ils thread for general menswear and men's clothing ish

Also I tend to like stuff that falls around mid-thigh or a little shorter, fwiw

Duffel coat?

used to own an "authentic" duffel coat, found it a bit too stiff.

feel like what I'm looking for is like a hip-length parka that's just not too puffy/thick

man alive what about trying something really puffy, would you be into that?

I really don't know what to do about winter coats these days. A few years ago I spent about £200 on a Didrikson parker-style coat that looked like the kind of thing you'd wear in an Arctic laboratory. It did the trick, however the large hood/ruff and long tail prohibited me when I was cycling. Also whenever I got to my destination, I'd be stuck for five minutes looking for a place to dump this gigantic sleeping-bag of a coat which doesn't even fold up nicely.

So now I'm thinking I might sell it and get a decent waterproof, then layer up according to how cold it is.

A friend of mine got an absolutely lovely jacket from this place: https://labomono.com/ - she got the black and white design which looked really great on her because she has vivid red hair. That said, I don't know if I love the other designs, and I'm not sure the b/w would suit me the same.

It's a shame about winter costs/waterproofs that you can spend a long time getting ready to go out, then having to dump an ugly plastic thing on you it's like "No"

man alive what about trying something really puffy, would you be into that?

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, November 23, 2022 4:22 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

agreed go puffy or go home

https://www.jacketscreator.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/george-costanza-jacket.jpg

anyway the real answer is we live in the golden age of weirdly warm for how thin and not puffy they are winter jackets all the outdoor brands have them patagonia northface etc

right it's crazy. I am basically 90% workwear & natural fibres but bought an arcteryx proton last year. Not even a jacket really but it is some dark cozy weightless textile magic.

these are the days of miracle and wonder

woof is it waterproof? and warm enough for winter?

I have an REI jacket that is just the exact perfect weight - I can't find it listed rn but it is similar to the Arcteryx line

vests! (no more tight pants please. and what is with the extremely short trouser length that causes cold ankles?)

xps
Showerproof (water repellent?), not waterproof, but dries p quickly. It's been fine on its own in the the on/off drizzle over the last few weeks, but got properly sodden when I was caught in one downpour (but it was a real bastard downpour).

For winter… it probably needs one more layer on colder days. I throw a hardshell over it if it's very cold (or looks like serious rain) but I really haven't needed that often this year (I wear it to walk the dog almost every morning).

oh & I wear with 2 layers underneath - t-shirt + heavy flannel

"sueded" interior + technical fabric exterior = coziness
agree with the overall effect of layers but not sure volume and weight can ever be condensed (certainly not with blankets)

i like a huge winter parka that creates its own ecosystem personally but i live a very cold place

https://n.sinaimg.cn/sinakd20110/596/w1080h1116/20220905/2212-06271ee8a369c2b9b8217034f6a46264.jpg

anyway the real answer is we live in the golden age of weirdly warm for how thin and not puffy they are winter jackets all the outdoor brands have them patagonia northface etc

i barely ever find it cold enough to wear wool shirts or a bomber jacket these days, let alone my one down jacket (penfield)

https://jp.mercari.com/item/m26653487610

since i live in a southern clime and don’t deal with this problem i don’t really have much to add except that wanting “not puffy” and “not quilted” is contrary to physics. the more quilting it has the less puffy it will need to be, assuming the same type of fill

I think I'm gonna give this one a shot (Marine Layer)

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0831/9103/products/bigsur_650x.jpg?v=1666720055

Pictured: the exact expression my face will show at the sumptuous comfort of my new parka

that is quilted on the interior, which is a solution to your issue i had not considered

I like my Belstaff Pathmaster parka. Waxed cotton, the over-generous faux-fur hood piece comes off. Can find Belstaff stuff on sale for non-crazy prices.

https://internetfusion.imgix.net/1458887.jpg

man alive what about trying something really puffy, would you be into that?

― Tracer Hand

agreed go puffy or go home

― lag∞n

rick owens has got u

https://www.bergdorfgoodman.com/p/rick-owens-leather-funnel-neck-puffer-coat-prod174500153

dog latin this jacket has ingenious reversible functionality, so you can lift it out of the way of the bike pedals

https://www.r13.com/products/upside-down-coat-2

perfect for accompanying your guild navigator to its function

https://www.r13.com/products/upside-down-coat

if i were to ever get another big jacket i think i would like to get an orange one, as worn by carl sagan in cosmos or deniro in the deer hunter. they actually recently started making the deer hunter ones again (still made in usa iirc)

https://i.warosu.org/data/fa/img/0081/84/1399166510297.png

https://www.xileclothing.com/uploads/tinymce/6b1dccd4929f6628efd9779146748136.jpg

https://www.xileclothing.com/uploads/images/products/large/xile_holubar_holubardeerhunterjacketorange_1635773747PS3_0031_LR5125.jpg

i also like this very technical japanese brand, very futuristic but also somehow understated. apparently this new “aurora” fill they use is crazy light and warm. but these things cost a million bucks and for climate reasons mentioned totally unnecessary

https://www.montara-wh.com/view/item/000000001569

if i were to ever get another big jacket i think i would like to get an orange one, as worn by carl sagan in cosmos or deniro in the deer hunter. they actually recently started making the deer hunter ones again (still made in usa iirc)

https://i.warosu.org/data/fa/img/0081/84/1399166510297.png

https://www.xileclothing.com/uploads/tinymce/6b1dccd4929f6628efd9779146748136.jpg

https://www.xileclothing.com/uploads/images/products/large/xile_holubar_holubardeerhunterjacketorange_1635773747PS3_0031_LR5125.jpg

i also like this very technical japanese brand, very futuristic but also somehow understated. apparently this new “aurora” fill they use is crazy light and warm. but these things cost a million bucks and for climate reasons mentioned totally unnecessary

https://www.montara-wh.com/view/item/000000001569

deer hunter parka is v nice, but orange is p much the worst color on me

almost certainly a woolrich mountain parka bobby d is wearing there, ive owned a number of those jackets over the years, tho never in orange

its quite light too really a fall-spring, for those in warmer climates

tho irrc they do make them with various levels of lining

Spiewak had a line of really cool streetwear-y outerwear for awhile but it looks like they just sell uniform jackets now.

nah it’s a holubar. their marketing campaign is based off it being worn by deniro (it’s literally called the “deer hunter jacket”)

https://www.heddels.com/2021/02/five-plus-one-mountain-parkas-tbc/

https://www.holubar.com/en/man/outerwear/deer-hunter-syrom-jacket-m062.html?RwDet=true&articoli_ID=913

idk about carl sagan. that’s a different one

outrageous i cant accept it

I Love Being A Know-It-All

using the deer hunter for marketing is psychotic lol

i was thinking bern same thing today. even “better”, real mccoy’s sort-of-subsidiary toys mccoy made an exact replica of travis bickle’s m65 (with the patches and pin) awhile back

https://item.rakuten.co.jp/americaya/tmj2137/

the* same thing

lmao unbelievable

Pictured: the exact expression my face will show at the sumptuous comfort of my new m-65

https://i.etsystatic.com/28030754/r/il/49da54/3697915610/il_570xN.3697915610_fhd2.jpg

you talkin to me you talkin to me about my cool jacket

tlg thank you for ID'ing holubar! i was skimming the barneys going out of business sale whenever their boston store closed and found a dope green parka made by a brand i had never heard of and promptly forgot about--this was it.

the algorithm heareth my prayers and giveth unto me this in an advertisement. Anyone know if this is a good brand?

https://finisterre.com/en-us/products/mens-recycled-fortis-waterproof-dark-olive

Spiewak had a line of really cool streetwear-y outerwear for awhile but it looks like they just sell uniform jackets now.

― lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Wednesday, November 23, 2022 7:00 PM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Spiewak was actually the first place my mind went -- I was coveting their parkas a couple years ago. Disappointed to find out that they don't seem to sell those anymore. You can find some discontinued ones on "Yoox" whatever the fuck that is.

xp

I look at Finisterre stuff a lot but they usually end up an almost-but-not-quite brand for me - stuff looks great on the site, the ethos is good & I think they have a decent all-round reputation (ok sort of 'Boden, but for The Guardian', but fine I'm 48 I'm comfortable with that).

I did buy one of their jumpers a few years back, but the fit wasn't great & the knit was a bit looser than I'd hoped - felt weirdly airy rather than chunky-cosy. Just one item though and, as I say, by reputation they're ok to good.

Marine Layer parka came, it's like a B+ from me I would say - I like the look, color, material, feel of the lining, and features, but it's just a tad more sack-like than I was hoping. It's less the thickness of the coat than the cut that's the problem. On the fence but may keep.

hmm based on the size chart maybe I just need a size down

Ok I got the other size - the Marine Layer parka is absolute junk, never buying something from them again, like lower quality than a Target house brand jacket. The stitching is abysmal - first time I stuck my hand through the sleeve I heard it rip loose. Then I tried to open the side pocket and the snap literally just came out - it didn't even rip, it was like on this square panel of plasticky fabric that I'm not even sure how it was attached.

jesus

I just bought this very nice Patagonia "Powder Town" thingy that is just right:

https://content.backcountry.com/images/items/1200/PAT/PATZA24/SMOBLU.jpg

(Pictured: not me.) That is "Smolder Blue" but there are other colors.

It has that magically weightless insulation and is not bulky or puffy or quilty at all.

Unlike most activewear it looks streamlined and non-fussy and reasonably dignified with casual clothing; I can wear it to the grocery store without feeling uber-tactical or self-conscious about my jacket calling undue attention to itself.

It also keeps my innards warm while at a bus stop. On a recent rainy morning I felt utterly cocooned. I can imagine shoveling the sidewalk in it, or going for a brisk walk in snowy woods.

Caveats: it is clearly meant for skiing, which is not something I usually do. There are some zippers and snaps and drawstrings and loops that I will likely never use, but it's good to know that they are there should I ever need them. They are discreet.