those are two of his best roles, but I also like the more unrestrained performances in the samurai/ronin films (Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, Sanjuro)
― Dan S, Sunday, 8 January 2023 00:25 (one year ago) link
_If you can't deal with Mifune's performance style, Kurosawa will never be for you._He's a great actor who's so much more tolerable when he keeps the lid on, like in _High and Low_ and _The Bad Sleep Well_.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link
Didn’t really need to quote, sorry.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 00:36 (one year ago) link
To the question of why I’ve never seen Seven Samurai, the answer is I don’t want to
I admire this decisiveness, sort of, but I'm a slave to polls of this kind, especially if they're consensus-based and I'm familiar with most of the entries already. I'd have to have a big prejudice against a film I haven't seen on a list like this not to add it to my informal "should watch" list.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:11 (one year ago) link
My Hitchcock top five today:
NotoriousStrangers on a TrainRear WindowSabotagePsycho
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 02:47 (one year ago) link
2001 slander made me pull the trigger for it
― sault bae (voodoo chili), Sunday, 8 January 2023 03:29 (one year ago) link
_To the question of why I’ve never seen Seven Samurai, the answer is I don’t want to_I admire this decisiveness, sort of, but I'm a slave to polls of this kind, especially if they're consensus-based and I'm familiar with most of the entries already. I'd have to have a big prejudice against a film I haven't seen on a list like this not to add it to my informal "should watch" list.
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 January 2023 05:39 (one year ago) link
Cannot believe ppl are questioning Mifune when there is a Marlon Brando "performance" in here.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 08:20 (one year ago) link
xp: funnily enough I love the role Seven Samurai plays in Helen DeWitt's The Last Samurai, where the single mother looks to show the film to her son as a father figure substitute.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 08:24 (one year ago) link
Apocalypse Now is an enjoyable enough movie I guess but the thought of it being in somebody's top 200 of anything is just boggling my mind
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:03 (one year ago) link
It's ok, when it's on TV I will watch an hour of it.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:06 (one year ago) link
depending on the day it would be de jeu, searchers or dielman. today it's renoir.
― devvvine, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:07 (one year ago) link
Might vote for Cléo to be annoying
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:11 (one year ago) link
It's not as annoying as not watching Seven Samurai because you've been traumatised by film bro polls.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:14 (one year ago) link
tbf it's not the best Kurosawa or the best samurai movie even
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:15 (one year ago) link
It wouldn't be in my top 20 or my favourite Kurosawa, but it's so much more fun than watching Americans go on about Apocalypse now as a Vietnam War 'statement'.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:18 (one year ago) link
as i say AN to me is the most ridiculous entry - maybe the only ridiculous entry - in the list. how many 18 year old boys vote in this thing?
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:21 (one year ago) link
Twenty-one-year-old film bros are worse than 18-year-olds.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:28 (one year ago) link
it's all a long distant memory to me
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:34 (one year ago) link
I prefer yojimbo and hidden fortress to seven samurai but that doesn't make it anything close to mediocrity
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:49 (one year ago) link
I think Ikiru should be the consensus pick, less of the trad masc concerns and also a better intro as not four hours long. That said I do love SS and if this was a best ever director poll I think Kurosawa would be my guy.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 8 January 2023 11:03 (one year ago) link
I'm terrible with Kurusawa, usually I always rewatch his samurai movies that I've seen umpteen times already rather than his more subtle masterpieces, but his samurai movies rule so much!
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 11:15 (one year ago) link
We all love Kurosawa. It's settled! *bangs gavel*
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 12:50 (one year ago) link
Finally managed to score a copy of the mag, a single solitary copy in McColl's in Govan! Citizen Kane cover - of course I wanted the Jeanne Dielman, but the mag does reproduce this amazing pic as a full page:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGMdzURWwAErD7r.jpg
They give a selection of the director ballots only, no critics. Good lists - by which I mean, introduced me to films I'd not heard of before - from Khalik Allah, Radu Jude, Alexandre Koberidze, Alice Rohrwacher, Peter Strickland, Apichatpong Weerasethakul. An all-French list from Wes Anderson with some interesting choices. Fun list from Terence Davies, including two Doris Day films. Wouldn't have expected Peter Greenaway to choose Blade Runner.
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:01 (one year ago) link
Nice! Love that picture!
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:22 (one year ago) link
Really want to vote for something that includes jokes, which narrows things down pretty severely
― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link
seven samurai it is
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:07 (one year ago) link
Ikiru is pish, Dersu Uzala is my kurosawa joint
― or something, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:12 (one year ago) link
I haven't seen that one, and of his late stuff only seen Kagemusha and Ran - so some serious gaps there.
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link
I like Dreams too, only seen 6 or 7 myself
― or something, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link
there was a feature on bbc radio about the Rashomon influence on modern tv drama, it had the opposite effect of interesting me in watching any of this stuff or even the original again!
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:25 (one year ago) link
They're doing the complete Kurosawa at the BFI right now. I caught One Wonderful Sunday - Kurosawa does Capra kinda, doesn't entirely work but there's some good stuff in there. At one point the female protagonist breaks the fourth wall and starts begging the viewers to clap for her husband and for all the young couples trying to make a living in postwar Japan, they need the help. No cunt clapped.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:26 (one year ago) link
all clapped out in the UK
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link
every time someone types "influence" mark s gets his wings
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:30 (one year ago) link
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 January 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
Ope sorry, my gavel broke
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
Study, study, screen, screen, or bonk bonk on the head!
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link
Lol, Alfred.
Really curious about Terence Davies’s list, especially the two Doris Days.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link
I voted Vertigo. My relationship to it was pretty organic thankfully. Bought a vhs tape at around 17 without ever having seen it before, or very many classic movies at all, and became obsessed without totally understanding why. Probably almost wore out that tape. Only later did I discover becoming obsessed with Vertigo was practically a cliche. But that’s where my love of movies started and it’s pretty much the experience I’m always hoping to have again every time I go to a movie.
I’ll go to bat for Apocalypse Now! I mean, in that I think it’s great, not top 20 of all time great though.
2001 probably one of the funnier options here?
― ryan, Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link
I use the first 10 minutes of Apocalypse Now because the match cuts, fades, sound design, and POV storytelling lend themselves to that sort of context.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:25 (one year ago) link
Use them in class, that is.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link
When I talk or think about Kubrick I almost place 2001 in mental brackets, it’s so, ahem, monolithic, that I unconsciously shunt it off to the side when contemplating the killing, the shining, paths of glory, eyes wide shut, etc. But I do love it. I’m sorry but HALs death is an astonishing moment, dancing spaceships, the light show, the star child, it’s just a fun fucking movie.
― ryan, Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link
I watched the end of In the Mood for Love (another movie I’ve watched too many times) and I’ll be damned if the ending sequence didn’t fucking floor me for the first time in years.
― ryan, Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link
I'm digging your posts, ryan.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link
I took my mom to lunch yesterday and talked about these moves. There’s a famous story in my family that my dad took my mom to see 2001 on their first anniversary. She hates it to this day.
I described Jeanne Dielman to her and she immediately went home and watched it. Got some amusing text messages.
― ryan, Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link
Every time I think I'm skeptical of 2001 I watch it again and it's always great. Most recently watched it with the kids, who — despite being raised on MCU/new Star Wars/etc — were totally engrossed. It's not a personal favorite or a movie that does much for me emotionally, but it is a stellar (ha) piece of filmmaking.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link
Makes me wish for his Napoleon movie
― ryan, Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link
Maybe part of the issue is that with almost all his other movies you can kinda have this personal relationship to it, your own take, etc….but 2001 belongs to everyone, for better or worse. I can’t imagine it being anyone’s “favorite” movie, or even favorite Kubrick.
― ryan, Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link
I'm going to hold off on trying it again until I can see it on the big screen.
One of the repertory theatres near here is showing Jeanne Dielman in a few weeks. Gonna be lit.
― jmm, Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link
also how most scenes are short but some are extended
― Dan S, Saturday, 25 March 2023 01:57 (one year ago) link
I can’t claim to have noticed the innovative techniques. Not sure if it would’ve changed my impression, which is that the film was less entertaining than Chungking Express, Days of Being Wild, Happy Together or Fallen Angels.
― o. nate, Saturday, 25 March 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link
I haven’t seen it since it was in theaters but Dan’s analysis seems to me otm. Will hopefully find some time in my busy schedule to rewatch soon/pvmic
― Old Man Reacts to Cloud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 March 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link