No Neck Blues Band ???

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Tan As Fuck that’s some old school weird shit.
Sunburned are still going.
Pelt….

ian, Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:37 (one year ago) link

oh boy do we remember poster r0ger 4adultery? he was the ww + vv guy, yes?

i remember liking uhh espers and tower recordings a fair amount.

there were all of the wolf eyes and related noise things and of course wolf eyes is still at it. would much rather watch a doc about some of these people than the dumb lcd / strokes thing that just came out.

xp didn't know about sunburned, that's cool. and god pelt were great. i never heard of tan as fuck i'll have to check that out.

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:43 (one year ago) link

When I think about this period, I always think about CD-Rs, and about how the CD-R was the dominant form of distribution for many of these bands as well as some of the noisier bands of the time, and then I think about how most of those discs probably no longer play. I wonder if anyone was actively archiving any of this music at the time. There were a few limited Sunburned Hand Of The Man things I remember really liking, and I noticed recently that they're one of the few bands from this era who seem to be Bandcamp-savvy. I keep meaning to check out some of it but there is just so much, which I think you could argue is one of the reasons people got burned out on this stuff so quickly. Most of the bands mentioned in this thread just saturated the market.

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link

you can get like 50 Sunburned albums on bandcamp for $26 or something ... I haven't taken the plunge yet, but I might!

tylerw, Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:47 (one year ago) link

I as going to add Sunburned to the list, their new album from last year was really good.

Anyway, didn't think I'd get this much pushback for that comment, it wasn't a knock against the band at all. Like I said, I dig them quite a bit though I never got to see them live. Fwiw that Meek quote you pulled out is equally as cringeworthy as that Cormac Mccarthy quote, but I think that's an element of trying to get musicians to answer awkward questions or dig into thoughts that come out quickly in response. Doesn't typically make me lose respect for a musician unless the pretentiousness is backed up by shitty music (which isn't the case wrt to NNCK).

Also, fwiw, it wasn't me that brought "pretentious" into the discussion.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 January 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link

isn't the closest to nnck the band "jackie-o motherfucker!"

the late great, Thursday, 19 January 2023 22:16 (one year ago) link

the only reason JOMF is different is because they are essentially a location-based group— the line-up always changes. from what i know of Crazy Doberman, they’re more static, like NNCK were.

fwiw a lot of NNCK stuff is up on Bandcamp, and Pat Murano (of the group) has a lot of his own stuff up too, along with collabs with Tom Carter, etc. I really like his work

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 20 January 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link

I HATED Wolf Eyes live, but have come to love Aaron’s solo recordings since he left the group, as well as his collaborations… the records with Turman are especially nice, “Blizzard” is all time for me, just really menacing and beautiful at once.

On my phone and cant be bothered to change it to an embed, but that can be found on Bandcamp and also here

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 20 January 2023 00:39 (one year ago) link

oh boy do we remember poster r0ger 4adultery? he was the ww + vv guy, yes?

i remember liking uhh espers and tower recordings a fair amount.

there were all of the wolf eyes and related noise things and of course wolf eyes is still at it. would much rather watch a doc about some of these people than the dumb lcd / strokes thing that just came out.

xp didn't know about sunburned, that's cool. and god pelt were great. i never heard of tan as fuck i'll have to check that out.


Tan as Fuck were great.

Also just remembered THE SKATERS, Hair Police, and (holy shit yall) D Yellow Swans. Gabe Saloman from the latter is working on a dissertation at UCSC right now on the sonics and philosophy of protest music. Really sweet and interesting guy.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 20 January 2023 00:43 (one year ago) link

Maybe I should start a thread as a nostalgia repository for all this stuff— it really did change my life, in many ways for the better. I became a much better listener

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 20 January 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link

oh definitely, all of that stuff really sharpened my listening too and offered a whole new world of possibilities. there was a period of about 4 years where i was on that board i hate music, before i got to ilm. a lot of that stuff plus the eai erstwhile related stuff were responsible for helping me hear a lot more and more sensitively.

ꙮ (map), Friday, 20 January 2023 00:57 (one year ago) link

liking the revive, there is a hilarious noize board post somewhere that's an "interview" with some guy trying to guess the music playing and running through all of these names plus more

sleeve, Friday, 20 January 2023 03:35 (one year ago) link

"Mouthus?"

-no

"Double Leopards?"

-no

etc

sleeve, Friday, 20 January 2023 03:35 (one year ago) link

I’d add Growing to this list. I saw they’re playing still

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Friday, 20 January 2023 04:57 (one year ago) link

Which NNCK album would you recommend for someone unfamiliar with their work? Saw them live a couple of times in the 2000s and was very impressed.

lord of the rongs (anagram), Friday, 20 January 2023 07:08 (one year ago) link

Anagram: most accessible would be “Sticks and Stones….”, I’m a fan of “Rye Antenna” and “Letters from the Serth”

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 20 January 2023 12:02 (one year ago) link

I’d add Growing to this list. I saw they’re playing still


I always liked the beginning of Growing sets, but they tended to blow the power every attempt ti see them— about four times!

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 20 January 2023 12:02 (one year ago) link

Here’s the live set from when I booked them as an undergrad.

https://archive.org/details/NNCK-live-11-5-05-fairchild-chapel_202101

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 20 January 2023 12:05 (one year ago) link

I can't say I've heard enough of the discography to be certain, but I'll say that 2005's Qvaris was my way in.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 January 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link

i like Qvaris but feel it a little leas dynamic than I want. Sticks and Stones has high energy freakouts and low-level, nearly inaudible moments of weird mesmerizing string work. It was also, admittedly, my way into their sound, so I probably have listened to it more than most other records, excepting a few live sets that are just wild

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 20 January 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link

Still have the original sleeve with Christopher Wool print for “Quantarenius, Cook & Co”, another favorite and perhaps their most explicitly “political” recording

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 20 January 2023 15:12 (one year ago) link

Maybe I should start a thread as a nostalgia repository for all this stuff— it really did change my life, in many ways for the better. I became a much better listener

This old thread Whiney made has at least some overlap: Best Underground American Noise Act of the Noise-Punk Era (ca. 1998-2005)

intheblanks, Saturday, 21 January 2023 03:58 (one year ago) link

Was doing college radio during the peak of this era. And though I rarely revist these groups now, I can honestly say--at the risk of sounding as grandiose or "pretentious" as the NNCK guys--this whole scene really did kind of change what I saw as "possible" in lots of different facets of life, not just music or art.

intheblanks, Saturday, 21 January 2023 04:02 (one year ago) link

I caught the tail end of a lot of this stuff and never really got into the No-Necks. I'm going to have to revisit for sure.

In the UK, it feels like a lot of this stuff was centred around the Wire and David K33nan in particular - his record shop and mailing list. Also tend to think of this as 'ATP-core', which is ugly but true in terms of how we encountered lots of the bands.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 21 January 2023 10:40 (one year ago) link

This thread made me dig out *Drowner Yellow Swans*. Bury me inside this shit.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Sunday, 22 January 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link

Yeah D Yellow Swans among the best of these groups, the most consistently good

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:07 (one year ago) link

This thread made me dig out *Drowner Yellow Swans*. Bury me inside this shit.

― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski)

thank you so much for this, never checked 'em out before cuz I never knew where to start, this is like Zoviet France through a distortion pedal, so good and exactly what I needed right this minute

sleeve, Sunday, 22 January 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link

I made a recording of a nasty good live set they did in 05, will upload soon.

05-06 was the year I was kind of the head of my college concert board— we brought Yellow Swans, No-Neck, Old Time Relijun, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Excepter, Wooden Wand, and Gang Gang Dance. Circle and Lichens also performed. It was a real golden age for me and this type of music.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 23 January 2023 01:10 (one year ago) link

Oh, and also BATTLES, who were excellent live

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Monday, 23 January 2023 01:11 (one year ago) link

Not really listened to many of these bands recently but it really was fun being 16 or so and spending all day on the internet when this stuff was in it's peak.

bain4z, Monday, 23 January 2023 09:38 (one year ago) link


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