Think this was about their level.
Very interested in who the next coach is. I was never a complete hater but even if you go with an American there are better options than Berhalter.
Also anticipating who steps up: Paxton Aaronson, Pepi, Tillman, Slonina, Busio, and more including names we don't know yet.
Goalkeeping seems sorted after some absurd (for the US) uncertainty. Between Turner, Horvath, and Steffen things are pretty solid there.
Also there's the what if factor. Several players who likely would have been on the roster were injured. Chris Richards in particular could have been starting at CB, where they weren't really hurting until the final game where Netherlands let them have the ball and then picked off passes for counterattacks.
Overall, Adams, Musah, McKennie could probably be the midfield for another 8 years. Pulisic and Weah are solid on the wings for another cycle, Reyna who knows (but hopeful), and Dest/Jedi are also very good.
Finishing? Who knows. Ferreira and Wright both were top 3-ish in their respective leagues and had only a fluke goal between them to show for it in Qatar. Sargent has been doing well for Norwich but didn't show much either.
I have gotten more into this stuff bc I have a close friend who works with the team in a non technical role. Between the Klinsmann, Arena II, Sarachan, and now Berhalter eras it's a lot to take in. I think they're as good now as ever, with some growth, experience at clubs, and development of other spots on the field, who knows what could happen in 26 on concacaf turf?
Gotta be killers in comparison to today, though.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 3 December 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link
Oh and Brendan Aaronson too, midfield is apparently the new strongest spot instead of GK
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 3 December 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link
The dearth of “in their prime” players due to the lost generation that didn’t qualify in 2018 was a glaring issue. Jordan Morris, veteran presence? Lol
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Saturday, 3 December 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link
Gio Reyna. https://t.co/YEzIiImcQK— Tom Bogert (@tombogert) December 11, 2022
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Sunday, 11 December 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link
omg the online screeching about this 😂🤣😂🤣
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Sunday, 11 December 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link
what in the waht is going on with berhalter
― sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link
Gregg Berhalter statement below relating to an attempt to blackmail him re: an incident involving he and his now wife Rosalind. #usmnt https://t.co/XSTdDwrC5H— Jeff Carlisle (@JeffreyCarlisle) January 3, 2023
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link
apparently ppl hate him enough to go all oppo research on him, kinda fucked up
I think this was a good way to handle it… I don't necessarily want him to be the coach anymore but it has nothing to do with this
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link
yeah wow. it seems like us soccer isn't moving forward with him, but that this is not the reason why
― sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link
I can't stand oppo research like that because it's never about the victim, it's about opportunism. no matter what they claim to the contrary.
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 21:34 (one year ago) link
I don't give a fuck about Berhalter being ousted, nor this being public knowledge, but I do object to basically using victims as pawns.
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 21:35 (one year ago) link
The wildest part about this: Berhalter and Claudio Reyna went to high school together. They played on the USMNT together. Reyna's wife, Danielle Egan, went to college and was best friends with Rosalind Berhalter. I seriously think the Reyna's leaked this bc of Gio...— bones (@thekleschprince) January 3, 2023
Who tf knows at this point but this would be so fucked. USSF is a relatively small and tight knit org.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 22:13 (one year ago) link
confirmed! apparently
Massive #USMNT story here. @BonaguraESPN and @JeffreyCarlisle get the confirmation: https://t.co/ZIZpxd7zEK— James Tyler (@JamesTylerESPN) January 4, 2023
― sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link
pretty sure he just cut off his son's career with USMNT off at the knees there
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
gio might prove too talented to kneecap him for his whole career but i would guess he won't be with the team for much of the next cycle
― sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link
this is typical peak USMNT brain here
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link
obviously not excusing what Gregg did to his wife back in college, which even he has acknowledged happened, but it seems like it was a private matter that they handled between the two of them, and now it's become public record (quite possibly against her wishes) and purely for the purpose of being angry about a son's playing time.
that's gonna make it real easy to hire the next coach.
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link
it would make berhalter or whoever the next coach is look just about as bad to retaliate against gio for the actions of his father (to say nothing of the nose-to-spite-the-face aspect of benching one of your best players when you have like... 5 good players). but i bet it will be awkward!
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link
I mean, it wouldn't be fair, necessarily, but I could see the next coach be reluctant to call him up altogether. easier to say "he didn't fit my current squad design" than to call him up and not play him and get accused of 'benching' Gio.
― Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link
that may happen but it's not like when france excommunicated benzema and still is france. the US can't really afford to just be tossing one of its only world class players overboard, so i'm sure everyone will get over it
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link
in any event, the ussf will prob just re-sign berhalter now to avoid being sued. so congrats to the reynas
u-9 AYSO morelike imho, lmao
Gio Reyna is hardly world class tbh, he's very talented but also very young and potentially injury-prone. He did some stupid shit during the World Cup and that was dealt with—should have been the end of it. I imagine he will be back as soon as the next cycle starts in earnest, barring injury.
Honestly I see this as much more damaging to Claudio Reyna's career (currently sporting director with Austin FC, previously with NYCFC, etc). Like I said, the world of the USSF is small. Actions like this are relatively easy to track down and people have long memories. Eric Wynalda rocked the boat a lot and has basically been blacklisted; it has happened to others as well. (Not saying that is right, but it is reality.)
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 19:15 (one year ago) link
Also there's nothing saying they need to fill the manager position immediately. Dave Sarachan was the interim coach after Arena was fired and that lasted most of a year iirc.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link
more confirmation
Danielle Reyna, mother of U.S. winger Gio Reyna, said in statement that she told USSF sporting director Earnie Stewart about Gregg Berhalter incident from 31 years ago involving his now-wife.Full statement and details here: https://t.co/sYqWCMRMGz— Paul Tenorio (@PaulTenorio) January 4, 2023
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link
One of the more intriguing usmnt callups in recent times, Alan Soñora, who has been playing with Independiente in Argentina
🎥 For all the USMNT fans excited about his call up, here’s a clip of Alan Soñora’s goals & assists in 2022 #USMNT 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/IzRCQjuXKI— 🇺🇸 USMNT vs Haters (@USMNTvsHaters) January 20, 2023
His father was a long time player for Boca and then came to MLS
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 20 January 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link
Didn't come out too good for the Reyna's
https://sports.yahoo.com/berhalter-reyna-investigation-us-soccer-gregg-claudio-danielle-gio-175935675.html
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 March 2023 20:49 (one year ago) link
ugh, so gross
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 13 March 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link
Claudio's mega misogynist text about female referees is something I'm sure he's glad to have shared w/ the world (actually, probably)
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 March 2023 21:12 (one year ago) link
lolol the US just conceded the most US-conceded goal ever at the friendly with Mexico
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 03:38 (eleven months ago) link
Antuna dispossessing a US defender at midfield, who also happened to be the only man between the ball and the goal at the time, and then taking it the entire way and scoring 1 v 1 on Johnson
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 03:39 (eleven months ago) link
El Tri strike first!Uriel Antuna takes advantage of the #USMNT backline and puts it home. 📺: @Telemundo & @Peacock for Spanish coverage. pic.twitter.com/HGPiILcTkx— NBC Sports Soccer (@NBCSportsSoccer) April 20, 2023
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 03:41 (eleven months ago) link
actually the initial backpass was an even worse idea lol...I didn't even see that in real time, just the dispossession
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 April 2023 03:43 (eleven months ago) link
I missed this one, but I guess I really didn't
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 20 April 2023 22:39 (eleven months ago) link
Abysmal match
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 April 2023 01:13 (eleven months ago) link
Though the equalizer was nice.
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 April 2023 01:14 (eleven months ago) link
Iiiiiiiinteresting
BREAKING: FIFA has approved Folarin Balogun's one-time switch to represent the US national team, FIFA has confirmed to The Athletic.Balogun, 21, has 19 goals in 34 games on loan at Reims from Arsenal. He most recently was with England youth int'l set-up. pic.twitter.com/iEITZIIAea— Tom Bogert (@tombogert) May 16, 2023
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 15:58 (ten months ago) link
finally a real striker
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 17:04 (ten months ago) link
Fucking disgusted
https://www.outsports.com/2023/6/15/23763078/mexico-fans-gay-chant-team-usa-put-chant
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 June 2023 05:43 (nine months ago) link
Until it costs them points in a competition it's never gonna change.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 16 June 2023 14:08 (nine months ago) link
Maybe not even then, sadlol
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 16 June 2023 14:09 (nine months ago) link
they should be forced to play in empty stadiums during the Gold Cup imo.
like CONCACAF or USMNT officials would ever let that happen
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 June 2023 14:13 (nine months ago) link
Or SUM for that matter
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 16 June 2023 18:16 (nine months ago) link
Lot more pace in this one than it would have had 20 years ago
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Monday, 19 June 2023 01:20 (nine months ago) link
Balogun opens his account.
Canada is struggling to deal with him
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Monday, 19 June 2023 01:41 (nine months ago) link
Balogun is pulling Canada out of shape.
They're resorting to mauling him when they can
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Monday, 19 June 2023 01:50 (nine months ago) link
Canada seems to have regressed since the WC. The Balogun goal was so good.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 19 June 2023 13:37 (nine months ago) link
Yea Davies looked terrible last night
― the manwich horror (Neanderthal), Monday, 19 June 2023 13:50 (nine months ago) link
Been meaning to say I was at the USA/Jamaica match on Saturday, Jamaica looked really good from the start, gave the B- US team all they could handle, lucky to get a draw. Also Soldier Field sucks, kinda? Maybe I am too used to empty Fire games.
My friend Jeff retired from day to day work with usmnt at this match. He will definitely still be a good follow for any American fan of the game.
A few days late, but a message about my 118th and final game embedded with the @USMNT.Thank you everyone, but especially these four standing next to me. 🙏🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/Ac3isMmkcd— Jeff Crandall (@jefecrandall) June 27, 2023
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 04:12 (nine months ago) link
really a disservice to have the Gold Cup immediately after the Nations League final.
This quarterfinal between Canada and the US looks like what a match between these two might have looked like in the 80s. Both B squads playing miserable soccer, zero pace. US fans cheering like they won off of Vazquez's (admittedly nice) goal, only to give up a stupid PK minutes later and let them equalize.
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 July 2023 02:09 (eight months ago) link
the PK was Canada's first SOG all match
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 July 2023 02:10 (eight months ago) link