Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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thank you, i thought that too but either i have impossible fat guy fingers or something's off because it doesn't expand.

it's not a super huge discrepancy. just... kind of disappointing the lack of accessible info/credits ob the platform.

i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 03:12 (one year ago) link

ob

okay nvm, it's definitely my stubby fingers.

i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 03:14 (one year ago) link

Another unintentionally glitchy album: Doris Monteiro (1974).

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 5 January 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link

Been having a new problem during the past week. I'll be listening to a full album and then the app jumps to a song that's not in the album, but maybe Spotify thinks is similar.

For instance, last night I was listening to Dua Lipa's Future Nostalgia. After the song Pretty Please, it segued into Miley Cyrus (feat. Dua Lipa) song Prisoner. This song is featured on an expanded edition of Future Nostalgia (not the version I was listening to), but the one I got had the art for the Miley Cyrus album.

Then this morning, I put on Pink Floyd's Animals. After Pigs on the Wing (Part One), Spotify shifted to Strange Brew by Cream, a song that I can guarantee I've never listened to on the app.

This has happened one or two other times in the past week. Has anyone else experienced it? I'm wondering if there's a setting or something that I need to toggle.

peace, man, Thursday, 19 January 2023 12:30 (one year ago) link

there's the autoplay thing? first thing I turn off

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 19 January 2023 12:40 (one year ago) link

So it looks like Autoplay was turned on somehow (I didn't do it). Hopefully, that will solve it. In the past when I've had autoplay turned on, it would wait until the end of an album to start spewing recommendations at me. That was bad, but in these cases, it has changed to recommendations in the middle of albums, and I'm wondering if they can be brought before The Hague over this.

peace, man, Thursday, 19 January 2023 12:52 (one year ago) link

spotify is CONSTANTLY turning autoplay back on. very naughty stat juicing

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 January 2023 12:59 (one year ago) link

Aren't they better off the less you play? Like a gym.

Haven't had this issue... across Android, Windows, and Linux

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 19 January 2023 13:01 (one year ago) link

lol I was listening to... To Pimp A Butterfly i think? and out of nowhere, like halfway through the album, it plays me the Staple Singers' "Respect Yourself". and then just slips back into the album. okay. I mean.. it's a great song. But for a few seconds I was like man, I don't remember Kendrick sampling this!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 January 2023 13:03 (one year ago) link

Queued up by you previously? Or someone else is also on the account. Really weird

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 19 January 2023 13:06 (one year ago) link

Tracer - glad to hear I'm not the only one. It's very jarring.

In my case, I'm the only user of this login.

peace, man, Thursday, 19 January 2023 13:50 (one year ago) link

would be logging into the website and checking "devices" and whatnot

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:03 (one year ago) link

I’m on a family plan, everybody has their own accounts. It’s only happened once to me, and it was last week.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 January 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link

Sorry if this has been asked before (I searched but there are lots of iterations of what I'm asking) but is there any way to see who has Liked your playlist, and if not, why not/is this something that's in development?

Indexed, Thursday, 19 January 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

Dream feature list: a "donate" button on every track/album/artist that would allow me to charge my card and directly contribute $x to an artist

Indexed, Thursday, 19 January 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link

Little Pitcher, Big Wallet: Eight Year Old Maxs Out Parent's Credit Card with Donations to Lil Yachty
"It was for the lolz," naughty kiddo says

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 January 2023 23:27 (one year ago) link

I believe the donate button already exists, artists have to set it up themselves https://artists.spotify.com/en/help/article/fan-support

vice did an article a while ago https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7qqw3/spotify-tip-jar-donations-fair-pay-royalties-musicians

corrs unplugged, Friday, 20 January 2023 08:16 (one year ago) link

No way! That's awesome...but I can't actually find how to donate to any of the artists named in that article? Anyone know where this is hidden?

Also hope this does not affect anyone here:
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/23/spotify-to-cut-6percent-of-its-workforce-as-tech-layoffs-continue.html

Indexed, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link

oh maybe it was a covid-19 thing only? weird
seemed like a decent idea

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 07:50 (one year ago) link

When I listen to The Clientele a "donate directly to the artist" button pops up. I bung a fiver to them every now and then - although it's actually a PayPal account in the name of Alasdair MacLean so I guess he's the only one who gets the money!

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 08:15 (one year ago) link

Removing the like/heart button is a weird UI change

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 4 February 2023 00:54 (one year ago) link

They just changed it to +

what have I done to deserve you (lukas), Saturday, 4 February 2023 01:02 (one year ago) link

i feel like that's what it used to be!

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2023 06:44 (one year ago) link

all apps should replace the heart icon with a + or thumbs up. I do not love this random song by an Australian band that sounds like Imperial Teen, I like it okay but would mostly just like to flag it so I can look up their other stuff.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 6 February 2023 06:50 (one year ago) link

Anyone noticed spotify on iphone is taking time to load?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 12 February 2023 08:57 (one year ago) link

just noticed that on Wild Orchid’s same titled debut album from 1996 half of the tracks have some combination of songwriter(s) and producer(s) as the performing artist, instead of Wild Orchid itself.

(Wild Orchid, for reference, are the pop r&b girl group Fergie was in before she became a Black Eyed Pea - yes, I’m reading Tom Breihan’s Number Ones column on “London Bridge”)

i saw mommy kissing twink henry kissinger (breastcrawl), Monday, 13 February 2023 15:15 (one year ago) link

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— Katie Notopoulos (@katienotopoulos) February 13, 2023

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 13 February 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link

I hate that the latest update for mobile doesn’t seem to allow you to search for other people’s profiles. Is there a workaround this?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 16 February 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link

damn, gross company xp

omar little, Thursday, 16 February 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link

Oh wait it’s there, forget about it. You have to press enter in the search form for the “bubble autocomplete” to disappear.

I don’t like the autocomplete function… it makes it harder not easier for me.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 16 February 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link

In my Discover Weekly today: a track called "Coyote" by Urbxnxd, with generic artwork. It's the Joni Mitchell track from Heijra (which of course is not on this streaming service, along with most of her catalog). Nearly 10 million plays. Posted Feb 11, by "Retain Music Entertainment". Might want to look into that :)

Michael Jones, Monday, 20 February 2023 11:06 (one year ago) link

!

Tracer Hand, Monday, 20 February 2023 12:04 (one year ago) link

"circle game" too. same artist.

up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Monday, 20 February 2023 12:23 (one year ago) link

Not as popular as "their version" (i.e. rip and upload) of My Chemical Romance's "Dead", which has 139m plays. "Verified artist" too!

Michael Jones, Monday, 20 February 2023 12:31 (one year ago) link

The algorithm is recognising that it's the same track - if you look on the My Chemical Romance page the play count is also 139m for Dead. So who knows how much Urbxnd has actually made off the scam, but not as much as that!

Alba, Monday, 20 February 2023 12:44 (one year ago) link

Leopantforte is another one of these. A rip of Case of You.

If you go to the Spotify Artists page for Joni Mitchell, it shows "covers" by these artists. Leopantforte does a mean Nancy & Lee too.

Not entirely sure what's happened here - like a sort of cybersquatting. I assume this is nothing new, and Spotify are on the case.
I've had tracks with <100 plays pushed to my Release Radar before by artists called "Beck" or "Gas", but nothing quite like this.

Michael Jones, Monday, 20 February 2023 16:09 (one year ago) link

Just the other day, on a different service, I came across several random tracks titled "Mariah the Scientist," which come up when you search that artist's stuff (she seems to be a particular target for "spoofing," not sure why)

unknown blues singer (morrisp), Monday, 20 February 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link

Leopanforte, sorry.

And... also I notice that Circle Game, Coyote, Big Yellow Taxi, Both Sides Now and Case of You are about the only JM tracks that are actually available from their parent albums (everything else greyed out), and those are the songs that are being re-appropriated under these dummy artist accounts. So they are there for real, just also under a fake name.

Michael Jones, Monday, 20 February 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link

No, it's worse than that: the bootleg uploads are why they show up as available on their parent albums. I've reported these internally. People suck.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 20 February 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link

Oh wow. So is the scam that the bootlegger gets the stream count if people search for BYT by Joni and then play it?

groovypanda, Monday, 20 February 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link

If someone were to upload a bootleg of an album that has never been on Spotify, are there any automatic checks on the file to stop it? Like, I know Shazam's database covers more than Spotify's catalogue but is there some industry-standard rights management system that identifies copyrighted work?

Alba, Monday, 20 February 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

Glenn I was wondering... could one say something about what the most albumey album on Spotify is by looking at what albums have songs with the most even distribution of plays (which would indicate they are listened to back-to-back)? Or maybe albums with the closest relation between plays of first and final track?

Looking at Dark Side of the Moon (an albumey album if ever there was one) it seems like the album was started 78 million times (although some of those Speak To Me plays could obv come from playlists/shuffle) but only 22 million made it to the grand finale of "Eclipse" ;_;

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 08:50 (one year ago) link

Yeah, it's a sensible idea about albums that get played all the way through. It gets messy to calculate, in some cases, due to Deluxe Editions adding bonus tracks that aren't always easy to identify as non-original from the metadata (but the fans know). I do a variant on that kind of idea for my yearly Album Populism chart, which is underway for 2023 here:

https://everynoise.com/tview.cgi?source=album_populism_2023

I basically try to weight an album's popularity by how far through it listeners tend to get...

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link

so sorry to be like a jocky guy but there was this nfl football fan meme a few years back where they telling the teams to RUN THE DAMN BALL and i wanted to start a music one that was PLAY THE DAMN ALBUM.

a real thing that i've wondered about— how does it figure which album it directs the listener to from the artist's top 5? like on bob dylan, for example. one his top 5 is "like a rolling stone" and it directs you to highway 61 revisited. but what about all the people who listen to that song from bob dylan's greatest hits? do those count towards the overall total or do does that song have two sets of data, one for each release? i've also noticed that sometimes it will direct to a compilation from the top 5, even when the proper album (including that song) is available. the answers to these questions are quite tedious so i understand if.. well, you know.

up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 22:00 (one year ago) link

congratulations you've entered the first circle of the hell that is pop music metadata. i think glenn has probably visited all of them.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 22:17 (one year ago) link

lol

up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 22:29 (one year ago) link

used to live there, then made a deal with the devil to ferry other people across
(I swear I don't intend that as mean as it sounds)

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 23:11 (one year ago) link

those count towards the overall total or do does that song have two sets of data, one for each release?


Spotify definitely tries to combine the totals where it can: you can see this in the play count for a song often being the same on different albums where it appears. There are plenty of tracks where duplicates exist with separate play counts though - presumably because they are mastered differently enough for the the bits not to match.

I appreciate Spotify trying to add a tidying layer, but there's an associated issue involving much weirdness around Liked songs. Often I'll look at my Liked songs by an artist, then use the "view album" function for one of the tracks and find that on album view the very track that led me there is not marked as Liked! Liking it again, I can end up with the same song appearing twice in my Liked songs. Then, the worst thing, and I don't know if they've fixed this now but it's definitely happened many times in the past, if I then unlike one of the duplicates, it unlikes both of them and I have to add it again. Which fucks up my workflow for playlisting stuff for reasons I won't bore you with, as well as losing the record of when I actually first Liked something.

I have a feeling this bug has got even worse for me since moving back to the UK, in that things I Liked while I was in the US are on different versions of albums in Spotify's database or something. It's all quite frustrating but I struggle on.

Alba, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 06:39 (one year ago) link

xp thanks glenn, that's cool!

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 08:57 (one year ago) link

One thing really bugging me still is in the Friend Activity panel if you see they're listening to their 'Your Top Songs 2022' playlist if you click on that you get yours rather than theirs. I actually kinda hope that's a bug because surely people wanna see each others versions of this playlist?

nashwan, Wednesday, 22 February 2023 23:08 (one year ago) link


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