mile walk to work. I heard a man-on-the-street interview and could hear the same wind blowing into the microphone that I could hear outside. I saw a picture of "the rock" that I can see from my classroom at the top of the Washington Post website. After that someone painted over it with a pro-gun message that only lasted an hour or so before someone painted over that.

I didn't know any of the students who were killed but I guarantee that I know people who do. One was in a friend's department and I haven't had the heart to ask yet - was this person in a 300 seat lecture with you, or in a class of 20? I don't know the names of the injured yet other than one because there is a go fund me for her that has raised $230k of the $50k goal in less than 21 hours.

Last night I was texting with a friend who is a faculty member at the university of idaho, where four students were murdered last fall. We were wondering which was worse - having the perpetrator of a quadruple homicide unknown and on the loose for several weeks or spending five hours wondering if a mass shooter is wandering through your neighborhood while helicopters circle overhead and cop cars and ambulances fly down the street every couple of minutes while also wondering how many people got shot and if you know any of them.

School was cancelled the rest of the week which is good - everyone I know is just numb and dumb and I think a lot of students just left town. On three separate occasions yesterday I grabbed can of lacroix from the fridge just lost them, finding them later in weird spot at room temperature. I put one in the freezer to cool down a bit and forgot about that one too until it exploded while I was making dinner and almost gave me a heart attack.

What the fuck am I supposed to do at 8:30 on monday morning next week? Who's going to show up? How many of them spent four hours locked down in the library or a dorm the other night? Or didn't get a return text from a friend for a few panicky hours? Or had to run out of the student union when the shooting started?

What a fucking miserable shithole country we have.

I’m so sorry that you and your area are going through this, joygoat.

imagine getting through COVID yr last two years of high school and then this. horrific.

It's a shithole country.

No doubt that some MSU students are survivors of the 2021 Oxford HS shooting.

sadly correct

Emma Riddle, an 18-year-old freshman at Michigan State University, survived the mass shooting at Oxford High School. On Monday night, she texted with her roommate, father and a friend while hiding in her dorm room during the mass shooting on MSU's campus. https://t.co/3Pu6E7coYT pic.twitter.com/ZKbqAPvUV7

— MLive (@MLive) February 16, 2023