the ultimate prize
― Clay, Saturday, 21 January 2023 01:35 (one year ago) link
the owners would shut down the league before they reduce games and give up revenue. there would have to be an entirely different economic model. maybe in like 20 years when cable TV is fully dead things will be different
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 21 January 2023 02:11 (one year ago) link
i mean they could build a more profitable business with fewer games but that would take vision
― lag∞n, Saturday, 21 January 2023 02:18 (one year ago) link
Once Elon takes over
― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Saturday, 21 January 2023 02:55 (one year ago) link
there is certainly value in scarcity and while it would take some time and thought i don't believe that 17 home games per team of gate receipts is some sort of insurmountable amount of money to recoup
but if we're thinking long-term, what happens today with back to backs has to be among the worst consumer experiences out there and could be really destructive over time, like if you want alienate a well-off casual fan in cleveland just get them to pay secondary market prices for this game against the warriors where no one is playing.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 21 January 2023 02:58 (one year ago) link
sorry 12 home games
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 21 January 2023 02:59 (one year ago) link
turning on the tv seeing two teams playing in unrecognizable alternate uniforms and also you dont recognize the players because the stars arent playing is a bad experience
― lag∞n, Saturday, 21 January 2023 03:06 (one year ago) link
tbf i do think the nba is generally excellent tho it would be better if healthy players played and also if a teams uniforms all more or less had the same color scheme
― lag∞n, Saturday, 21 January 2023 03:07 (one year ago) link
yeah, the nba is in a good place now which is exactly why they should get after some of these issues now
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 21 January 2023 03:14 (one year ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, January 20, 2023 10:07 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
the two most important issues
― k3vin k., Saturday, 21 January 2023 03:43 (one year ago) link
Making the season into a big double round robin is a great idea
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 21 January 2023 03:47 (one year ago) link
Then you wouldn’t even need playoffs
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 21 January 2023 03:48 (one year ago) link
that's how the EPL works but they obviously have other tournaments that their teams go to which adds interest, so you would still want the playoffs to have some kind of tourney element.
to me the big thing that does is get to the ideal of each team playing 2 games a week, you do one on weds/thurs and one on fri/sat, you give the season some structure as opposed to having no idea what each team's schedule is week to week, and every game becomes an event because it's really hard to blow off games in that format.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 21 January 2023 04:08 (one year ago) link
i agree that would be the ideal, and each game becomes more of an anticipated “event” a la the NFLbut it’s not just 17 games’ worth of tickets and hot dogs - it’s all the ad money that goes with those games
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 21 January 2023 09:23 (one year ago) link
there would still be more than enough games for the national tv deals which is the big money. and local tv is going to look very very different in a few years anyway.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 21 January 2023 11:49 (one year ago) link
Just someone fix league pass.
― Jeff, Saturday, 21 January 2023 12:34 (one year ago) link
538 wants in on the post-up partyhttps://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-nba-teams-are-bringing-the-post-up-back-to-life/
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link
Thinking about post-ups in a vacuum, however, misses what makes them so valuable in the current NBA. The league is shifting away from static plays of any kind, and toward a fluid state of multiple actions layered on top of one another. The post-up as a primary playcall, with a ball handler dribbling downcourt and dumping the ball into the post, where a center promptly battles another center before shooting, is finished; that precise sequence has happened only twice this season.xOnce by Jokić and once by Andre Drummond.
this is wild. to think kendrick perkins used to get this play called for him to start every game!
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link
wasting your first possession "getting your center involved" was such a bizarre coaching conventional wisdom
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:29 (one year ago) link
it really was, every team did it it felt like
― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
big advantage for teams who had good centers
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link
You might know it as "walking the dog." I traced its 70-year history, from 60s legends to Chris Paul, and dug deep into how a new generation - led by @JaMorant - has found its most cutthroat purpose yet.The history of walking the dog, for @espn: https://t.co/mqGCGIsIgl— Ben Dowsett (@Ben_Dowsett) January 25, 2023
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 25 January 2023 16:11 (one year ago) link
they need to change the rule that lets you drain the clock by rolling the ball. it should only be used to extend the clock
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 January 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link
Disagree. The defending team should just have someone in the backcourt on the inbounds. It’s only happening because they let him do it.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 16:22 (one year ago) link
I did enjoy watching peak Dwight go to town in the post
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link
― Jeff, Wednesday, January 25, 2023 11:22 AM (one minute ago)
right, until this happens
The tactic came to an extreme head in a late October game between the Nuggets and Celtics. With about five minutes left, Denver forward Aaron Gordon slammed a two-handed dunk to pull the Nuggets within 13. As Gordon jogged back on defense, Al Horford rolled the ball to Jayson Tatum so slowly that it completely stopped before his own free throw line. As Tatum stood alongside the ball, Horford and Grant Williams guarded him like linemen blocking for a running back. Nuggets coaches called for Gordon to force Tatum to pick the ball up. Gordon barreled through Williams so hard that he was called for a flagrant.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 January 2023 16:25 (one year ago) link
the fact that the main person quoted in this article crowing about the value of rolling the ball to waste the clock is chris paul should tell you everything you need to know about the legitimacy of this practice
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 January 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link
Oh no, a single instance of it going bad!
― Jeff, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link
ive seen that clip and gordon was clearly being a dickhead
― micah, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU3gaffdUB8
― micah, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 21:46 (one year ago) link
If you pressure someone walking the dog, you’re going to get a wedgie.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link
love to have two guys set up in the backcourt playing offensive line for a third player who is watching the ball sit on the floor. that's the kinda basketball you really wanna see
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 January 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link
Ideally basketball will become a game where the referee tosses the ball into the air, then bounces on the ground a few times, comes to a halt, and two teams just stare at it for 48 minutes
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 22:59 (one year ago) link
changing the rules is for cowards, all sports must be allowed to become as perverted as possible
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 23:01 (one year ago) link
not good
These are the kind of fouls the league has to let go of to bring a little bit more balance to the game.What was De'Andre supposed to do here? pic.twitter.com/DoSEaFqhQq— Nekias (Nuh-KY-us) Duncan (@NekiasNBA) January 31, 2023
― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link
yeah that is absurd. no one wants to watch that. except calls like that are how the league looks after its stars
― micah, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:43 (one year ago) link
dame was even surprised, he was already countering cos he knew he got beat to the call
― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link
beat to the *spot
feel like that was just a bad call but they are calling the game too tight imho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link
its bad when they call those but then miss the more obvious hacks and holds on the perimeter
― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link
it’s a contact sport iirc
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link
on occasion
― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link
The NBA and NBPA, as part of CBA negotiations, have discussed tying the league's postseason awards to how many games players appear in during a season, sources told The Athletic. It's one way NBA is trying to solve the issue of star player availability. https://t.co/uWKqRdMpMU— Mike Vorkunov (@MikeVorkunov) February 14, 2023
― four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link
democratic party ass solution lol
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 14 February 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link
opportunity zones for winning the mvp
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link
thats totally gonna work and is not open to circumvention
― micah, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 21:03 (one year ago) link
they should just have an attendance award, like a high school
― la vie wokisme (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 21:20 (one year ago) link
yeah this stuff comes from a genuine place but all it's going to lead to is guys starting games and then committing a foul immediately after tip off and walking off the floor and what not
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 February 2023 21:22 (one year ago) link
maybe they'd try and tie it to minutes as opposed to games but i'm not sure that incentivizes playing in more games as much as it does playing more minutes in the games you do choose to play in
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 February 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link
there's pretty obvious ways to do mpg & gp as combined metrics
― Clay, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 21:25 (one year ago) link