A Thread about the film JFK

Vietnam started for real and there was an air of, I dunno, make believe.

Dulles, by the way, was General Y's benefactor.

I got out in '64. Resigned my commission.

Dey should give'em a a medal for killin' Kennedy!

Gary Oldman no longer believes Stone’s conspiracy theories but he did at the time of the movie. So did I but I was 17 to be fair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP50JfsJ9zU

Ah always lock mah files!

Watching this movie for the first time. Is this off the record, Daddy-O?

Cockle-doodle-doo!

i got no reason to lie to you. i'm already in jail.

People like to act more important than they are. Especially in the….homosexual underworld.

Time just stands still he-ah. Like a snake. Sunnin' itself on the road.

this is a truly insane thread

reactionary proto-Q movie is good because it’s entertaining

this is a truly insane thread

― k3vin k., Monday, January 2, 2023

Very, very few people know about this, okay

As crazy as your mama

The way some ilxors drop quotes from this movie, fully expecting that everyone else on the thread will instantly recognize the quote and know what scene it references, not quoting to to make any point, but simply for the communal enjoyment of recalling that scene to mind, reminds me of how deep-dyed fans of The Princess Bride communicate with one another.

Somebody's got to tell the truth around here, Aimless, cuz the Government sure ain't doing it.

I'm not sure why you're here playing Sam Scold.

this conversation is best kept out of the everyday bustle of this board

It'll be off the record, omar. A quiet little chat between gentlemen.

We're going to Antoine's with the kids!

Nah, not scolding. anyone can see that all you are doing is what I described, sharing communal enjoyment among a group who clearly has watched it so often they've memorized large parts of the script and take delight in quoting it. but yes, I knew that drawing a parallel with the princess bride would draw a wince, because fans of JFK probably loathe it, but the parallel is apt in terms of behavior.

we’re thru the looking glass here people

That's some bullet.

Aimless, have you never done this sort of thing yourself?

(searches memory) To the best of my recollection, no.

But you must consider that a) I am on the more extreme end of the introvert scale, b) I spent a very large amount of my 20s totally wrapped up in poetry, greek and latin literature, instead of popular culture, and c) for all the past 36 years my life has been so involved with various family crises that popular culture has only reached me indirectly, to the point where, although I know Madonna exists, you could play me any song by Madonna and I couldn't connect her name to it. Yes, I am that much of an oddity.

I'm pretty sure I need not say more than what I said above, but I feel compelled to add that unlike the vast majority of ilxors, when I was growing up there were no VCRs, no cable movie channels, so the phenomenon of watching and rewatching favorite movies to surfeit simply didn't exist, and first through non-existence, then poverty, and then bychoice I have quite literally never had cable television or streaming in any home where I've lived up to the present minute.

This is not a brag. I understand that this places me well outside the bounds of cultural norms. That's neither a feature nor a bug in my estimate. It just makes me abnormal in a way that I find very acceptable and doesn't seem to adversely affect my general well-being. I wish the continual family crises hadn't been so central to my life, but I don't really miss the presumed benefits of having consumed mass quantities of popular culture, post-1972. I get along OK.

do you remember any of the poetry

I presume if I'd listened to the same poetry as often as I've heard ad jingles and Beatles songs, I'd have it burned in pretty deeply. But I read it instead. I learned a lot about how it operates and how to write it. But I wasn't memorizing it, no. That wasn't my interest.

Anyway, carry on with Kevin, Tommy Lee, Joe Pesci and the gang.

"As a matter of fact I don't even own a TV"

Good for you. I own one and watch it, too. May I just say that lives can be very complicated and your desire to cram me into a simple slot has more to do with your need to stop thinking than any connection to my life.

"among a group who clearly has watched it so often they've memorized large parts of the script and take delight in quoting it."

I've watched the whole thing twice. Maybe three times. And I don't know anything about The Princess Bride. Maybe it's you know that should stop trying to draw conclusions about others and what's happening.

i dreamt last night that the cause of jfk's assassination was bob-a-job week

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:52 PM (fifteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

still the only good theory imo

― mark s, Friday, 17 May 2019 15:02 (eight months ago) bookmarkflaglink

don't make me tap the sign

― mark s, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 14:23 (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

also

― mark s, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 15:27 (eight months ago) bookmarkflaglink

☝️☝️☝️

It was wrong the first time.

That's some bullet.

The telephones didn't work to keep the wrong stories from spreading if anything went wrong with the plan.

Do ppl like The Doors as much as JFK? Same year and similar approaches (use of name actors in minor roles, cutaways, monolithic deification of flawed 60s figures). I wanted nothing to do with either one at the time. I've since seen The Doors in bits and pieces and it seems just bad and not that entertaining.

Kevin's not entirely wrong though:

reactionary proto-Q movie is good because it’s entertaining

It's a terrible film, and not entertaining.

JFK is The Doors perfected.

They both also seem very sloppy/ugly. My wife noticed sets in JFK with furniture that was so 80s/90s. Ppl in The Doors look like they could step immediately into Singles without a costume change.

Why don't we drop this subject. It's one thing to engage in badinage with these youngsters, but this sort of thing could be so easily misunderstood.

I've noticed no incongruity with the visual design. But I do have a lovely Chippendale dining table. I often have a friend sit at one end while I sit at the othah. It's precisely the point of a looong dining table.

xp (which is to say, there isn't a single out of context quote in this thread as pointless and annoying as someone adapting a lateral lisp and interjecting "inconceivable!")

ftr sometimes when i post a decontextualized line from a movie i am trying to get people to notice thematic or metaphorical resonance context tends to camouflage, as here--

we got out near the geese, and only then did we realize we had forgotten our shotguns! stupid right? so, uh, of course, we didn’t get any geese.

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, November 22, 2022 4:05 PM bookmarkflaglink

--but admittedly this thread tends to be an exception lol

Wise buncha birds!

there were thousands of them, all over the place, but, uh, you couldn't approach 'em

(untouchable, man)

Forget it, Aimless, it's ILXtown.

but, uh, you couldn't approach 'em

I really dig how Pesci looks solemn while saying this line, like he's swallowed his own bullshit about the birds.

i been working with mice, yknow, trying to come up with a cure