Sight and Sound 2022 Top 20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWH7oPBnD9s

lol, the snorers at moma are legendary

My entire family has apnea. The field recordings you could make when we all sleep in one hotel room ...yikes

THE THAI FILMMAKER Apichatpong Weerasethakul encourages audiences to sleep during his films. “Entering a movie theatre is not unlike entering a dream,” he said in one interview. “Films hypnotize us and take us to new worlds. Sleeping and films are like twin realities.”

https://thebaffler.com/latest/apichatpong-the-memorious-zhou

lol, i've never seen that but it's very gratifying!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaZRSQfFo8Y

Morbs’ take that 2001 is an optimistic film because it looks forward to something beyond humanity is a characteristic and correct take
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.),

Yes, the attitude is, "There's gotta be something better than this."

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Hmm, not a correct take, sorry. This is the kind of attitude being exploited by billionaires that are building rockets on the back of the exploitation of others when what's better for them is to have their assets confiscated and for them to work the land.

Basically all we need is right here.

isn't it, like, a metaphor

I'm not saying I agree, xyzzz, sorry.

it sounds like a reasonable enough take on the film 2001, if not necessarily on how the planet should be managed

xyzzz, there'a way to have a conversation without constantly using variations on "You're wrong" and "Not correct." I'm sure I'm the only one who agrees -- and I don't even like 2001.

never mind the dystopia doesn't 2001 as story - which is probably the least of it as a movie anyway - belong to a Freudian "humanity the abandoned child looking for its daddy" strain of SF

I mean there's a big baby and everything

See also AI, which is “in dialogue” with 2001 on this topic, as they say.

This strangely neglected topic.

Robot boy wants his mommy, waits aeons in suspended animation until finally he is granted his wish by more advanced aliens - or alien robots? - who deliver her to him in resurrected form, if only for 24 hours

It’s almost like good art can bear a multitude of interpretations.

But I suspect xyzzz is being a bit troll-y and “ain’t I stinker” about this whole thing so I’m not sure it’s worth engaging with said poster on this topic.

2001 elides questions of ownership - who's funding all this?

it's v clear the answer is "the state, in partnership w pan am"-- that is, the good ol mil-ind-com

Kubrick, if not Clarke, might have better anticipated the rise of the despotic billionaire spaceship owner/controller

would this movie really be better if they had howard hughes onboard

should benoit blanc have come too

Ahm sorrih Dave. Ahm afraid ah can't doo that,

Ah say, ah say, ah say Dave

i do p much agree w alphie that the movie's suggestion that specieswide transformation and victory in our historic confrontation with the hal-thing is something we need to go to jupiter for is an opiate, and that in this way the movie's a reflection of the values of the v age it is critiquing. (i mean that's kinda what things... do, tho.) still i enjoy thinking abt that confrontation i guess, and usually do say yes when someone asks if i'd enjoy something i already enjoy but in space.

Don’t think he likes to be called that.

apologies if so! a hollow voice says doh.

wait who are we talking about/to

my last was in response to xyzzz re: exploration, space travel, palpitating the pebbles of an alien world etc

Morbs’ take that 2001 is an optimistic film because it looks forward to something beyond humanity is a characteristic and correct take

― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, January 10

Agree with this. I also like its imagining a more advanced civilization guiding our evolution

Hmm, not a correct take, sorry.

LOL

OK, then.

It seems to me that Clarke's vision--and it comes through more clearly in the book than it does in the film--is that the "star child" is the next step in human evolution, prompted (again) by the monolith and whatever mysterious force is behind it. As a vision of the human future, it's quite optimistic, if a bit chilly.

Hmm, not a correct take, sorry.

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, January 10, 2023 4:09 PM (three hours ago)

Well, you should know

I've traced the post ... the starchild is coming from inside the thread!

This is your moderator etc.

Do not attempt to adjust your television set.

Have you all spent the entire day talking about 2001?

Worth it

touché

Just wait until we talk about Andrei Rublev.

There's like 15 more of these to get through - someone post something snotty about Cléo

Starchild grew up to be a Starman iirc. Then fell to earth.

And started a war

lol clem

There's like 15 more of these to get through - someone post something snotty about Cléo

The never-made Madonna remake would have owned.

xyzzz, there'a way to have a conversation without constantly using variations on "You're wrong" and "Not correct." I'm sure I'm the only one who agrees -- and I don't even like 2001.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 bookmarkflaglink

That's a bit weird. I gave my take on why I thought it wasn't doing it for me. I don't really like art that says "there is something better out there than this".

Hmm, not a correct take, sorry.

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, January 10, 2023 4:09 PM (three hours ago)

Well, you should know

― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 bookmarkflaglink

You haven't watched The Last Samurai. Please.

Never mind the seven of them.

someone post something snotty about Cléo

The silent film pastiche is poorly observed and executed - Godard never did anything else half as embarrassing. Vagabond rules much harder.

the thought of anyone trying to adapt HdW's The Last Samurai fills me with both intense joy and despair, don't think anyone could pull it off

set it in space. Ludo is the real starchild

DeWitt would sue that stupid idea, it would never get off the ground.

Rewatched La règle for something like the fifteenth time. It is insane how good it is. Just wonderful acting on every level, even the smallest roles.