U.S. Politics January 2023: Kevin McCarthy's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Life

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🚨🚨 NEWS: Sources tell me TEAM MCCARTHY wants to move DIRECTLY into second ballot.

JORDAN making the rounds on the floor to whip his supporters.

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) January 3, 2023

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link

Final numbers:

MY UNOFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

Jeffries: 212
McCarthy: 203
Biggs: 10
Jordan: 6
Banks: 1
Zeldin: 1
Donalds: 1

MCCARTHY LOSES 19 ON FIRST BALLOT

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) January 3, 2023

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link

Biggs Banks, the lost No Limit Soldier

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link

Can't the GOP just split up right now instead of sometime in the not too distant future?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link

I think we have to wait until Trump announces his 3rd party run

epistantophus, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link

MCCARTHY acknowledges behind closed-doors there are likely 20 or so members voting against him, not 5

— Olivia Beavers (@Olivia_Beavers) January 3, 2023

Clearly a victory for McCarthy, since it was only actually 19.

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:03 (one year ago) link

McCarthy now visibly whispering (sweet nothings?) in MTG's ear

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link

So close to losing a full 10% of his caucus...

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link

Anything he promises results in the dilution of his power lol. This is all stupid. Meteor, hit us, please.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link

Really wanted "JORDAN making the rounds on the floor to whip his supporters" to end "with a wet gym towel."

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

Is Kevin McCarthy’s defeat Biden’s Katrina?

— New York Times Pitchbot (@DougJBalloon) January 3, 2023

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link

Korea, Career, Korea, whatever

What a weird year this already is

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link

OK, I've lost interest now

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link

would Jim JOrdan as speaker just help speed dissolution? I'm sure he'd focus on really important things.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:31 (one year ago) link

just got home after a few hours of not checking my phone. lol at him losing 19 votes. also lol at news that Jordan is trying to persuade his goon squad to vote for McCarthy, and instead, some of those goons are voting for Jordan instead. McCarthy has already lost this second round, as well.

looking forward to seeing how long Mccarthy's pledge to remove the wheel from his "car" and slam on the accelerator pedal will last

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link

So what's the play now? All the anti-McCarthy people vote for Jordan and then Jordan throws his votes to McCarthy?

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link

how does the second round work exactly

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

there is no plan, now. really, i don't think anyone knows. i don't know how this ever resolves, unless 19 people in mccarthy's own caucus suddenly figure out that they're incredibly dumb

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

can Jeffries briefly pretend to be a racist bigot for 5 minutes and con people into votes

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

xp I don't think you'd go broke betting against their ever figuring that out.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:44 (one year ago) link

how far does this go before McCarthy approaches Jeffries with help on a compromise?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:44 (one year ago) link

Strom Thurmond nominated

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link

i guess if i had to bet, i would only bet $1, and i would wildly speculate that the only person who the current house GOP could agree on is going to be someone who isn't in congress (e.g., Upton, and lol Trump)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link

again, i think the astonishing thing is that mccarthy already bent over backwards to show himself to have absolutely no spine and to make clear that white supremacists would be running the show. i don't know what else the freedom caucus could want, they got their ideal stooge to take the heat for their corruption

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:47 (one year ago) link

josh marshall:

One of the core dynamics here is that, McCarthy’s strategy was to give the radicals anything and everything. Because that was the case, he had nothing really left to give. That’s not the only dynamic here. But it’s an important part of this. He enabled them. They want to make trouble. And the only trouble left to make was to destroy McCarthy himself.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

so McCarthy's already lost again. Too bad they have to go through the whole roll call.

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link

the idea with these repeat votes is that people change their vote after they've made their point. is *anyone* changing their vote on this round?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:52 (one year ago) link

yes, but not in a way that helps mccarthy. Good and Gosar went from supporting Biggs (lol) to Jordan.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:54 (one year ago) link

(e.g., Upton, and lol Trump)

Upton Sinclair as house speaker? I like it!

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:54 (one year ago) link

xp that seems like progress for mccarthy given that jordan nominated him this round. not a lot admittedly.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link

Jim Jordan is a gigantic piece of shit. he nominated McCarthy again for this second round, and voted from him). but it seems likely that Jordan was aware that he would become an alternative candidate during this process. by nominating mccarthy and then voting for him during failed second vote, maybe Jordan's thought (his first one) is that he can later claim to be a consensus candidate that showed real support for mccarthy, etc, but ultimately had to bow to the GOP's will to choose Jordan instead, a role he would reluctantly accept out of respect to patriotism, etc etc

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:57 (one year ago) link

but it goes without saying that there is no way that Jordan will become speaker of the house. so that whole plan is doomed as well

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link

they should elect McCarthy, then immediately vote to vacate the chair. that would be funnier

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link

be hilarious if a bunch of people abstained and didn't realize that only a quorum of votes cast are required (not total members of the House), and Jeffries wins

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

as far as the '5 votes to introduce motion to vacate' thing goes, caek otm upthread that having 19 people vote against mccarthy in the first round suggests that it's an incredibly bad, short-sighted idea. if mccarthy ends up prevailing, i would guess that he'd just abandon that whole pledge. it hasn't been adopted yet, and he would be digging his own grave to allow it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link

a speaker of the House has never been removed and the ability for the House to do so is theoretically, based on a memo from Jefferson. it would probably get tangled up in Court.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:02 (one year ago) link

*theoretical

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:02 (one year ago) link

i saw it described as handing every member an signed, undated resignation letter which sounds about right.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link

Jordan w/ 18 votes!

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link

you can see the importance of the fraud from new york, george santos. the GOP needs every single vote during the next 2 years. they're already down to a 4-vote margin and you can see how that motivates the more openly corrupt members of the party. take that down to 3 votes and it gives them even more power, and it also adds to the annoyance of the GOP actually having to show up to vote, in person - all of them - for every vote for the next two years. if someone is sick, if someone's kid is getting married, if someone needs to appear at a white supremacist convention, anything at all that is very common for a GOP Rep., they have to instead do the last thing on earth that they ever wanted, which is to show up in DC and fulfill the bare minimum obligations of their office. it's a really hard time for them

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link

Imagine being so dumb and bankrupt that you swear to all hell that Jordan of all people will come through for you. https://t.co/P3WF7Vi3T9

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) January 3, 2023

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link

Jordan at 19. is that all it will be?

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link

god I'm hoping some of the insane white supremacists don't know what a quorum is

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link

I've been joking about Jeffries becoming speaker but my god

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link

there's no way

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link

and if did happen, holy shit don't go to a rural area for a while because things would get really frightening

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link

Greek Chorus for speaker

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link

clint eastwood's empty obama chair for speaker

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link

going to third ballot lmao

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link

Thus sucker's going to a sixth, seventh, and eighth ballot

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:15 (one year ago) link


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