showtime’s yellowjackets (2021 ‘til it inevitably falls apart)

I thought Lewis was terrible in this, like unwatchably bad and selfconscious.

hard agree

in another mood i could have probably gotten into the ultra-pulp of this but it felt like so little actually happened… the show is deliberately withholding lots of information in order to ratchet up the suspense and i prefer the other way - that you get the information you think you need - what does the symbol mean? who’s leaving it? who’s the girl in the pit? - and are then presented with FURTHER questions i.e. why, or how etc

lewis was ok, i thought, just paled in comparison to the actress who plays her younger self

I liked all the performances, incl Lewis. I find Misty genuinely terrifying, Christina Ricci is so so good in this

I generally think this is some 10/10 fantastic trash TV and the only thing I'm dubious of is where they're going with adult Taissa's arc

lewis was ok, i thought, just paled in comparison to the actress who plays her younger self

― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, December 20, 2022 6:58 AM (two hours ago)

totally yes!

I liked all the performances, incl Lewis. I find Misty genuinely terrifying, Christina Ricci is so so good in this

omg Misty -- otm!

idk, a lot of my enjoyment of this show is gendered. If this were a show about boys/cis-men, I wouldn't be as willing to accept certain imperfections, because these stories are generally about men. Probably because they were teenagers not too long after I was a teenager, the gender norms feel more salient to me? ... As opposed to just watching something solely from the vantage point of 2022 where there is a lot more gender equity in media

I just started watching this as well, just a couple episodes in. The animal killing and constant impalements make it a bit of a hard sell for my partner, but the triple timeline and soundtrack are pretty fun.

It is bananas to watch a show in which I know every word of every song that is sync'd

I anticipate the next seasons are going to be great.

I do hope that the showrunners/writers treat this more like an Agatha Christie murder mystery ("And Then There Were None", i.e.) rather then get too X-Files on us all. I dunno if this narrative world can carry too many supernatural elements or encounters with feral Quebeckers or "guess who's still alive in the present day?" reveals

My partner and I went back and forth on whether anything supernatural was occurring; there’s nothing too wild shown, and plenty that could be explained as the camera subjectively showing someone’s PTSD/hallucination/etc. rather than an objective depiction of supernatural phenomena.

I do hope that the showrunners/writers treat this more like an Agatha Christie murder mystery ("And Then There Were None", i.e.) rather then get too X-Files on us all.

agreed!

finally watching this and I enjoy bits and pieces of it but overall the number of storylines on this that I couldn’t give less of a shit about are staggering yet I am in for the long haul because obv I want to find out how they get to the cold open in the pilot

Christina Ricci is a lot of fun in this and Melanie Lynsky deserves better material

Also the music supervisors are as good at rationing their supply of 90s hits as the girls are at rationing food, yeesh

I think we bailed after three episodes, great hook but the writing just does not seem very good. :(

Coincidentally we're also watching I Love That For You, which also has Anna Waronker making fake (excellent) '90s songs.

ok i finished the season - show is pure pulpy trash and I love it

i got so triggered by the way the girls would gang up on each other & have those standoffs, even the way they would talk to misty felt verrry horribly familiar

mr veg was laughing/incredulous that Nat’s whole life / addiction was all so linked to Travis but in the flashbacks he treats her SO badly “like he’s never nice to her!”
and i was like dude that’s always how it works!!! high school boys are ~fucking rotted~ the more emotionally unavailable they are the more damage they’ll do.
like an out of control 18 wheeler leaving freeway pileups of girls in their wake lol

and i love the theme song

i was like dude that’s always how it works!!! high school boys are ~fucking rotted~ the more emotionally unavailable they are the more damage they’ll do.

otm!!! also it was super triggering ... like, it really is a horror tv series!

yeah like emotional horror and actual horror

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyTgg0fb9DA

man I really forgot a bunch of what happened on this show, the recap at the top of episode one helped a bunch but some of it's still pretty foggy.

is that a deaged or AI Loder?

just watched the first season of this show in time to start the second. first season is the show most targeted to my sensibilities i’ve ever seen. season 2 premiere was a lot of fun but my confidence in the show is sapped a little now that they’re introducing teens we’ve never seen before into the past timeline and pretending they were always there

i do love that the gay coach is the worst “adult in the room” ever

i am feeling the s2 opener
the more unhinged this shoe gets the more i enjoy it

i laughed at the papa roach garage moment but i wish it was candlebox or creed or Live or something generally more feels x slightly lame

*show

now that they’re introducing teens we’ve never seen before into the past timeline and pretending they were always there

ok thanks for confirming this; were they not even shown in the background in season 1? they looked utterly unfamiliar to me

they’re tailies

Adding my voice to the chorus of "How dare they"s re: introducing a new character and asking us to believe that NOT ONLY has she been there all along, but she was being so annoying offscreen that everyone is completely done with her bullshit by the time we meet her.

The one thing that might redeem the writers' weird choice there would be to keep the new character around until the team gets rescued, and then reveal that actually, she was a figment of Misty's imagination the entire time; it's Misty who everyone can't stand, Misty who has the compulsive singing tic; and how gullible can you viewers possibly be, that when a brand-new character appears unexplained among a group of starving delusional people trapped together in a cabin in the wilderness, you just blindly accept it?

I really hope e1 ends up being the worst of s2. It had its moments, but the way they kept cutting between the different plot threads and timelines (probably out of necessity, to get everything in motion for the season) felt super disjointed and unsatisfying.

Also I was glad that the show didn't sensationalize Lottie's ECT treatments as tv and movies have often done. The scene was pretty visceral and intense, but that's just how the sausage is made. I know some friends of mine have really benefited from it, but I wouldn't enjoy watching their sessions either.

ok i’m no longer worried. episode 2 was fucking amazing!!!!

That's good to hear. We weren't sure about episode one at all in our house. It was just kind of an unpleasant trudge.

Oh, turns out I thought episode two was an unpleasant trudge also. Maybe this show is not for me anymore.

Have just got myself up to date with this. I pretty much enjoyed all of s1, this season… the Sharon van etten in the opening montage was a shameless attempt to woo the poster wins market (& I also enjoyed the usage of angst in my pants in the latest ep)

For a show at the trashier end of mystery-box tv one thing i think they’ve done v well is give a real intensity to the flashback scenes that is then mostly deflated in the present day timeline (even as just as many outlandish things happen), the contrasting tones make the whole scars of adolescence metaphor pop way more than it should. I think the balance is a little off this season tho, which is maybe inevitable as they pile on more & more stuff

Only a brief glimpse but the casting of adult van seems perfect

Addressing a nitpick above, it seems like nat’s roots are growing in now (my own s1 nitpick is that canonically Jackie is the first person ever to say “mayor of pound town”, a thing annoying ppl would start saying like 10 years later)

I def view present-day Shawna differently

Hello adult Van - quick sidebar what the fuck is up with your cheesewagon video store name.
While You Were Streaming?
dude.
srsly.

Haha, works for me.

Adult Van + the 4 Non Blondes song = otm

flashback use of "bestie" = anachronism

I occasionally wonder if the anachronisms are clues that those things didn't actually happen

Also, the fact that Van runs a video store in what contextually (i.e. hitch-hiked all across Pennsylvania) could be Pittsburg -- I doubt it's a Videodrome reference, but my brain went there

also impressed & shocked that Jeff is able to call Shauna out on her boundaryless parenting & terrible decision making when shauna reveals “oh by the way i thought it was a good idea to tell our daughter everything”

love that jeff is like “what is wrong with you!?!? you MADE our DAUGHTER an ACCOMPLICE”

xp Haven’t seen the latest one but this doesn’t feel like a show that would leave those sorts of “clues”

Any period thing will have the odd anachronism but it’s honestly damning with this kind of stuff that’s so easy to check, like nobody piping up to ask “would anyone really say garbage fire 30 years ago” just comes across as insultingly lazy

(That’s a fake example but not really more egregious than the stuff that’s come up)

Or no, I think I am up to date — the last one I saw ended with the adult van reveal. I’m pirating so never sure what’s what

the hapless hijinks of Shauna + Jeff are really growing on me

yeah same; slowly gaining more of shaunas backstory makes their relationship more interesting to me, and kinda changes their dynamic

i guess the next big question is: the babby, how is it formed?

option 1 does not survive and is buried/cremated

option 2 they end up eating it, or at least part of it

option 3 Canadian equivalent of dingo gets it

A wendigo ate my baby

i am sure it will be suitably unhinged, whatever the case maybe

scene between lottie and nat this week is the show at its best

This season is dumb and bad but there are like three or four excellent moments per episode that keep me addicted

I think I would watch an entire movie just about Christina Ricci tbh

the actress (Samantha Hanratty) doing teen Misty really has the vibe locked in and it’s funny watching Ricci doing the adult version pretending she’s not the weirdo half the time

doing a terrible job pretending, obviously

And we found out why they introduced a new character in the early timeline.