Sight and Sound 2022 Top 20

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gosford park borders on remake in places, but assume that's not the milieu in question

hard not to find yourself in nashville tho even if fleetingly

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link

he's one of those directors who captures the smell of air and grass.

Yes, this is what I love about A Day in the Country. You could probably do a whole piece just on rivers in Renoir films.

Sesonske’s writings on these films are good – he likes finding mythic and pagan themes in Renoir, e.g. Marceau in The Rules of the Game as a Pan type who invades the castle and then retreats to the woods in the end.

jmm, Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:10 (one year ago) link

or Boudu.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link

Nora Gregor's terrible!

lol, okay that's fair, I wasn't really thinking of her. I was more thinking of Lisette, Robert, Marceau, all the party guests (how common was it to have a sympathetically portrayed gay character in this period?)

Even so, the film is able to absorb her performance. Christine is supposed to have a conspicuous accent and be a bit out of her element, someone who doesn’t seem to possess much guile, which is why they all think they can keep the affair between la Chesnaye and Geneviève from her. She turns that to her advantage a few times. I love how everyone is delighted by her little speech where she declares that she and Andre spent so many afternoons "sous le signe si rare de l'amitié" while meanwhile Dalio is mugging like crazy right next to her.

jmm, Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link

mugging with relief and terror

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link

I don’t think there’s a director with a fuller trove than Renoir. Boudu, M. Lange, Day in the Country, Rules, the River, Le petit theatre … even something like Grande illusion, which I love about as much as I can possibly love a war movie

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link

Buñuel and Ozu maybe, yes

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link

I've watched Elena and Her Men three times in the hopes that it'll click. I know it will.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 January 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link

I managed to totally forget Golden Coach and French Can Can … what a career

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:05 (one year ago) link

french can can is a riot

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link

I still have a lot left to see. La Marseillaise was not great, as I recall.

jmm, Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link

Nobody mentioned La Chienne yet?

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link

I did.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link

Oh, okay, I see now./zingproblems

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 January 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link

La chienne is one I need to watch again. In my memory, it’s bested by Scarlet Street.

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 12 January 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link

Just got La Chienne from the library.

jmm, Thursday, 12 January 2023 22:31 (one year ago) link

La Chienneis one of my favorite Renoir films, it is very cynical and hard-bitten. Lulu and Dédé are conning Legrand, a clerk at a Parisian hosiery firm, and taking him for a ride. He eventually realizes he has been duped and

I won’t say what happens after that.

It is a noir film that anticipated the concept of film noir

Dan S, Friday, 13 January 2023 01:45 (one year ago) link

Poetic realism innit.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 13 January 2023 11:14 (one year ago) link

Another great role for and performance from Michel Simon.

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 January 2023 12:08 (one year ago) link

Maybe it's seeing them on so many scratched 16mm prints and bad video transfers 30 years ago that has left the Renoir films seeming so dusty in my mind.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 13 January 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link

a scratched 16mm print sounds like a beautiful way to watch a renoir

devvvine, Friday, 13 January 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link

The beginning of La Bete Humaine with Gabin and Carette wordlessly operating the train is so good.

Chris L, Friday, 13 January 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link

I discovered Bunuel thanks to bad video transfers. My uni had every Mexican film on terrible VHS. I binged in the '90s.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 January 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link

on a formal level la nuit du carrefour is essential renoir imo, sublime and uncanny

devvvine, Friday, 13 January 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link

Get on those Criterion versions!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 January 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link

I discovered Bunuel thanks to bad video transfers. My uni had every Mexican film on terrible VHS. I binged in the '90s.

OTM. Illusion travels by bad video transfer!

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 January 2023 16:55 (one year ago) link

It also travelled to the heel of Italy and then back to the FIDI Alamo Drafthouse.

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 January 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

The local library's VHS copy of Hiroshima Mon Amour was so fuzzy that I didn't realize I was actually coming down with flu while watching it, I thought it just looked that way.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 13 January 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

Everything had haloes.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 13 January 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link

Hell of a story wrt La Chienne

In the film Michel Simon falls in love with Janie Marèse, and he did off-screen as well, while Marèse fell for Georges Flamant, who plays the pimp. Renoir and producer Pierre Braunberger had encouraged the relationship between Flamant and Marèse in order to get the fullest conviction into their performances (La Chienne was Flamant's first acting experience). After the film had been completed Flamant, who could barely drive, took Marèse for a drive, crashed the car and she was killed. At the funeral Michel Simon fainted and had to be supported as he walked past the grave. He threatened Renoir with a gun, saying that the death of Marèse was all his fault. "Kill me if you like", responded Renoir, "but I have made the film".[2]

omar little, Friday, 13 January 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link

christ

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 13 January 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link

Forgot about that.

Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 January 2023 17:52 (one year ago) link

:(

ꙮ (map), Friday, 13 January 2023 17:53 (one year ago) link

Very French

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 13 January 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link

Ah ha. Back to the Copacabana.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 January 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link

Wow, that is a strange story. Michel Simon's Legrand faints during the sentencing in the film as well.

jmm, Saturday, 14 January 2023 04:36 (one year ago) link

Ended up voting for SITR, tho Kiarostami and Ozu are strong contenders too.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 14 January 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link

Watching Beau Travail again, I thought, Claire Denis could do Paul Bowles justice.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 January 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

La Chienne was good. I like the seediness of the art world - basically no distinction between the pimps, critics, and art dealers.

I am puzzled on one plot detail: Is it supposed to be ambiguous whether Maurice killed Lulu? It looked to me like the knife fell on the bed and neither of them saw it, so I thought that she had accidentally been cut. The Wiki plot description says that he attacks her with the knife. But we don't see it happen; instead there's that strange cut to the outdoor scene and a kitten outside. I guess it's more explicit in the novel, probably.

jmm, Saturday, 14 January 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link

Pulled the trigger for Close-Up but Rules of the Game was the closest of seconds, followed by Dielman

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 11:08 (one year ago) link

Missed this earlier this month:

RIP Michael Snow (1928-2023)

He cast his votes for the Greatest Films of All Time in the 2022 #SightAndSoundPoll, selecting four films, three of which are his own pic.twitter.com/d8bVeVk2G3

— Sight and Sound magazine (@SightSoundmag) January 6, 2023

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 12:16 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 19 January 2023 00:01 (one year ago) link

Watched the first 30 seconds of Seven Samurai last night

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 January 2023 00:33 (one year ago) link

Just kidding

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 January 2023 00:33 (one year ago) link

I liked what Ebert said, that Seven Samurai "represents a great divide in his work; most of his earlier films … subscribe to the Japanese virtues of teamwork, fitting in, going along, conforming. All his later films are about misfits, noncomformists and rebels.”

Dan S, Thursday, 19 January 2023 00:47 (one year ago) link

it still wouldn't be in my top 10 for this poll, though

Dan S, Thursday, 19 January 2023 00:51 (one year ago) link

I have made sure that some of you will be aghast when The Godfather's one vote places it above films you love.

clemenza, Thursday, 19 January 2023 01:09 (one year ago) link

lol, that is sure to be the case for In the Mood for Love

Dan S, Thursday, 19 January 2023 01:18 (one year ago) link

re In the Mood for Love, “The food culture of 1960s Hong Kong plays a central role throughout the film. The lonely pair continue to run into each other at the dai pai dong, ordering noodles to eat by themselves while their respective spouses “work late.” Mrs. Chan offers to make taro soup for Mr. Chow. When a drunken landlord accidentally traps them together inside Mr. Chow’s bedroom, they pass the time by eating.”

Dan S, Thursday, 19 January 2023 01:19 (one year ago) link

I have probably seen seven samurai over a dozen times and I will likely watch it again this year

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 January 2023 03:29 (one year ago) link


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