U.S. Politics January 2023: Kevin McCarthy's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Life

can Jeffries briefly pretend to be a racist bigot for 5 minutes and con people into votes

xp I don't think you'd go broke betting against their ever figuring that out.

how far does this go before McCarthy approaches Jeffries with help on a compromise?

Strom Thurmond nominated

i guess if i had to bet, i would only bet $1, and i would wildly speculate that the only person who the current house GOP could agree on is going to be someone who isn't in congress (e.g., Upton, and lol Trump)

again, i think the astonishing thing is that mccarthy already bent over backwards to show himself to have absolutely no spine and to make clear that white supremacists would be running the show. i don't know what else the freedom caucus could want, they got their ideal stooge to take the heat for their corruption

josh marshall:

One of the core dynamics here is that, McCarthy’s strategy was to give the radicals anything and everything. Because that was the case, he had nothing really left to give. That’s not the only dynamic here. But it’s an important part of this. He enabled them. They want to make trouble. And the only trouble left to make was to destroy McCarthy himself.

so McCarthy's already lost again. Too bad they have to go through the whole roll call.

the idea with these repeat votes is that people change their vote after they've made their point. is *anyone* changing their vote on this round?

yes, but not in a way that helps mccarthy. Good and Gosar went from supporting Biggs (lol) to Jordan.

(e.g., Upton, and lol Trump)

Upton Sinclair as house speaker? I like it!

xp that seems like progress for mccarthy given that jordan nominated him this round. not a lot admittedly.

Jim Jordan is a gigantic piece of shit. he nominated McCarthy again for this second round, and voted from him). but it seems likely that Jordan was aware that he would become an alternative candidate during this process. by nominating mccarthy and then voting for him during failed second vote, maybe Jordan's thought (his first one) is that he can later claim to be a consensus candidate that showed real support for mccarthy, etc, but ultimately had to bow to the GOP's will to choose Jordan instead, a role he would reluctantly accept out of respect to patriotism, etc etc

but it goes without saying that there is no way that Jordan will become speaker of the house. so that whole plan is doomed as well

they should elect McCarthy, then immediately vote to vacate the chair. that would be funnier

be hilarious if a bunch of people abstained and didn't realize that only a quorum of votes cast are required (not total members of the House), and Jeffries wins

as far as the '5 votes to introduce motion to vacate' thing goes, caek otm upthread that having 19 people vote against mccarthy in the first round suggests that it's an incredibly bad, short-sighted idea. if mccarthy ends up prevailing, i would guess that he'd just abandon that whole pledge. it hasn't been adopted yet, and he would be digging his own grave to allow it

a speaker of the House has never been removed and the ability for the House to do so is theoretically, based on a memo from Jefferson. it would probably get tangled up in Court.

*theoretical

i saw it described as handing every member an signed, undated resignation letter which sounds about right.

Jordan w/ 18 votes!

you can see the importance of the fraud from new york, george santos. the GOP needs every single vote during the next 2 years. they're already down to a 4-vote margin and you can see how that motivates the more openly corrupt members of the party. take that down to 3 votes and it gives them even more power, and it also adds to the annoyance of the GOP actually having to show up to vote, in person - all of them - for every vote for the next two years. if someone is sick, if someone's kid is getting married, if someone needs to appear at a white supremacist convention, anything at all that is very common for a GOP Rep., they have to instead do the last thing on earth that they ever wanted, which is to show up in DC and fulfill the bare minimum obligations of their office. it's a really hard time for them

Imagine being so dumb and bankrupt that you swear to all hell that Jordan of all people will come through for you. https://t.co/P3WF7Vi3T9

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) January 3, 2023

Jordan at 19. is that all it will be?

god I'm hoping some of the insane white supremacists don't know what a quorum is

I've been joking about Jeffries becoming speaker but my god

there's no way

and if did happen, holy shit don't go to a rural area for a while because things would get really frightening

Greek Chorus for speaker

clint eastwood's empty obama chair for speaker

going to third ballot lmao

Thus sucker's going to a sixth, seventh, and eighth ballot

Miami Sound Machine wrote a song about this

The wives have gone home, the congressmen are stuck making googoo eyes at the pages.

Jeffries - 212
McCarthy - 203
Jordan - 19

nobody budged, lol

i know this is incredibly dumb, but hear me out: what if one of them nominates "the constitution"

https://i.ibb.co/bXrYMNK/2023-01-03-15-18-23.jpg

" ... you don't think!"

“McCarthy agrees to provide caucus members Dove bars every night, personally, like Santa Claus”

hear me out: what if one of them nominates "the constitution"

Maga McFreedom-Eagle

We only need 131 more ballots to beat the record set in 1856

I’m skeptical that the recent trend of horrible people getting publicly dragged (musk, FTX, Tate) will continue for long but you have to enjoy this while it lasts

xp the thing about the 1856 vote is that there was a gentleman’s agreement to take a shot of whisky after each round. Arguably prolonged the process significantly, although it made that evening’s game of The Congressional Razz more captivating then ever

If we reach 44 rounds of balloting, take note of the context from this wiki note:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Flkx_qtWQAIxq2k?format=png&name=large

An election for speaker took place over the course of eight weeks, December 5, 1859 through February 1, 1860, at the start of the 36th Congress, following the 1858 / 59 elections in which the Republicans won a plurality of the seats. William Pennington, a freshman congressman, received a majority of the votes cast in the 44th ballot and was elected speaker. The bitter election dispute deepened the rift between slave states and free states and helped push Southern political leaders further toward secession.

none of them are sane/clever enough https://mastodon.social/@mtsw/109627048832223852

Conservatives will vote for Rep. Jim Jordan on the third ballot too, according to GOP Rep. Bob Good.

Good told CNN that he expects Jordan’s support to grow.

He said the fact that Jordan doesn’t want the gavel is “exactly” why they want him.

Hmm, I see Anthony Devolder's path to the speakership there. xps

xp The communicative skills on display here, truly inspirational