i'm mr meeseeks look at me rick and morty thread

he was reportedly arrested for domestic violence in 2020, but the news didn’t get out til last week, which has less to do with victims coming forward and more to do with powerful people protecting him from accountability for as long as they could

otm

Also, if you look in some of the twitter threads, at least one person tried bringing this up in 2020 on Reddit and was pretty swiftly shut down/deleted.

This is the thing - despite #metoo, people still dont believe women.

*cough*JOHNNYDEPP*cough*

^that one still blows my mind. still have feminist friends proclaiming they're "#teamJohnny" (btw how sick is it to refer to an abuse case with #team anything, this isn't a fucking sport).

hell, there was a little known pop punk band someone reported in the bassnectar thread that had several members accused of sexual misconduct, and everybody in the twitter thread reporting it was accusing the victim of seeking clout - for a band nobody has heard of.

What pop punk band was that?

All Time Low (sorry, had to dig the thread back up lol). so I greatly overstated things by saying a "band nobody has heard of", they're definitely well known in the scene.

but not the extremely famous type of band someone would 'falsely accuse' for clout (which let's be frank, nobody really does this anyway, it's just a dog whistle).

The odd thing is that I vaguely remember reading about this in 2020. But it must have been a false memory. After a bit of Googling I think I'm remembering this story from 2018 about Dan Harmon, one of the other minds behind Rick and Morty:
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/community-creator-dan-harmon-admits-sexually-harassing-ex-employee-198341/

He was subsequently fired from Community, although the official reason was that he was unreliable. But he was rehired, and is apparently working on a movie. The news about Justin Roiland makes the following story seem less charming than it would have been in 2021:
https://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/tv-and-film-rick-and-mortys-justin-roiland-got-drunk-while-recording-drunk-rick-20210427

"The recording was for season three episode Vindicators 3: The Return of Worldender, in which Rick sets up a deadly Saw-like scenario for a team of superheroes after going on a bender. Rick and Morty co-creator Dan Harmon explained that he encouraged Roiland to get drunk before the take.

And method act he did, knocking back several shots, despite associate producer Sydney Ryan asking Roiland not to have tequila. She explained: "The first thing I told him was don't have tequila, so of course, he had tequila... and liquor just adds a whole new aspect to Justin."

Harmon then admitted that things got 'a little creative'. The clip ... shows Roiland knocking back his fourth shot of tequila, before declaring his, quite clearly boozy, take sounds 'too sober'. Meanwhile Ryan insists: "No it doesn't - it sounds great. Later in the clip, Ryan can be heard urging Roiland to 'try and read this one on-script' as the voice-actor ad libs his lines, questions what happens to us after we die and swears at his colleagues."

Back when *Adventure Time* was a thing I remember saying to myself "please, dear God, don't let Pendleton Ward turn out to be a child molester, rapist, or sex predator". I admit it was because he had a fuzzy beard, and back that I was prejudiced against people with facial hair. The irony is that Justin Roiland, who has been consistently well-groomed - bearded, but well-groomed - is in fact the serial sex predator. Not Pendleton Ward.

And unfortunately Roiland also had a recurring role on that as the Earl of Lemongrab.

I've seen that behind-the-scenes clip of him getting drunk while recording a take, not saying it was a smoking gun or anything, but it did make me think he "Urghh, this guy's actually kind of a dick".

Although really there were plenty of clues before that, like the way he handled a dispute with the animators when they decided to unionise:

https://www.cartoonbrew.com/artist-rights/rick-and-morty-co-creator-justin-roiland-fuck-the-union-103723.html

yyyyyyup

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/adult-swim-ends-relationship-justin-roiland-domestic-abuse-charges-1235308995/amp/

huh, how’s that gonna work.

kind of suspect there are eight zillion dudes who have been doing the character voices at their friends who just jumped out of their chairs

they replaced Kermit after Jim Henson died (twice) and the world didn't end so I'm sure they can find someone to do these cartoon voices

Dick Van Dyke getting a phone call

Billy West can take over like he did when John K did basically the exact thing Roiland's done. lol.

i was trying to remember which of those ren and stimpy guys turned out to be bad

I haven't watched Family Guy since the early seasons but people said the new actor for Cleveland is dead-on, and there are some pretty good R&M impersonators out there. I also didn't realize that Roiland has not been part of the writing for a few years now, so it seems they won't have too much trouble going forward

Other than waiting for Dan Harmon to do something he can’t wriggle out of

Roiland will still get royalties, i.e. make money off new eps, right?

morals clauses have gotten more popular since weinstein, so maybe not?

Good to see akm is comfortable enough to resume posting itt without addressing any of his victim blaming bs

the ugly irony of morals clauses being wielded by massive media conglomerates tho, damn. like on the one hand, any way to force concrete negative consequences on famous jerks when they're revealed to be sexually manipulative/aggressive is good since the legal system is 99% useless, and the threat of getting their bag snatched might be enough to make some of them think twice before propositioning teenagers over snapchat or whatever. but then on the other loathsome hand, [soul-destroying list of corporate malfeasance redacted].

wish more of these wretched assholes could actually come to understand why doing this stuff is wrong, and then use their platforms & talent to communicate that to their stans.

He is also the heart of the show

— Mr. Tweet (@elonmusk) January 25, 2023

can he please just get a really time-consuming disease already

he just spent 44 billion dollars on one

wish more of these wretched assholes could actually come to understand why doing this stuff is wrong, and then use their platforms & talent to communicate that to their stans.

haven't a bunch of abusers put moralizing at the heart of their work? thinking Louis CK's show, Cosby ...

I'm not saying your idea is bad, just ... abuse seems amazingly compatible with introspection, I guess.

Related: Dan Harmon did a confessional about his awful sexpest behavior some years after it happened, he sounded genuinely contrite about it

Hasan even re-played Harmon’s apology video and walked his twitch stream audience thru why it was necessary, and pushed back on some of the weirder reactions in chat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUvuHr0-np4

abuse seems amazingly compatible with introspection, I guess.

i'm not quite sure i understand?

He's saying a lot of dudes who make a living off doing deep thought speeches about how and why they and/or men in general act shitty don't have any problem in continuing to act shitty despite being able to articulate that.

I had only watched the first episode of this show before yesterday. My son had shown it to me when he was in middle school and I was thoroughly repulsed and never went back for more. For whatever reason, yesterday I decided to give it another chance and threw a few more episodes on. I'm still skeptical that I'll find much value in it, but my plan was to keep trying to engage. Then as soon as I flipped it off, I went to check the news and saw the news about his domestic violence.

― peace, man, Friday, January 13, 2023 10:09 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

Finished season 2 yesterday and I'm in no hurry to continue. I've seen enough to learn what people like about it, but have been overwhelmed by too many butts and pendulous testicular shapes to continue for now.

I knew about the Blonde Redhead song, but was surprised to hear it so early on in the series. However, the Tony! Toni! Tone! drop towards the end of season 2 blew my mind.

Go figure, his shitty behavior has been going on for years:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/justin-roiland-animation-empire-implosion-rick-and-morty-1235319366/

Over the next two weeks, insiders say, advertisers panicked, lawyers huddled

many of his former colleagues say they haven’t heard from him in years, and when they have, it’s been unpleasant.

these guys that Justin hired were like, ‘Look, I drew a turd with eyes, let’s do a story about that.’ ”

‘Wouldn’t it be amazing if we could do this show in VR and never have to be near each other?’

at various points, his visitors included Kanye West, the comedians on Impractical Jokers and porn star Riley Reid, who gifted the room a succulent.

“It was something we just ignored because it was disgusting,” says an insider.

The behavior came to be expected, and though it was infuriating to collaborators, they say it was often excused by executives, chalked up to what one describes as “an eccentricity of a genius weirdo.”

His work, which has long made comedy hay of subjects like incest and sexual deviance, was now being viewed through a different lens.

“Now everything is going to have an asterisk on it.”

Koala Man and Solar Opposites were dire but I'm hopeful R&M will rebalance a bit. They should do totally different voices!

Solar Opposites was hideous shit, just aggressively unfunny stupidity

Someone I read suggested next season they should get different celebrities to voice R&M for one episode each, which I think would be fun

Ving Rhames as Mordy

Can’t believe we’re going to have to put an asterisk on incest

Other show sources say he’d derail pitches and interrupt with sophomoric non sequiturs like, “What if his brains were on the outside?”

you can't interrupt with sophomoric non sequiturs in here gentlemen this is the rick and morty writer's room

Ha yeah when I read that I thought "how is that not like any random episode already ffs"

seriously, like the episode where Rick gets drunk and passes out in his own diarrhea (shit, was it even only one episode?)

Wow sounds like a great show

It actually has something going for it in the first couple seasons!

I don't think there was a bad season.

The example I gave was to illustrate how silly it was at times which is why objecting to his sophomoric ideas was silly (as opposed to some of the much more heinous shit he's been accused of)

I don’t know, Pickle Rick was very much a nadir for me

It had an overall great concept but was already getting into dimishing returns territory, putting aside the puerile shit like the abovementioned. There's only so much you can do with "ha ha we can just make up anything cos we broke the rules of physics" before it just starts getting confusing and repetitive.

there's infinite shit you can do if you have a bit of imagination but maybe you need to be less attached to your shitty characters and their unfunny dynamics

yea the first few episodes I watched of this show got me pretty excited but once you see a bad episode you kinda lose all enthusiasm for it. definitely some funny bits but there's very much a "dude staring at you while he plays his favorite Family Guy clips" vibe to it

when I discovered Xavier: Renegade Angel one of my first thoughts (outside of "what the fuck?") was "this is what Rick and Morty was trying to do"...feel like you can't just commit halfway to this sort of thing

how surprising

https://www.okayplayer.com/justin-roiland-grooming-allegations