2022-23 Hot Stove thread

i'd have liked to see him remain a met but man that is a big gamble on a 34yo dude who seems to have 'forearm tightness' every spring

guess i should simply be happy that the rangers are still out there spending incredible amounts of money for dudes in their 30s

5 years, $185M. I hope they remember to have him take a physical first.

also lol scherzer is like the only starter the mets have under contract

Lmao Bochy?!

Ya I was not expecting 5 years

Just found out about this 37AAV over five years. Can't believe anyone would go that long on him.

The half billion dollar infield was not enough

God bless them for going for it, but I don’t see much of a strategy here outside of splashing money about randomly

If DeGrom is healthy that contract is potentially a steal, but that’s the biggest “if” I can recall attached to such a huge deal.

The last three years he’s averaged 13 starts and a WAR of 2.8. Short of a miracle, there’s no way he comes close to providing the value they’re paying him for

It will be interesting to know what other offers were on the table, or perhaps the Rangers were bidding against themselves as they seem to do quite often.

I would be surprised if the Mets didn’t go at least 3 years

Mets apparently offered 3 years/$120Mish

Verlander is supposedly going to the Mets, $86M for two years. Wow. Have to think about whether they came out ahead on that swap or not.

I guess we’ll see if his ERA drops below 1 next year!

wonder if Houston didn't even come close with a competitive offer. they've had a curious offseason, in terms of decision-making.

Such a unique comparison: DeGrom, this historically great pitcher who just can't stay healthy coming off his age-34 season, vs. a HOF pitcher coming off a Cy Young but who'll turn 40 in a couple of months and is one season removed from Tommy John surgery. And then you factor in the five-year deal vs. the two-year deal...confusing!

Astros owner 100% high on his own supply

Great deal/virtual swap for the Mets if Scherzer and Verlander stay healthy.

I love DeGrom but giving him five years guaranteed was nuts.

Phillies sign Trea Turner for 11/300

Stove is hot today. 11 years is a long time but I guess they aren't worried about the last few.

Correa to the Giants or that is my wish out of all of this.

Have the giants done anything so far?

I assume they're too busy courting Judge and don't have time for other deals?

If they get Judge then I think they'll go one more big one. Correa make too much sense.
Everything after Judge tho. If they don't get Judge then they could scale down.

so Turner left $42 million on the table to play for the Phillies over the Padres. i assume he wanted to make sure he would be playing SS?!

i think the prevailing theory is that he wants to be on the east coast... apparently when the nats were shopping him he asked to stay on the east coast

Why did San Diego go after Turner when they have Tatis? Baseball money is out of hand. Just glad my team is major market.

I think they don't like Tatis's SS defense and want to move him to CF maybe

^^^

rangers signed Heaney to a 2 year deal. comes with opt-out and (apparently) $15 mil in potential bonuses. the rangers are really rolling the dice this offseason!

Last piece of the puzzle: they bring Rougned Odor back.

maybe there's some sort of baton the rangers can come up with that heaney and degrom can pass to each other as they go on and off the DL

Verlander might very well throw more innings in the two years of his contract then DeGrom will throw in the five of his.

I mean people are joking that Diaz might throw more innings tbh

josh bell to cleveland, two years, $33m

reports are starting to come out saying Judge is signing with the giants.

I'll be bowling tonight with a huge Giants fan (how huge? he thought Lincecum was going to go into the HOF) who doesn't like Aaron Judge. Something tells me he may come around.

$360M for 10 years, which would take him into his age-40 season. It's like Albert Pujols and Miguel Cabrera never happened (and, great as he was last year, Judge doesn't really start at their level).

Not sure this is actually confirmed yet, the report is being walked back by Heyman

xp lmao I’m sorry but you were hyping Judge like crazy all year!

Bellinger to Cubs, supposedly

Breaking: Cody Bellinger and the Chicago Cubs are in agreement on a one-year, $17.5 million contract, sources tell @JeffPassan. pic.twitter.com/oRoKx76xq8

— ESPN (@espn) December 6, 2022

they needed the new jason heyward

That’s a lot of money for some dude who hit, what, like .206? The Ricketts aren’t serious people. They’ve got their cash cows/fan appeasement working just like they want.

xp lmao I’m sorry but you were hyping Judge like crazy all year!

Everything's relative, right? He's not first-decade Albert Pujols or Miguel Cabrera.

Actually, he's got a better career OPS+ right now than either Cabrera's first 10 seasons, or his first 13 (Cabrera's last great year). Surprised...staying in the lineup's another issue. (Pujols' OPS+ is better by about 10 points through a decade.)

AJ’s defense and baserunning edge is no small factor. Cabrera is a first ballot hall guy but he’s never had a season as good as Judge’s rookie year or last year, which is the catch; Cabrera was durable and Judge…well the jury is out on his health for the next few years.

_xp lmao I’m sorry but you were hyping Judge like crazy all year!_

Everything's relative, right? He's not first-decade Albert Pujols or Miguel Cabrera.

On pin and needles

Here comes Haniger ✍️

The #SFGiants have agreed to terms with OF Mitch Haniger pic.twitter.com/3T6PIBKVzh

— SFGiants (@SFGiants) December 7, 2022