U.S. Politics January 2023: Kevin McCarthy's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Life

right, but criticizing rhetoric which exactly echoes the rhetoric of a former apartheid state in support of a present-day one seems extremely fair

jeffries was my state assemblyman at one point, i shouldve befriended him i could be bigtime now

instead im debating weather its ok to make fun of embarrassing speeches, sad

a rhetorical tour de force

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My main takeaway from Jeffries' speech last night was that, while the specific rhetorical flourishes might have been a little cringey, it was nice to see a Democratic leader with a some energy now that the old guard has stepped aside. (The Israel speech is pretty wack, tho.)

criticizing rhetoric which exactly echoes the rhetoric of a former apartheid state in support of a present-day one seems extremely fair

right you are. we're all in violent agreement there.

jeffries is younger than pelosi but has her exact politics, its real bad dems need better leadership but these corporate dems arent gonna go quietly

Did somebody itt actually watch a politician make a speech?

Because that is how they get you!!

its true they got me i admit it

i watched them, but i said "...yeah right!!" a bunch to subvert the system

i couldn't contain my excitement as the ABC's of democracy speech neared the Z's. from kindergarten and 1st grade, i know that it would like involve Zest, Zippiness, and Zany. I was really impressed by Jeffries' working around those stale old standby Zs, and now i believe that the sun is rising on america

lol silby otm

You really cannot ever risk listening to any of these people speak

sheep herding dogs are the politicians of the grazing world. they bark "my friends! my friends!" and the sheep run

WAKE UP SHEEPLE

wake up sheepies

I didn't mind corporate Dem Pelosi herding the House, I do mind Jeffries herding the House as a McCarthy-style gladhandler but with worse corporate credentials

now that the old guard has stepped aside

Feinstein ain't going nowheres

on some level what they do in the house short term doesnt matter that much since the senate is technically worse, where the corporate centrists really do their damage long term promotion of other corporate dems, backing them in primaries promoting them in leadership and so forth which not only maintains corporate centrist hegemony over the party but also creates a dem party that doesnt stand for anything or at least not anything good, which then causes people to not like them

Have yourself a merry little revolution.
Overthrow the state. Take advantage of the chaos. But make sure the right don't take the reins.
Some timely and helpful advice like innit

Less a “carrot and stick”and more of an expansion of Title 42 for new nationalities. Combining limited parole with hundreds of thousands of expulsions isn’t going to meaningful change options for people who have no choice but to migrate by land. https://t.co/azNFaWmCXR

— Andrea R. Flores (@Arosaflores) January 5, 2023

While most were following the House drama, Biden instituted some tighter Trump-like immigration rules (expansion of T 42 to more ) that make his national security folks happier, but not those seeking asylum. The Washington Post plays along and calls it a pivot to a centrist immigration policy (but its one that is more conservative than centrist and still won't please most)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-biden-title-42-expansion-legal-path-migrants/

Breaking overnight — The Biden administration will unveil today a "carrot and stick" border strategy, expanding both the Title 42 expulsions for those who enter illegally and a process that allows migrants to come to the U.S. legally if they have sponsors.https://t.co/qRn16wgGeX

— Camilo Montoya-Galvez (@camiloreports) January 5, 2023

http://imgur.com/aIUYqn6
"no you take YOURS out first"

The Miami Herald is all about immigration today because, well, they're all coming here.

Yea my mom got in an argument with me when I shouted about the border policy.

For some it truly is "I judge its quality by who did it"

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In an ideal world, Biden would be pushing for hiring more folks to process and hear asylum claims, and also setting up a system along the border to handle everything on the ground to reassure those who live in border areas (and hear from Fox News that everyone coming is an illegal and a criminal). Obama's many deportations didn't win over independents and Republicans, and this new Biden approach isn't likely too either. Although without a significant Dem majority in the Senate and no control of the House, Biden is limited a bit.

It is telling that migrants trying to come to the US because of wars and:or instability we aided and abetted are being turned away while whiter migrants whom allow the US to create a scapegoat are fine, just fine. (Note that I am fine with all migrants)

The Miami Herald is all about immigration today because, well, they're all coming here.

Most of the immigrants landing in Florida are Cuban -- we don't want'em either!

If only someone made the connection between the need for a large workforce to process asylum claims... and a large influx of potential workers from immigration.

Nah, too obvious

can someone explain the santos questionable hand gesture thing to an ignorant dumbass such as myself?

(i mean i know the "okay" thing has been co-opted by dickheads, but wtf is santos doing? is he just a huge fucking troll and i've been had by even giving it this much thought?)

A Milo wannabe who somehow ended up in Congress?

oh fuck that. yuck, nvm. sorry i asked.

(is that really what r's want? jfc.)

(tho maybe santos is playing the long con and after a couple years of this nonsense he'll be all like, "lol you dumbass r's will vote for anything!")

Most of the immigrants landing in Florida are Cuban -- we don't want'em either!

Interesting I guess how Florida Cubans have gone from "only allow Cubans in" to their current Fox News stance

They haven't. It's been the case since Mariel.

Cubans hate other Cubans just like olde immigration groups hate new ones for perceived advantages. It was ever thus.

[They haven't. It's been the case since Mariel.

do non-Hispanic Americans even know about Mariel, for the most part? I worked a Spanish-speaking hospital unit where we had plenty of dudes who'd come over on what they called "Marielito" but I wonder if non-wonky types are hip to what a moment it was

Embarrassed to say I learned it from a Pitbull album title

Some folks read Joan Didion

do non-Hispanic Americans even know about Mariel, for the most part? I worked a Spanish-speaking hospital unit where we had plenty of dudes who'd come over on what they called "Marielito" but I wonder if non-wonky types are hip to what a moment it was

There were two Cuban dudes, Gus and Eddie, who worked at an auto parts store with me in the early 90s and they hated each other; Gus would give Eddie endless amounts of shit because Eddie had come over in the boatlift (he was crazy, but not so crazy that he couldn't hold a job) while Gus had come before that.

I really can't express to you my parents' generation hatred towards any level of Cuban immigration arriving after they did because (a) they have it easier (b) many of them game the system by getting disability or using their Miami relatives' benefits or income to send back to Cuba.

I don't think Americans get this. That's why "immigration" as an issue for Dems to use against Republicans is so lol to me. They don't get the subtleties of resentment.

hell, Bill Clinto still hates Carter because Carter sent marielitos to Arkansas camps in 1980, costing him (he thinks) the governorship.

*Clinton

No I like Clinto better

He hated Carto.

Guillermo Clinto

I don't think Americans get this. That's why "immigration" as an issue for Dems to use against Republicans is so lol to me. They don't get the subtleties of resentment.

giant truthbomb re: American political discourse on all sides of the spectrum here