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The Europeans is where I direct people when I want'em to see how witty Harry could be.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link

Washington Square too.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link

all the garners since i guess red shift have hand-wobble sorta-kinda been abt high-concept science -- as in weird takes on time and and how it gums up space -- but i have to say i'm not really finding any reviewer who buys into the "quantum physics" claim also going on to elucidate it in any useful way. aside from the epigraph quotation nothing jumps off the page, and for that to register that you have to look up who carlo rovelli is and what he means by "time is ignorance"

i wonder if a better way into garner's idea is that the tales in mythologies are a rival way of unravelling the perceptional stumbling block of time, just as science attempts to? the book isn't "about quantum physics", it's a way to end-run towards the cosmological state of affairs that quantum physics is also pointing to

i haven't listened to this podcast yet, maybe it gets there (i have read treacle walker and agree that it is immensely readable and typically but also pleasingly opaque

This, on Treacle Walker, is excellent, not least for Alan Garner's idea that folklore/fantasy writing is analogous to quantum physics, while realist fiction is Newtonian. I only *sort of* get that, but it doesn't matter as the episode is so full of attentive love for the work. https://t.co/AMKwx4h1SL

— Peter Ross (@PeterAlanRoss) November 11, 2021

mark s, Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link

there's a bunch of stuff you have to look up in fact (tho all of it is interesting)

mark s, Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:34 (one year ago) link

Thanks for Jameses and Backlisted link! I forgot they'd done a whole podcast on TW. The Red Shift one was very good iirc.

This looks interesting (also haven't read): http://strangehorizons.com/non-fiction/the-critic-and-the-clue-tracking-alan-garners-treacle-walker/

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 19 January 2023 22:19 (one year ago) link

but i have to say i'm not really finding any reviewer who buys into the "quantum physics" claim also going on to elucidate it in any useful way

hah yes absolutely, lots of "it's really about time... [then drops the subject]"

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 19 January 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link

time seems like another one of those huge mysteries that can easily be observed and described, but defies explaination

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 19 January 2023 22:46 (one year ago) link

Yeah, there are plenty of weird things about time in classical physics, before one even brings in quantum weirdness, as Arthur Eddington pointed out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_of_time

o. nate, Friday, 20 January 2023 03:39 (one year ago) link

I read a section of Georges Perec's SPECIES OF SPACES / ESPECES D'ESPACES (1974 in the original). It was quite bad: just immense self-indulgence, doodling, writing anything down and producing almost zero insight. It was hard to justify its being published.

the pinefox, Friday, 20 January 2023 09:16 (one year ago) link

hah! you'd love Kev the Postman's Round About Town book then

calzino, Friday, 20 January 2023 09:22 (one year ago) link

time is a group hallucination innit

Stevolende, Friday, 20 January 2023 12:45 (one year ago) link

Time is the golden spike connecting the intercontinental railroad of the USA. Thus the table is the table, and the shot heard round the world. (But note that even Isaac Newton went on to other things, like alchemy: lead into gold etc.---people wanna take the scenic route, even going in the same direction---so: many approaches to/views of time, while the meter's running on interest, re: academic grants, publishing advances etc.)

dow, Friday, 20 January 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link

I read a section of Georges Perec's SPECIES OF SPACES / ESPECES D'ESPACES (1974 in the original). It was quite bad: just immense self-indulgence, doodling, writing anything down and producing almost zero insight. It was hard to justify its being published.


Love this book.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 20 January 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

The Premonitions Bureau by Sam Knight. One of those non fiction books that start out as one thing but then seem to meander wherever the author's fancy takes them. Begins with the 1966 Aberfan disaster - which I'd never read about in much detail before, absolutely horrifying. Talks about the premonitions various people, including one of the victims, had about it. Even as a non believer when I read about these things I feel the abyss of the unknown open up beneath me. Goes on to talk about the titular bureau, a feature & department in the evening standard, set up by a psychologist and journalist to investigate these things. Delves into the psychologist's life, digressions into kant, freud, helmholtz. Mostly well written except for when he describes entropy - "It is the cup of coffee which cooled when you drank it. It is the energy of the sun which lit yesterday. It is the leaves that fall from the tree. It is the empire that fell. It is the emails you didn't reply to." He doesn't go off like that too much though.

ledge, Monday, 23 January 2023 10:20 (one year ago) link

I like the sound of it but am tempted to read Knight’s shorter feature version in the New Yorker instead

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:52 (one year ago) link

Just finished The Journey to the East, Herman Hesse. I only made it through to the end because it is so short. Hesse writes as if he intended this book to be a sort of overview or culmination of his career. If so, it is awfully thin gruel. The main thing it accomplishes is to firmly establish how deeply Hesse was in thrall to German Romanticism and that German Romanticism was an incoherent mush of anti-intellectual idealism. For someone who wrote a famous book about the Buddha, if he'd ever had a clue about buddhism he'd forgotten it all by the time he wrote this.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link

xp lol fair. time short, books many.

ledge, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link

Started Tom Crewe's debut novel The New Life, about John Addington Symonds and Haylock Hills' acquaintanceship leading up to the writing of their seminal Sexual Inversion.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 January 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link

there's another (fiction?) book about aberfan that i keep hearing about from various places....

A Terrible Kindness: The Bestselling Richard and Judy Book Club Pick. Jo Browning Wroe (99p - https://www.kobo.com/gb/en/ebook/a-terrible-kindness)

koogs, Monday, 23 January 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link

it's okay. about a young embalmer who volunteers to work on some aberfan victims and his life before and after. more about his relationship with his mother and his fear of having children with his wife.

oscar bravo, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:09 (one year ago) link

the knight book was serialised on radio 4 and was an enjoyable listen iirc

oscar bravo, Monday, 23 January 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link

Finished it, a very curious, almost astonishing read. The author doesn't come across at all like a credulous crackpot but all the premonitions and predictions are never treated with any scepticism - no suggestion that there's any foul play or trickery, no statistics brought to bear. And taken at face value they really strain at the bounds of what could be called coincidence - two people with twelve 'apparently' successful predictions in one year - that 'apparently' is pretty much as far as he goes in questioning it - including not only a plane crash but the number of casualties, a train crash and the train's destination, and the first man to die in space. I just don't know what to make of it all!

ledge, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 09:15 (one year ago) link

this sounds very like the classic charles fort mode: cheerfully listing the anomalies and never questioning them

mark s, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 10:24 (one year ago) link

pretty much - it's an entertaining mode and i enjoy the frisson it gives but ultimately i prefer a colder analysis, if only for my own sanity! and perhaps the author does lean slightly towards the woo, at one point he says he and his wife decided not to find out the sex of their baby after they saw three magpies ('for a girl') in the garden.

ledge, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 10:55 (one year ago) link

that's just good science

mark s, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 11:02 (one year ago) link

re: the prediction of the death of cosmonaut vladimir komarov, it was the first soviet manned mission in two years; he says the prediction was posted at 5.30pm on a sunday (how does he know? clearly not from a postmark) while komarov was in space, but news of the launch had been broadcast at 7am "by radio sweden" so "it is possible she knew there was a man in space". ok, telling us when it was broadcast by the bbc would be more helpful but perhaps that information is no longer available. still, she probably did know, take that one off the list of impossibles. sorry, there's probably a thread for this kind of thing.

ledge, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 11:04 (one year ago) link

The Soul of Black Folk by W.E.B. du Bois.
Have had this for a couple of years and think I've heard about it longer ago. So about time I actually got around to reading it not just seeing the author turn up in histories of Black America.
It was published in 1903 and I think the language use might just reflect that. It is a little florid or poetic or something. THink it's quite readable. He was a bit elitist or at least wanted to lift everybody of teh race up to a certain point rather than celebrate themselves. So thought a little too fitting around white supremacist policy possibly. I need to read a bit further into this to see how he combats that.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 11:51 (one year ago) link

He pushed against the Booker T. Washington emphasis on vocational training for (as Du Bois saw it) an essentially docile workforce, playing it as safe as possible with white capitalism. If you did have a blue collar job, if that was most feasible for you, OK, but that didn't have to mean signing out of your day job, signing in at the bar, church, or at home, keeping your mind always in one harness or another.

dow, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link

I started a book a couple of days ago, Barbarians to Angels, Peter Wells. I bailed out about a third of the way into it. It was a survey of European history during the so-called Dark Ages, roughly 425 BCE to 800 BCE, when the western Roman empire fell apart. Since very few texts emerged from this period that could be described as histories, chronicles, annals, or memoirs, the majority of the book was based on archeological finds. The main problem was that the material was not very illuminating on a human level. It was factual enough, but descriptions of the average height of skeletal remains and the dimensions of building foundations make for very bland reading. If that's your cup of tea, give it a go.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link

Finished these recently (1878/79):

Victor Cherbuliez- Jean Teterol's Idea (a peasant is kicked by a nobleman and becomes wealthy so he can come back and fuck with him)
Hector Malot- Nobody's Boy (Orphan is happy doing tricks with his dog for money until his family is found and they turn out to be thieves and grifters)
Paul Heyse- Tales from the German
Anthony Trollope- An Eye for an Eye (man becomes engaged to a lower class woman, but then his rich uncle takes him in and he decides he'd rather have the woman as a mistress)
Octave Feuillet- The Diary of a Woman (Woman tries to maintain the good name of her suicide friend)
Benito Perez Galdos- Marianela (A homely girl devotes herself to a brilliant young blind man, but when he regains his sight she dies rather than let him see her)

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

He was a bit elitist or at least wanted to lift everybody of teh race up to a certain point rather than celebrate themselves

Darryl Pinckney argues in a couple recent essays that Black politics has room for both Washington and DuBois.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link

xp I could see those all being separate plotlines in a single novel

jmm, Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

lol

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link

room for both Washington and DuBois. Yeah, that's why I said (as Du Bois saw it). He was a dynamic writer, and sometimes way ahead of the curve insight-wise, but hardly the last word on what should/could be done.
Aimless on Barbarians to Angels makes me think of Updike on Vico and Herder, a warmed-over but useful collection of lectures by Isaiah Berlin (who 'pulls many dusty name from the library of his mind"):

(Berlin) shows a power of creative assemblage mostly toward the end, when, in a piece of original speculation, Vico's relativism is linked to the forgotten disputes of sixteenth-century jurists as they sought to recover Roman law in its presumed purity from its medieval and Byzantine accretions..."The more faithfully the despised medieval accumulation was removed, the stranger the classical world appeared: if anything, it was the alleged monkish distortions that gave it such affinity to the ideas of later ages as it seemed to have." Here, in the researches of once heated controversy, lie the seeds of historical relativism; the scholars themselves, though without the generalizing power of a Vico, were brought to perceive that languages and institutions have "their beginnings, progress, corruption, end."

dow, Thursday, 26 January 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link

425 BCE to 800 BCE

oops, correct that to CE, not BCE

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 26 January 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link

I finished Fernanda Melchor's Paradais; it's fair to say that if you liked Hurricane Season, you'll like this -- it's even more gruesome, to the point of being lurid maybe, and her style, while it's developing more, it still very much a signature -- if you were put off by the style of HS, you won't find much to help you here. But her ruthlessness about how poverty and helplessness play out among people without anything to look forward to is rich. I'm a fan, even if I could hardly bear the ending.

Now onto Jazmina Berrera's Linea Nigra -- I'm making peace with living in this tide of memoirs, and she's a good writer, very much in the Euro-discursive-citation mode that Pitól uses, and Jergovic & a lot of Serbian/Croatian writers -- weaving things she's reading & has read into her story of her pregnancy & the earthquakes that happened while she was pregnant. For me her style takes some warming up to -- but as I say I'm making peace with memoirs, and 1/3 of the way through I've connected with her voice enough to think: yes, she's good. The pacing of that first section is really great.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 26 January 2023 23:30 (one year ago) link

I'm still reading the long refugee book NO FRIEND BUT THE MOUNTAINS. It's not enjoyable, but it's fair to note that as the book has progressed, it has improved. The bad poetry has lessened, the prose has become somewhat sharper, and the book is making stronger observations, about the management of space in a carceral environment.

the pinefox, Friday, 27 January 2023 10:27 (one year ago) link

> Anthony Trollope- An Eye for an Eye

have been meaning to read some trollope for a while. and this sounds like a good start. also the intro suggests it was delayed because it's siilar to Gaskell's Ruth which got bad reviews. and the wikipedia page for that says it shares themes with The Scarlet Letter. so there's another 3 things to read...

koogs, Friday, 27 January 2023 11:47 (one year ago) link

If you do like An Eye For An Eye, try The Way We Live Now.

dow, Friday, 27 January 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link

Trollope was so prolific in the 1870s--usually at least two big novels a year, plus travel writing about Australia and South Africa and a book about Hawthorne. I like almost everything I've read.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 27 January 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link

Anybody: good collections of book reviews??

dow, Sunday, 29 January 2023 03:21 (one year ago) link

I usually read A Long Trollope Novel a year. I usually recommend The Way We Live Now as a start.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 January 2023 03:27 (one year ago) link

I'm really liking Marlon James' A Brief History of Seven Killings

Dan S, Sunday, 29 January 2023 03:57 (one year ago) link

Dow, I don’t know if you’re speaking toward collections of reviews by different authors, but a recent collection of both short form and long-form reviews and essays that I enjoyed is Robert Glück’s Communal Nude

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Sunday, 29 January 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link

(i looked up Trollope on the penguin website to see if they had a complete set of *ebooks* of the Penguin Classics Barsetshire novels but it looks like they don't do Barchester Towers, although they do as a Vintage Trollope, but only the Classics version will come with intro and notes. maddening.)

https://www.penguin.co.uk/search-results?q=trollope+towers&tab=books
four different versions. what is the point?

koogs, Sunday, 29 January 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

Dow, I don’t know if you’re speaking toward collections of reviews by different authors, but a recent collection of both short form and long-form reviews and essays that I enjoyed is Robert Glück’s Communal Nude

― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table)


Thanks! I was thinking of collections by single authors, but could be anthologies.

dow, Sunday, 29 January 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link

Iain Banks, The Quarry. Supposedly Banks didn't know he had cancer till the book was almost finished so it's curious that one of the main characters is dying of cancer, and largely uses his remaining time to fulminate about what a shitshow the world and the human race is. The narrator is a teenager with aspergers, a typical Banksian character. The rest of the cast are old uni friends of the cancer patient gathered for a last reunion, they're a pretty unlikeable bunch for the most part, there's supposedly a mystery about a lost videotape but it doesn't really come to anything. Overall, disappointing.

ledge, Monday, 30 January 2023 09:11 (one year ago) link

the only one i haven't read, i think. and the one about whisky.

my Culture rereads seem to have stalled at Excession

koogs, Monday, 30 January 2023 09:43 (one year ago) link

These are mostly older book reviews and longer essays, but the Dwight Macdonald collection Masscult and Midcult is pretty good.

o. nate, Monday, 30 January 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link

Thanks for that---I've never read him, but came across promising mentions from back in the day: Marxist but not too reductive, right? Also convivial enough.

dow, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:28 (one year ago) link


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