Sight and Sound 2022 Top 20

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yes, Sunrise deserved more love, but I like that all the rest got votes

Dan S, Friday, 20 January 2023 00:18 (one year ago) link

The number that surprises me the most--shocks me almost--is 9 for Persona. Nothing to do with the film, which I love, but beforehand I was going to predict which five films I thought most likely to get zero, and that was going to be one of them. People just rarely talk about it in the context of these lists.

clemenza, Friday, 20 January 2023 00:36 (one year ago) link

2 for Vertigo is a surprise given its Morbsies placement

jmm, Friday, 20 January 2023 00:38 (one year ago) link

Actually, that's just as or maybe even more surprising.

clemenza, Friday, 20 January 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link

An even spread, though Murnau deservedThe Searchers' two votes.

otm, it's really stunningly beautiful top to bottom iirc

ꙮ (map), Friday, 20 January 2023 01:05 (one year ago) link

Being the only film to get zero votes is special in its own way!

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 20 January 2023 01:18 (one year ago) link

Unless I’m missing something, that’s a grand total of 1 vote for silent (or thereabouts) cinema?

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 20 January 2023 01:23 (one year ago) link

At least this poll kept Regle in the top 10

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 20 January 2023 01:24 (one year ago) link

Man With a Movie Camera is silent, unless you see it with the Shuffle Demons providing an improvised soundtrack.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 20 January 2023 01:35 (one year ago) link

I knew I was overlooking something

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 20 January 2023 01:38 (one year ago) link

murnau was robbed

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 January 2023 02:24 (one year ago) link

2002: pop critics are stupid rockists that can barely put a sentence together. ILX is where it's at.
2022: ILX doesn't get a ballot for the S&S poll. Let's keep it that way.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 January 2023 08:48 (one year ago) link

Seriously though, seeing Renoir at 2nd place and then the discussion was really great. I should rewatch Regle and get to French CanCan

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 January 2023 09:10 (one year ago) link

2002: pop critics are stupid rockists that can barely put a sentence together. ILX is where it's at.
2022: ILX doesn't get a ballot for the S&S poll. Let's keep it that way.

2001: Wins yet again

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 20 January 2023 12:32 (one year ago) link

Wow. I voted for either Cleo or Persona (can't remember which) but both Sunrise and Meshes of the Afternoon deserved better than this.

emil.y, Friday, 20 January 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link

Michael Jeck’s commentary for Seven Samurai on the Criterion Channel is rather dry but super well observed and cool.

ryan, Saturday, 21 January 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link

Sight and Sound 2022 Round 2: 21-40

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 22 January 2023 15:28 (one year ago) link

btw when did Close-Up become the canonical Kiarostami but not Through the Olive Trees, A Taste of Cherry, Certified Copy, etc., all of which I prefer? (Close-Up is fine ftr).

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:51 (one year ago) link

Close-Up was also the only Kiarostami in the top 100 in 2002 (#68) and 2012 (#43).

jaymc, Monday, 23 January 2023 00:38 (one year ago) link

My first watch was in 2012, yeah.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 January 2023 00:43 (one year ago) link

seemed like every public library in the county had a copy of A Taste of Cherry.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 January 2023 00:44 (one year ago) link

Same way Tokyo Story became the default Ozu … who the hell knows? (I love Close-Up, and it’s still maybe my #4 or #5 AK overall.)

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 23 January 2023 00:48 (one year ago) link

TS became the default Ozu, I suspect, because it was easily available. Every Blockbuster I visited in the '90s had a VHS copy. Not the case with Close-Up, I don't think.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 January 2023 00:50 (one year ago) link

the meta quality of it, as a docufiction film that kind of becomes a documentary, makes it stand out among his other great films to me

Dan S, Monday, 23 January 2023 00:56 (one year ago) link

Oh, I know: we're suckers for films about films. But this is Kiarostami's fascination.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 January 2023 00:57 (one year ago) link

That he inserted himself into the middle of the film and changed the course of events makes it unlike any other film I think

Dan S, Monday, 23 January 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link

Tokyo Story became the default Ozu because it references neither a season nor a time of day and as such is easier not to get mixed up with a different Ozus.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 23 January 2023 10:43 (one year ago) link

Tokyo Story's '92 placement (surprise top 3) fed into its availability in the ensuing decade(s) ... I agree with Dan S that Close-Up is perhaps the slipperiest of Kiarostami's meta experiments, which is also to account for it getting pushed to the top.

(Also, '22 seemed to take a lot of cues from '12 in terms of what new masters' "default" picks would be)

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 23 January 2023 12:41 (one year ago) link

I wish I was in Miami instead of cold and drizzly New Jersey. Speaking of how certain films seem to get selected as the representative for a director who often made many films in a similar style, of the 5 Wong Kar Wai films I’ve seen, In the Mood for Love is the one that made the least impression on me. But I get that it’s kind of the most grown-up and has the best production values.

o. nate, Thursday, 26 January 2023 02:12 (one year ago) link

I usually don’t let the weather get to me, but the cold drizzle this evening and stepping over or walking through the resultant puddles was totally a bummer.

Cry for a Shadowgraph (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 January 2023 05:15 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

The Godfather is on tonight on film 4 uk (II tomorrow, III on friday, repeated next week). making it about a dozen of the S&S top 100 that've been on free-to-air tv since mid-december.

(and Parasite is on again next week)

koogs, Wednesday, 1 March 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link

I've been watching the shortest movies on the list that i haven't seen before. Partie de campagne, The house is black, black girl, several under 90 minutes. Gotta build up to edward yang, bela tarr, those endless documentaries...

Pyaasa is leaving Criterion channel this month so I'll try to watch that longer one.

adam t. (abanana), Friday, 3 March 2023 09:04 (one year ago) link

Oh! Need to watch all those Guru Dutts! Meaning I need to, maybe somebody else needs to as well.

Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 March 2023 15:19 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

"...of the 5 Wong Kar Wai films I’ve seen, In the Mood for Love is the one that made the least impression on me"

re: In the Mood for Love, the characters repeatedly meet in a cramped 1960s Hong Kong apartment building (to a couple of Spanish language Nat King Cole songs on the soundtrack). She is always wearing different beautiful cheongsams. They get to know each other and eventually role-play the adultery they think represents the lives of their spouses. They try to imagine confronting their spouses and can’t. They yearn for the same connection with each other and it becomes very palpable for them, but then it is gone. The events are told in short-hand

In addition to the innovative filming techniques which I’ve mentioned in other threads and which go to the heart of the story - presaging or echoing of certain moments, replaying of scenes with different perspectives, use of different frame rates, overcranking, step-printing, different exposures - it is a heartbreaking story of missed connections and lost love

Dan S, Saturday, 25 March 2023 01:42 (one year ago) link

also how most scenes are short but some are extended

Dan S, Saturday, 25 March 2023 01:57 (one year ago) link

I can’t claim to have noticed the innovative techniques. Not sure if it would’ve changed my impression, which is that the film was less entertaining than Chungking Express, Days of Being Wild, Happy Together or Fallen Angels.

o. nate, Saturday, 25 March 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link

I haven’t seen it since it was in theaters but Dan’s analysis seems to me otm. Will hopefully find some time in my busy schedule to rewatch soon/pvmic

Old Man Reacts to Cloud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 March 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link


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