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https://vancouversun.com/news/world/cryptocurrency-billionaire-vyacheslav-taran-dies-in-mysterious-chopper-crash/wcm/94c27f47-ac91-493e-8098-c8e2f1ef3ffb

Cryptocurrency billionaire Vyacheslav Taran dies in mysterious chopper crash

The latest to die, according to the Daily Mail, is Russian billionaire Vyacheslav Taran, 53, who was killed in a Nov. 25 helicopter crash near the French resort town of Villefranche-sur-Mer after taking off from Lausanne, Switzerland.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 1 December 2022 08:30 (one year ago) link

what’s the Russian expression for “where’s my money”?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 December 2022 10:20 (one year ago) link

I think it’s the sound of cocking a Glock

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 1 December 2022 10:26 (one year ago) link

if sbf never stops confessing they can never start charging him tapsheadwisely.gif

mark s, Thursday, 1 December 2022 11:26 (one year ago) link

More from here:
https://cointelegraph.com/news/libertex-crypto-exchange-head-vyacheslav-taran-dies-in-helicopter-crash-in-france

Taran is the third crypto executive to die unexpectedly in recent weeks. Amber Group cofounder Tiantian Kullander (TT) died on Nov. 23 in his sleep at the age of 30, and MakerDAO cofounder Nikolai Mushegian drowned in Puerto Rico on Oct. 28 at the age of 29. Taran is also the latest in a long string of Russian businessmen to die under various circumstances.

Taran’s death has led to some speculation in the press. The helicopter accident that claimed Taran’s life is under investigation; It took place in good weather conditions with an experienced pilot. According to France Bleu, a second passenger was booked for the flight but canceled at the last minute.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 1 December 2022 12:25 (one year ago) link

suppose that's a change from the crypto bro who faked his own death on his way to stealing all his users funds https://nypost.com/2021/12/20/mystery-of-crypto-ceo-who-died-taking-250-million-with-him/

, Thursday, 1 December 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

there's a decent CBC podcast about that dude titled "A Death in Cryptoland"

I was left with the impression there might not have been a lot of money to run off with

mh, Thursday, 1 December 2022 17:42 (one year ago) link

one of the most bizarre details was that the guy handling cash-outs from Quadriga holders was someone living in a trailer in Quebec who was just moving bags of money around, iirc

mh, Thursday, 1 December 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link

moving them around the trailer?

mark s, Thursday, 1 December 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link

The trailers in Quebec are pretty large

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 1 December 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link

my bad, it was New Brunswick
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/transcript-a-death-in-cryptoland-e5-where-s-the-money-gerry-1.6196653

And I'd never heard of Aaron Matthews. And so I looked up the address that was on the registration and I found that it was this prefab home park in New Brunswick. And this is the address where this user has been asked to send his money. And I just thought that's really strange, because at the time I thought of Quadriga as very much a Vancouver entity. And here we have money being wired to this guy in New Brunswick.

I may be confusing this with another crypto operation but I think that to assuage one investor who was threatening them if they didn't get money out, a bag of cash was delivered in person at some point

mh, Thursday, 1 December 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

that guy seems like did actually just die on vacation in india i watched a show on it and they interviewed the doctor who treated him seemed legit, and it also seemed like that he actually lost most of the money via bad investing rather than stealing, tho he did obvs steal some of it

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

speaking of crypto fraud tho

Wow, tell us Tether is running a Ponzi scheme without telling us that Tether is running a Ponzi scheme. Just listen to his answers. IMHO, as a former SEC enforcement official of 18 yrs, the evasion/deflection/lack of responsiveness makes me believe Tether is a house of cards. https://t.co/smBHui1Djv

— John Reed Stark (@JohnReedStark) December 2, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

tho the bad investing was a form of stealing he wasnt supposed to be investing depositors funds xp self, but rather than being alive hoarding the money somewhere more likely hes dead and the money is gone

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

wild how common the investing depositors funds without asking pattern is in crypto no one wants to just opperate a normal exchange

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link

good show tho i think its on netflix everyone said he presented as this upbeat honest enthusiastic almost innocent crypto true believer then after he died they found another internet fraud in his past lol

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link

Levine good yesterday on the waft of ponzi coming off tether

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 December 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

yeah otm

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

tether has stunk ever since they posted this lol

https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/coindesk/TB33XCJ57VECRBTITBRQW5TJGU.png

, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

Pie charts that have the vibe of an obvious lie

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 2 December 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

who would even slice a pie up that way

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

is tether the one where they claim to have a bunch of currency but wouldn’t say what country’s?

mh, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

Are there any standards at all for what can be considered "commercial paper?" I'm guessing not in their case if they're not audited anyway. And of course it could all just be made up for that matter.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 2 December 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

journalists have talked to all the big commercial paper brokers and have never been able to find someone whos done business with tether, which is interesting considering how much of it they claim to own

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link

FTX commercial paper

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 2 December 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

papercoin

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

for while they were claiming to own a bunch of chinese debt which was a random twist

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

levine musing about what could be happening now that tether is saying theyre loaning out tethers

You have 1,000 Bitcoin worth about $17 million.
You want to buy more Bitcoin, but you do not have any dollars.
You go to Tether and say “hey give me 17 million USDT, in exchange I’ll put up 2,000 Bitcoins as collateral.”
Tether is like “sure that’s the business we’re in” and hands you 17 million USDT.
You use that 17 million USDT — notionally worth $17 million — to buy 1,000 more Bitcoin.
Now you have 2,000 Bitcoin.
You post the 2,000 Bitcoin as collateral to Tether for the loan, which is now overcollateralized with liquid collateral ($34 million worth of Bitcoin).
More USDT have been created to buy Bitcoin, but no new dollars have come into the system.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-12-01/sbf-missed-ftx-s-risks

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

Are there any standards at all for what can be considered "commercial paper?" I'm guessing not in their case if they're not audited anyway. And of course it could all just be made up for that matter.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, December 2, 2022 11:54 AM (thirty minutes ago)

needs to be rated by one of the rating agencies, typically will have to be at investment grade or higher

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/070313/introduction-commercial-paper.asp

Defaults are more common than in past years. Prior to the financial crisis of 2007-08, commercial paper issuers in the U.S. defaulted on approximately 3% of their issues. That number rose sharply in 2007-08. In fact, the outstanding amount of commercial paper dropped by around 29% by September 2008 for fear of continued default.

One famous example of commercial paper default took place in 1970 when the transportation giant Penn Central declared bankruptcy. The company defaulted on all of its commercial paper obligations. The immediate consequence was that its creditors lost their money. There was so much Penn Central commercial paper floating around that the entire commercial paper market took a hit. Issuers who had no relation to Penn Central saw investors lose confidence in the instrument altogether. The commercial paper market declined by nearly 10% within a month. After this debacle, the practice of buying backup loan commitments as a form of insurance for commercial paper became commonplace in the market.

a "cash equivalent" is not supposed to have a risk of default!

, Friday, 2 December 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

it pains me to admit it, but doing some googling suggests that certain kinds of commercial paper are in fact treated like cashlike equivalent :|

, Friday, 2 December 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link

they certainly are, just look at the "cash and cash equivalents" line item on any corporate balance sheet

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 2 December 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

they certainly are, just look at the "cash and cash equivalents" line item on any corporate balance sheet

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 2 December 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

can't be fraud if you don't even buy into the ponzi scheme you promised to buy into

Did the Bitcoin in FTX even exist?

Last night Sam Bankman-Fried admits that when people sent money to buy bitcoin, FTX didn’t actually buy bitcoin for you.

pic.twitter.com/GWssuY2kJB

— Genevieve Roch-Decter, CFA (@GRDecter) December 2, 2022

mark s, Friday, 2 December 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link

lol, lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

tired: bitcoin is fake
wired: bitcoin doesnt exist

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

lol I hadn't heard SBF speak before

perfect voice for the role

mh, Friday, 2 December 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

The voice of an underprepared dungeon master.

The Bankruptcy of the Planet of the Apes (PBKR), Friday, 2 December 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

the guy every vc thought was a genius

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

Why is that guy talking to literally everyone

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 2 December 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

menawhile now at last catching up on the lifestory of kim dotcom, visible there in the top righthand corner

i feel like i've known abt this guy my entire life -- without knowing the half of it, or indeed the hundredth

his wikipedia page is full of very funny sentences: "Immigration New Zealand made its decision on his application, despite his foreign convictions and despite his persona non grata status in Thailand, after officials used a special direction to waive "good character" requirements [citation needed]"

mark s, Friday, 2 December 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

seems like its a campaign to present himself as an idiot rather than a con man to the court of public opinion, only problem is he keeps admitting to crimes which could hurt him in the court of law xp

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

xp very altruistic in allowing interviews

mh, Friday, 2 December 2022 19:59 (one year ago) link

if sbf never stops confessing they can never start charging him tapsheadwisely.gif

― mark s, Thursday, 1 December 2022 11:26 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

^^^

mark s, Friday, 2 December 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link

feel like these dudes think that things coming out in discovery look bad but if you're just constantly talking about stuff you just happened to do you couldn't be criminal. just chumming the water with all kinds of leads

mark s is on the case

mh, Friday, 2 December 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

also might just be dumb and impulsive

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 2 December 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

he accidentally leans over on camera and we see half a dozen stimulant patches stuck to his back

mh, Friday, 2 December 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

Rolling Stone....thank you

🐦[I interviewed some people and wrote about how a generation got into (formal) politics for the first time with Jeremy Corbyn and got told to shut up and what happens with that now: https://t.co/mc2aXi1ECZ🕸 for @RollingStoneUK🕸
— Great Editor (@simonchilds13) March 28, 2022🕸]🐦
it is really hard to tell what it real and what isn't real there <3
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can't be fraud if you don't even buy into the ponzi scheme you promised to buy into

🐦[Did the Bitcoin in FTX even exist?

Last night Sam Bankman-Fried admits that when people sent money to buy bitcoin, FTX didn’t actually buy bitcoin for you.

pic.twitter.com/GWssuY2kJB🕸
— Genevieve Roch-Decter, CFA (@GRDecter) December 2, 2022🕸]🐦

tsrobodo, Saturday, 3 December 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link

Dear esteemed investors of the “cosa nostra”

Greetings from coinfuck,

We regret to inform you that due to market forces beyond our control, money has gone bye bye. We thank you for your interest in our project and trust that you understand that our hands are tied.

— warrior cop (@wyatt_privilege) December 4, 2022

This is past and present not future https://t.co/se7hdp51x9

— warrior cop (@wyatt_privilege) December 4, 2022

(elvis telecom posted some of these earlier but the point is worth remaking i think)

mark s, Sunday, 4 December 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link

if sbf never stops confessing on a zoom feat.kim dotcom the mafia can never sleep him with the fishes

mark s, Sunday, 4 December 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

tons of russian rich guys getting killed, crypto related or otherwise, russia was a haven for scammers, maybe theyre using the war as cover to get rid of some of them

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 04:18 (one year ago) link


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