pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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(I mean I guess pop music can "progress," in a purely descriptive sense, in terms of incorporating new styles, production elements etc. – but that shouldn't be a value judgment thing, and would make some of the most "progressive" recent artists people like Taylor Swift, whom they certainly would exclude from their definition.)

Wet Legume (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

(They're using it aspirationally, like - "artists whom we hope are influencing the next direction of pop...")

Wet Legume (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

Which I guess it fine actually - I don't even know what I'm complaining about now. It just sounds kinda snobbish, lol

Wet Legume (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

what is new about taylor swift? i could see like an artist like sophie fitting that, just in terms of ok this doesn't sound like it could have been created in the past, swift is pretty traditional

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

Just in that she's influenced other artists to write songs like her, and so the direction of pop styles has "progressed" as a result of her popularity – in the sense that change is "forward movement" (but I get that's not what "progress" is supposed to mean)

Wet Legume (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

all songs progress toward silence

sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 22:04 (one year ago) link

Not fast enough, in many cases.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link

Any particular reason why it took them forever to review Ground Groove?

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 22 December 2022 07:03 (one year ago) link

this is an objective discrepancy-

if i'm listening to music on my smartphone (android+spotify) and i navigate to pfork on my browser (brave), something on the site commandeers the volume on my phone and knocks it down significantly (both via headphones or bluetooth, whatever i'm using at the time).

it's a minor annoyance, but also very wtf-ey. leave my shit alone, damn.

i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link

what is new about taylor swift? i could see like an artist like sophie fitting that, just in terms of ok this doesn't sound like it could have been created in the past, swift is pretty traditional

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, December 14, 2022 3:59 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

Just in that she's influenced other artists to write songs like her, and so the direction of pop styles has "progressed" as a result of her popularity – in the sense that change is "forward movement" (but I get that's not what "progress" is supposed to mean)

― Wet Legume (morrisp), Wednesday, December 14, 2022 4:01 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think tim f made a good case that compositionally/formally she is 'progressing'

xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 17:50 (one year ago) link

xp oh yes, pitchfork site famous for commandeering audio. because when would you ever possibly be wanting to read about music while listening to music?

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link

it's infuriating! one of the few sites left that completely stops my audio when i click to it

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link

Good to know that's not just my phone setup. I'll only check out Pitchfork on a computer.

... where lately I always take a minute to stare at the short preview loop of the Alvvays interview video. Molly nodding and turning and adjusting her shirtsleeve is oddly mesmerizing.

That just me?

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 6 January 2023 12:14 (one year ago) link

I mean, it *was* just you. But now that you've mentioned it, I can't look away.

alpine static, Friday, 6 January 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link

lol wrong thread, or not

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 January 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link

Quite a few of “The 34 Most Anticipated Albums of 2023” are dated “TBA,” and the blurb says something like, “we don’t know if this artist has music coming out anytime soon, but we can hope!”

Wet Legume (morrisp), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 06:17 (one year ago) link

Some really terrible writing in a few of those entries, too

Also, maybe I live in a bubble, but is anyone out there actually "anticipating" a new Gorillaz album?

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 15:18 (one year ago) link

Did You Know That There’s a Tunnel Under Ocean Blvd is Lana Del Rey’s first album since 2021

Will anyone remember her after such a hiatus?

Motion to adjourn to enjoy a footling (President Keyes), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 15:22 (one year ago) link

Rihanna’s long-awaited follow-up to 2016’s Anti somehow seems closer than ever.

I mean, it would be

jmm, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 15:23 (one year ago) link

If there’s one thing the Smashing Pumpkins at which have always excelled, it’s making melodramatic rock.

Motion to adjourn to enjoy a footling (President Keyes), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 15:25 (one year ago) link

the choices in that article are almost perfectly emblematic of the prevailing dual critical focus on chartpop and yet also dinosaur rock, for some reason

imago, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link

mush for brains

imago, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 15:31 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/kgcuRmj.jpg

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 15:34 (one year ago) link

saw that 'anticipated albums' thing yesterday and had all of the exact same issues that you guys do. i'm actively trying not to be a grump so i didn't say anything.

but it's also good to know i'm not alone in my cynicism lol

i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link

i have seen the light. metallica have always banged hardest

imago, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link

Pitchfork stumps for far worse bands than current day Metallica on a regular basis

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link

what's that new one -- Horsepaste or something?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 16:02 (one year ago) link

Mac DeMarco: Five Easy Hot Dogs

*screams into the void*

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 16:05 (one year ago) link

the problem with all these most-anticipated albums list is that artists don't announce their albums months ahead of time anymore! the only hard release dates in there are in february. the rest is just baseless speculation

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link

apologies to expert planners fever ray (march) and smashing pumpkins (april)

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 16:07 (one year ago) link

you guys really enjoy getting mad over nonsense

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 January 2023 16:10 (one year ago) link

Where's Magna Carta...Holy Grail 10th Anniversary Deluxe Edition?

Motion to adjourn to enjoy a footling (President Keyes), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 16:11 (one year ago) link

i'm not really screaming into the void jordan i just don't want to work

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link

Mac DeMarco: Five Easy Hot Dogs

*screams into the void*

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 16:05 (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

good point, well made

imago, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link

god seriously

a (waterface), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link

chartpop, dinosaur rock and bon-iver-esque vibesy bilge

imago, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 16:16 (one year ago) link

mac demarco is hella cringe

kiss me while the world decays (Austin), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 19:52 (one year ago) link

music
makes the people
come together

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link

If there’s one thing the Smashing Pumpkins at which have always excelled, it’s making melodramatic rock.

The next sentence says that their expansive new album "plans to do just that" (make melodramic rock?)

Wet Legume (morrisp), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link

speculation: pfork is experimenting with publishing articles composed by ai

kiss me while the world decays (Austin), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link

As long as we're piling on, I really can't believe "whatever comes next will be the icing on the cake" made it past an editor

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link

Kate NV is on the list, so it's not all bad

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 20:25 (one year ago) link

So is Fever Ray

Evan, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link

"whatever comes next on the cake will be the icing"

You can't eat your cake and have it make melodramatic rock too

Motion to adjourn to enjoy a footling (President Keyes), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link

So is Fever Ray

― Evan

"Temperatures are running high for this hotly anticipated release."

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 20:46 (one year ago) link

After the superstar’s outstanding seventh studio album shook the table yet again for pop, R&B, and dance music, a cake that was sitting on the table was disturbed... so the cake needs to be reassembled, and fresh icing applied. Whatever comes next will be that icing! Too many Beyoncé albums have shaken the table; it's time for a Beyoncé album that ices a cake.

Wet Legume (morrisp), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link

Fever Ray's new album "The Resulting Paste and the Icing Done"

Has anyone prompted the chat ai thing to rewrite this listbait piece yet?

Evan, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 21:01 (one year ago) link


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