yeah that Super Bowl was one of the most one-sided playoff ass kickings I've ever seen
― frogbs, Friday, 30 December 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link
drew bledsoe’s post-pats career was . . . serviceable? i would not have expected him to be 17th all-time in passing yards (ahead of fouts and montana). palmer is 15th!
― mookieproof, Friday, 30 December 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link
Bledsoe's post-Pats career was funny because it was very much informed by pre-conceived beliefs (myself included).
Like I remember how he came off of the bench during the AFC Championship when Brady got hurt, and the narrative was "shit, who does Belichick play in the Super Bowl? Brady's a game manager, and he's hurt, maybe he needs to ride the big arm for a potential shootout".
even after he wins, there's still a lot of haterade saying Brady's just a 'game manager', and Bledsoe gets HUGE money from the Bills, AND his team stomps the Patriots 31-0 in the opener, and people are talking like maybe the Patriots let wrong QB go, but Bledsoe's hot start cools off a bit, team doesn't make the playoffs, and he's fairly mediocre to bad for them after that. and Brady begins proving he's far from a 'game manager'.
granted, Patriots didn't make the playoffs that year either, but they'd win the next two Super Bowls after that
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 December 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link
the aughts were such a dire time for QBs, like who can believe people like Tommy Maddox and Chad Pennington were exciting the fans.
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 December 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link
tbh i want little more than to have my games managed
― mookieproof, Friday, 30 December 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link
Matt Ryan's legacy kind of a sad one, going from "28-3" to "33-0".
Bengals fans hated Dalton so much that many of them will turn on his games now just to laugh when he fucks up
Brunell was overpaid, dude was beat up from years of playing behind terrible o-lines, and going to Snyder-land rarely paid off for old veterans.
Rivers just hit a wall towards the end of his career where he just didn't have it anymore.
wouldn't be surprised at all if Russell Wilson rebounds a *bit* under a new coach, only in that it's hard to play worse than he did this year, and that under a better system, he might get back up to 'mediocre'.
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 December 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link
I'd take a guy who managed me into six Super Bowl wins.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 30 December 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link
I mean the "he's just a game manager in a good system" myth was obviously bullshit from probably his second season on, usually from hateful division rivals. there were years where he put up ridiculous numbers with absolute trash teammates on offense (2005 I think comes to mind). and moving to another team and winning a SB there in your 40s can pretty much put a cork in it, as painful as it was watching it happen.
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 December 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link
one of my fellow idiot Fin fans that used to be a columnist on a site I wrote for (and abandoned due to the idiocy) had the signature "Brady is a system quarterback, Marino was a SYSTEM" that he signed his posts with.
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 December 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link
I seem to remember Montana having a pretty great year for the 49ers but very different system over there
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 December 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link
xp I'm sure that made Tom Brady cry. It's hard to wipe your tears away with all those rings.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 30 December 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link
The year Peyton won the SB with Denver, I mean wow that was the sort of season Ryan Leaf could point to and say “see I was just as good as Peyton Manning.”
― omar little, Friday, 30 December 2022 21:17 (one year ago) link
lol yeah that was v much a Dilfer-type year for him
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 December 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link
actually probably worse than that
the funny thing about Warner is inbetween the Rams and the Cardinals he had that weird blip with the Giants
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 30 December 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link
yeah, where they benched him when the team was still fighting for a playoff position and then they crashed out with Eli playing as rookies often do
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 December 2022 21:26 (one year ago) link
while journeymen are specifically excluded, let us nevertheless also pay homage to:
vinny testaverde (seven teams, 16th all-time in passing yards)joe flacco (four teams, 19th)kerry collins (six teams, 20th)dave fucking krieg (six teams, 24th, got sacked so much)fitzmagic (nine teams, 34th)
― mookieproof, Saturday, 31 December 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link
well, maybe not flacco
― mookieproof, Saturday, 31 December 2022 03:20 (one year ago) link
Just looked, Moon is still #13 all time in NFL passing yards behind Elway and Stafford... Think about reasonable production for six more years if he had been in the NFL his whole career and he'd be flirting with the top 5.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 31 December 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link
Dan Fouts had a tale of Johnny U's lone season with the Chargers where they were on the road where they were going over to a teammates room to have a beer and they walked in on the a bunch of the players passing a joint. Unitas saw the scene and kinda backed out saying "I guess I went to the wrong room" or something of the like.
― earlnash, Saturday, 31 December 2022 22:22 (one year ago) link
Remember Warner's hand got busted up with the Rams and he was having all sorts of time losing the ball and fumbling - he did not have much grip in his passing hand. Some thought he was washed up but I he had a surgery and they got it straightened out before he had the late career surge with the Cardinals.
― earlnash, Saturday, 31 December 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link
Odd thing I remember about Stabler going to the Oilers was that Dan Pasterini went to the Raiders and as I remember right him getting hurt with the Silver and Black kind of opened the door for Plunkett (I think after Marc Wilson also got hurt too). It was kind of unusual to have the QBs trade teams like that even really now.
The old school NFL trade I was always curious about was the fact that Fran Tarkenton left the Vikings to go to some horrible Giants teams for a few years and then came back to Minnesota.
― earlnash, Saturday, 31 December 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link
Michael Vick had a couple very good seasons with the Eagles iirc
― symsymsym, Monday, 2 January 2023 02:37 (one year ago) link