Coffee

imo a pourover with a is for when you want your coffee to make you go aha mmmm and French press and drip coffee are for when you want your coffee to make you go ohoho

Thanks. I like that sort of sweet flavor you get when you really dial in the proportions on a light roast. Might get a chemex and see if I get more of that.

still have never found the home setup for brewed coffee that makes me happy and i've tried drip, french press, and chemex. just espresso now.

The combo of Chemex plus a Bonavita 1800 maker was ideal for me when I had an ice maker - it's temperature certified by some fancy coffee organization and has a shower head so it's automated pourover. I can't be bothered with keeping ice trays filled for Japanese iced coffee but I miss it.

Yeah bonavita is magic

I started doing single cup pourover at home and it's the best result I've had, better than chemex, drip, or aeropress.

you can make a single cup in a chemex

do ppl put their chemexes on the stove to heat it up? i heard they’re pyrex but never seen anyone do it. i lived in a place with one for a while and the coffee went cold super fast so there was never a reason to make more than the cup. and even the first cup was colder due to the additional pour, compared to pour-over straight into the cup

I have a ceramic top electric stove and I put my chemex on there set to low when there is extra coffee I want to keep warm

I would just run some boiling water t through the chemex to warm it up first. Never did a single cup in it because it seemed like a waste of a big filter, idk. Now we mostly use it for batch cocktails when we have a party.

We switched from French press to Chemex a few years ago and I do prefer it, I think it's smoother, but obv I don't turn my nose up at French press either. After we're done brewing, we pour off fresh cups and then put the rest in an insulated carafe, which keeps it warm for as long as it takes us to finish out the pot. An extra step but well worth it imo.

can’t stand cold coffee

i think if you make more it stays warm longer, because the volume gets bigger faster than the surface area. but yes, that’s the classic pitfall with chemex, that the coffee cools down pretty fast.

i have the handblown glass one and would not put it on an electric coil or gas stove. even pyrex can crack if it’s not thick (the chemex isn’t) and heated too quickly

what i do is heat my kettle to boiling and pour the whole thing in my chemex before i wet the filter. then i heat the kettle to 204. then i pour out the water. it cleans the chemex and warms it up enough that it doesn’t cool down too fast. i also put boiling water in my mug while i make my morning three cups. i also don’t like scalding hot coffee anyway!

there are people that make snuggies for chemexes that look like cute like zip up sweatshirts. bit twee for me!

not wanting to waste a paper filter for a single cup is a good reason not to use a chemex!

flopson you want the technivorm moccamaster which brews directly into an insulated carafe

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0528/3545/1043/products/MoccaMaster_Set_79317_KBGT_StoneGrey_3467-02_1001f408-c325-46d1-93d5-ce8190fd620e_800x.png?v=1672772472

Technivooooooooorm

i do the heat-up tricks (and also tend to drink smaller stronger cups) on ceramic hario v60. i don’t really mind making coffee multiple times a day; always looking for a reason to procrastinate

https://i.etsystatic.com/8112681/r/il/67f318/789872660/il_1080xN.789872660_kcog.jpg

https://www.amazon.com/HEXNUB-Compatible-Versions-Pour-Over-Coffeemaker/dp/B0844NBCTG?th=1&psc=1

who’s a handsome boy

I stayed at a friend's place who has a Moccamaster and it was truly good coffee, as good as a good pourover.

Another friend got one, liked it, then became disillusioned with it, cleaned it, and then liked it again, lol.

flopson you want the technivorm moccamaster which brews directly into an insulated carafe

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0528/3545/1043/products/MoccaMaster_Set_79317_KBGT_StoneGrey_3467-02_1001f408-c325-46d1-93d5-ce8190fd620e_800x.png?v=1672772472

― 龜, Sunday, 22 January 2023 10:57 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

hm this actually looks sick. we were just talking about how we need a way to make coffee when we have guests over and it looks like there’s one 50% off at wayfair… might cop

oh those are great. If I was going to buy another drip maker, that's the one I'd get.

people

i’ve cut back to one cup a day :(

Says who, some quack doctor??

Says who, some quack doctor??

yeah i’m down 1 cup a day on weekdays but i cheat it to two cups on weekends because coffee fucking rules

i only drink one cup most days, but its very large

It’s nighttime but I’m drinking coffee right now

moccamasters look great. appreciate that they’re not too “interior design”-y. i see these more expensive ones made with walnut and other fancy wood. around hot water? or they have lots of thin-looking glass parts. these on the other hand look suitably utilitarian

voooorm

I like that sort of sweet flavor you get when you really dial in the proportions on a light roast. Might get a chemex and see if I get more of that.

That's generally the type of flavor that I go for with my pour-over setup. Somewhat light-bodied, light roasts, freshly roasted, generally made not too strong (I use 30g of coffee for about 550ml of coffee - enough for two 10oz mugs). I switch between a Hario V60 and a Kalita Wave, depending on my mood. Results are similar with either. When I want to make a smaller amount I use an Aeropress. In my experience, that often produces a slightly sweeter, less bright flavor than the pour-over. But it only makes enough for one small cup (after adding some hot water to dilute it).

how many grams of coffee in this big cup?

i started doing 25g in 400ml instead of 500 to accommodate new thermoses. i wonder if i lost out on some kick

Our Bonavita died and i got a metal French press I'm going to use forever. Costariccan sock when I'm feeling fancy.

I am doing 50g coffee to 800g water in french press for my wife and I to each have two small cups. I'm starting to think my brew time is too long, especially with this natural coffee I have now.

My wife makes the coffee half the time and just eyeballs everything. I think I'm more consistent, but it's not like night and day.

I figured out approximately how long it takes my grinder to crank out one unit of ground coffee and just leave it at that setting

re brew times i will share with the coffee thread a fun coffee brewing knowledge, coffee brews in three phases which we can detect the smells of, the first one smells vegetal sort of grassy if you will and the coffee has very little body if you stopped here it would be the classic weak under extracted cup of cof, the second phase is the good stuff it smells like chocolate and has body and other good things like caffeine, the third phase is where the bitterness comes in you want a lil bitterness but not too much a very bitter cup is over extracted coffee, so you want to complete the second phase a do a little of the third thats the ideal cup of coffee more or less

so with a french press say you could remove the top give it a lil stir and smell it a few times during the brew, or even better is to make cowboy coffee and just smell it the whole time

i found that learning to detect those phases helped me to become a better and more fulfilled coffee person and its just interesting, also when someone steals coffee from a pot thats still brewing and thinks theyre getting the good stuff when really theyre getting the bad stuff and fucking up the balance of the whole pot its kind of funny

damn, lag∞n dropping the deep knowledge

also, I pulled my carafe out mid brew this morning to pour a cup :(

smh

when someone steals coffee from a pot thats still brewing and thinks theyre getting the good stuff

I hate it when baristas do that, but I bite my tongue. It happens sometimes because they didnt notice the pot was empty. So they start it brewing and then fill your cup from the pot while its still brewing.

thats a major violation

lol thanks for this. venturing out to the coffee internet only confuses me

been getting on well with the 50g in 800ml, 4 minute French press for me and the missus daily. 91 Celsius. naturally

thats a major violation

Yeah, probably what I should do is when I see them start brewing a fresh pot, is to change my order to an Americano.

800ml yield

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re brew times i will share with the coffee thread a fun coffee brewing knowledge, coffee brews in three phases which we can detect the smells of, the first one smells vegetal sort of grassy if you will and the coffee has very little body if you stopped here it would be the classic weak under extracted cup of cof, the second phase is the good stuff it smells like chocolate and has body and other good things like caffeine, the third phase is where the bitterness comes in you want a lil bitterness but not too much a very bitter cup is over extracted coffee, so you want to complete the second phase a do a little of the third thats the ideal cup of coffee more or less

so with a french press say you could remove the top give it a lil stir and smell it a few times during the brew, or even better is to make cowboy coffee and just smell it the whole time

i found that learning to detect those phases helped me to become a better and more fulfilled coffee person and its just interesting, also when someone steals coffee from a pot thats still brewing and thinks theyre getting the good stuff when really theyre getting the bad stuff and fucking up the balance of the whole pot its kind of funny

― lag∞n, Monday, January 23, 2023 11:23 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ah, this makes so much sense. I have actually tried pouring from the carafe before the brew is finished and noticed it doesn't taste right. I have also definitely noticed in doing my pour-over that pouring too little or too much water (or taking too little or too much time) can really impact the taste.

I've always been too lazy to measure water and grinds, but I should probably start. I just kind of eyeball it. TBF sometimes I feel like I can tell a lot from the quality and color of the foam that bubbles up on the coffee while I'm pouring. The grinds speak to me.

your bog standard hardware store food scale is now so good, i can't imagine measuring beans any other way. i get roasts all over the map so not going to try to get to eyeballing.

shd add that theres kind of a phase zero too think a lot of people know about this "the bloom" where the grounds are gassing off and brewing isnt happening at all its just air coming out, thats why people sometimes throw away the first bit of a pour over then continue

^^^^^ a scale is like 25 bucks

I've heard that as a thing to do with recently roasted beans. Doubt I could ever tell the difference between bloomed and not.

i think just dilutes the cup a little, yr basically pouring water through grounds and theyre releasing gasses instead of liquid so what comes out the other end is more water than coffee, personally dont think its a big deal, its is kind of fun to watch it bloom in a french press or whatever the grounds all puff up

That's my favorite thing in the whole process, that really rich looking foam when the coffee is blooming and before adding the rest of the water is very satisfying for some reason.