― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't even use "Westlake" - its all just Koreatown / MacArthur Park imo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westlake%2C_Los_Angeles%2C_California
― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link
Despite the rather poetic homage paid to it, the real MacArthur Park became known for being a violent place after 1985 when drug-dealing, shoot-outs and occasional drownings became somewhat common. Before the decline of the neighborhood, the park featured the traditional paddle-boats and a large fountain in the center of the lake; since the park was a popular middle-class destination for over fifty years, it is likely it can be reclaimed in the future.
― something about dan aykroyd coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link
fun fact: Beck gave a shout-out to Zankou in "Debra"
― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― something about dan aykroyd coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
The Sweet Life Business is booming at Mashti Malone's, where ice cream takes on the delicious and exotic flavors of its CO-owners' native Iran. Read Article
The store belongs to two brothers, Mashti,and Mehdi Shirvani,who grew up Mashhad, a small town in northern Iran. "We are not Malones," says Mehdi, the lively younger brother, and salesman of the joint. "Do I look like a Malone?" Read more Articles
― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link
"DO I LOOK LIKE A MALONE" ?
― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link
The FoodThe ice cream is made regularly on the premises, and rosewater is the base for most flavors, enhanced with Middle Eastern ingredients such as orange blossom, saffron and cardamom in place of traditional American ones. Creamy rosewater ice cream hits the tongue meltingly smooth, while the perfume of roses wakes the taste buds. Coconut-pineapple marries two powerful flavors into a perfectly balanced mixture. The rosewater sorbet is similar to a traditional Iranian dessert, flecked with slightly crunchy rice noodles. American flavors are just as delicious: Strawberry cheesecake tastes remarkably like its namesake, and almonds stud praline's caramel sweetness.
― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:48 (eighteen years ago) link
x^n-post
weho has a funny lego like shape. it should be more priapic, somehow!
Well, if you rotate it 45 degrees it gets a scoosh more phallic, if not priapic.
But the ZIP is 90069 haw haw haw. So there's that.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link
actually, it tasted exactly the same. maybe if you should accidentally end up west of la brea, you can stoop to our level and check it out!
― something about dan aykroyd coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link
dean my anti-westside faux snobbery is just a parody of all those who usually remain "west of labarea" - i'm cool w/ the westside just wouldnt want to live there (since im p00r). but fo real...i just had a coworker from manhattan beach who rarely goes anywhere east of the 405. before i doubted whether ppl like this exist ...whatever its cool. theyre missing out on most of the city; their loss!
― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Only the man himself could answer.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link
No no, it's just that no one was listening and people started to say wacky things or correct me for things I never said!
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link
lets all go to historic filipinotown on friday. even tho i dont know whats to do there
― Vichitravirya XI, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Spencer, I hope you're not referring to the goofy map. I was trying to find a real map, but the West Hollywood logo was all I could come up with. No smartassedness intended.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
We can find out! (And respond to me back, those of you I've e-mailed, I haven't heard from anyone! Then again I haven't heard from Arthur yet, I should call him. Will try and be in LA around 6 pm, Amoeba again -- big surprise.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link
oh! i didn't know that one person like this actually existed! carry on with the generalizations then!
seriously though, from my experience, the "i don't leave the eastside" people are far more vocal and obnoxious about the sentiment. in fact, i can't recall ever meeting anyone who used the "i don't leave the westside" catchphrase.
― something about dan aykroyd coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 00:06 (eighteen years ago) link
The city of South Pasadena exists for only one thing - blocking the 710 freeway extension. Their hatred is ever-lasting, ever-intense, and completely unstoppable. So intense is their fury that the city incorporated long before the 710 came into being.
Everyone else in Southern California wants to call South Pasadena NIMBYville, and I totally agree.
Of course I work there and take the Gold Line three days a week. Pave the whole damn thing over as far as I'm concerned.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Hang out in Ocean Park/Venice more often. I know folks over there who think of anything west of BUNDY as "the mainland." And at least one Main Street retailer hawking tees with the logo AWoL (Always West Of Lincoln).
Oh yes, they're out there...
Easy enough for the Eastsidaz to take the same attitude. They've got Amoeba.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 00:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― something about dan aykroyd coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 00:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 00:51 (eighteen years ago) link
the bar is great, but the roof's even better!
― metal detective (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link
None received! I just felt misunderstood!
My ex-gf lives in South Pasadena, it's really nice!
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 06:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― metal detective (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 06:16 (eighteen years ago) link
Did you go to USC Vic? I took a couple of Boyd's classes which were a lot of fun. - I did indeed live through... all that. And it's never been about TS: Casper vs. Boyd for me, as MacPherson was hands down better than both
Have you folx been to the bar at Hotel Figueroa? Parking's terrible, but last time I was there was v. cool.
-- Remy (rem...), June 15th, 2005.
I think we did once! Wasn't that a Thanksgiving FAP with Brian?
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), June 15th, 2005.
No no that was at the HMS Bounty on Wilshire in Koreatown right across from the legendary Ambassador Hotel / Coconut Grove (depicted in The Aviator) - it's only gotten scene-ier since then, as apparently Ev@ Longoria or whatever she's called is a "regular." But it's still pretty chill, and getting drunk there is fun if you have any imagination coz the whole make-believing you're inside a boat thing is v easy to do.
I like the Hotel Figueroa, especially the Moroccan-themed bar / mezzanine inside, plus the ornate bathrooms downstairs, but every time i've gone there and hung out near the pool w/ a drink my friends and i have gotten a VERY weird vibe for whatever reason...as if we're surrounded by robotic USC frat-prepboys instead of real people. Which is probably true... fwiw The Fig is nice but I think the Bonaventure + the Biltmore easily pwn it hands down
dude, they are everywhere, really. Just to go back to overusing Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Los_Angeles
The Westside's traffic congestion is legendary. Although once served by the Pacific Electric Railroad's streetcars, it was the first region of Los Angeles to be developed largely around the automobile, and is notorious for its lack of significant public transportation. Its residents are also noted for their NIMBY attitude toward transportation projects such as the Exposition Boulevard light rail line and the Wilshire Boulevard extension of the MTA Red Line subway, although this has begun to change as traffic continues to attenuate the region's quality of life. The almost transcendently gridlocked San Diego Freeway is the primary transportation corridor in the region, and much of the area's commercial development is along it. The proposed Pacific Coast, Beverly Hills, and Laurel Canyon freeways undoubtedly would have sped up the region's traffic flow, but went unbuilt in the face of massive community opposition; unfortunately, a great deal of high-density development took place in anticipation of these roadways' construction, resulting in significant congestion on the area's surface streets. In particular, getting to Hollywood from the West Side is notoriously difficult, with major east-west streets between the regions jammed during virtually all waking hours.
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Culture
The Westside is generally thought of as the white part of the city of Los Angeles, in contrast to Latino-dominated East Side, the Latino and Asian areas such as Pico-Union and Koreatown in and around downtown, and the black and Latino neighborhoods of South Central. Despite the two areas' relative proximity, many Westsiders rarely cross the Santa Monica Freeway into South Central, or at least they go no further east or south than the University of Southern California campus and the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. In fact, a longstanding phrase amongst Westside natives is "Life ends east of Sepulveda."
East of Sepulveda? Thats frankly appalling. They're missing 80% of "the city" - but, by choice! I just cannot comprehend this viewpoint of self-denial, but then again I didn't grow up near a beach. Just asking you directly dean, what is it that compels you to not go "East of La Brea" ? You can't really deny that most of the city's historic, architectural and cultural landmarks and institutions (LACMA @ Stanley/Fairfax is close enough to count) are on this side. Why avoid it?
If we're ever to develop and progress further as a unified, distinct city we have to get rid of any of these provincialized/localized attitudes that only foster more divisiveness, esp along racial and socio-economic lines. ALL of Los Angeles should be for ALL TEH PPL RAH
― Vichitravirya XI, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link
we can't develop in any way unless we truly believe we are living in a GREBT PLACE OK...& WE R
― Vichitravirya XI, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― metal detective (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:36 (eighteen years ago) link
This is corny bullshit. Use your brain, Vic. Have you actually heard this in "real life"? Anyone who says this is a douchebag and you've got to be one too if you're this gullible.
Just asking you directly dean, what is it that compels you to not go "East of La Brea" ? You can't really deny that most of the city's historic, architectural and cultural landmarks and institutions (LACMA @ Stanley/Fairfax is close enough to count) are on this side. Why avoid it?
Remember your parody argument? Gee, now do you think I was serious?
― something about dan aykroyd coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― something about dan aykroyd coming out of a coconut (deangulberry), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:46 (eighteen years ago) link
And wasn't the original Zankou in Glendale?
― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:46 (eighteen years ago) link