I had Stage Manager running for a couple of weeks but I was also having huge system slow-downs and I noticed I often had kernal_task using ~1000% cpu in Activity Monitor - possibly this is because I am on an Intel mac and it hasn’t been optimised and bug fixed properly yet.
I did quite like it, although I wish there was an option to open new apps in the current stage rather than always opening a new one. I’ll try it again next time the OS is updated.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 20 November 2022 11:25 (one year ago) link
Lol I don’t even use it properly I don’t think. I’m just using it as an app switcher. I’m on an Intel Mini and it seems fine. In fact the whole computer feels a teeny bit quicker. Kind of wild how the windows update in real time in Stage Manager. If there’s an annoying animated ad it will keep plowing along over there.
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 20 November 2022 11:30 (one year ago) link
The thing that annoys me most about stage manager is how I couldn’t figure out how to just have the calculator floating in front of my window so I can still see the numbers I’m adding. I ended up getting this app that puts a pop out calculator in the menu bar.
― Jeff, Sunday, 20 November 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link
Yeah I can see that being annoying. Could you add it to the same “stage” as the thing that has the numbers or something?
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 20 November 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link
I tried it but 90% of the time I'm using an external monitor as an additional display and stage manager requires each display to have separate spaces which kind of breaks my whole workflow
― joygoat, Sunday, 20 November 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link
that’s dumb if you’ve extended your desktop
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 20 November 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link
Was like "what is this Stage Manager thing?" Then realized my iMac just got dropped for support. I guess Apple is not so subtly nudging me to get a new computer...
― Nhex, Sunday, 20 November 2022 22:32 (one year ago) link
Yeah I have no idea what it is eitherI need fewer screens in my life, not more
― calstars, Sunday, 20 November 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link
ok
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 5 June 2023 18:37 (eleven months ago) link
seems like it'd be great for domain-specific stuff
really selling it hard as a general purpose device
― mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 18:39 (eleven months ago) link
it looks way better than any of the other headsets
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 5 June 2023 18:40 (eleven months ago) link
god damn bob iger?
tech nerds where everyone in the office is wearing them.
Porn.
They'll sell if they actually look/work as well as they say. Obv curious about eye control, like maybe I'd rather just point at stuff? Wonder how weird that will be. Of course I never thought touch typing on a screen would take off.
― dan selzer, Monday, 5 June 2023 18:44 (eleven months ago) link
think they just admitted to extensive phrenology
― mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 18:46 (eleven months ago) link
I was joking with a friend that there was a cable coming out of it for the 20lb battery pack
and...
― mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 18:48 (eleven months ago) link
apple engineering is so nuts
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 5 June 2023 18:55 (eleven months ago) link
I assumed it was going to fake your appearance in video chat so you wouldn't see the goggles, and yup
― mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 18:56 (eleven months ago) link
$3,499!
― Position Position, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:04 (eleven months ago) link
I was thinking it would be like $500 and that would feel like a lot.
― Position Position, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:05 (eleven months ago) link
Apple's new Vision Pro will deliver new immersive experiences to users for example, in the photos below, these two women are experiencing for the very first time what its like to be a huge ass loser pic.twitter.com/eVlFztsPTc— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) June 5, 2023
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Monday, 5 June 2023 19:07 (eleven months ago) link
I was expecting $5k tbh
― mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:40 (eleven months ago) link
I mean, PSVR 2 has 1080 resolution, a fraction of the cameras, and requires a whole-ass PS5 to work at all and it's $550
This sucker has the hardware equivalent of several iPhones in it. $3500 ain't no bargain, but
― mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:43 (eleven months ago) link
Were they just completely vague on whether the new Mac Pro will have any support for third-party GPUs? My guess is that they left it vague because that's completely based on whether hardware vendors will collaborate on drivers.
Ars Technica's coverage was claiming that adding ARM driver support would be very arduous and I was thinking "hmm, citation needed"
Not that the driver model is similar, but NVidia has ARM Linux drivers, and they already have a long in the tooth macOS driver
― mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:46 (eleven months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/eF4JLUZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PKNqsIw.jpg
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 June 2023 19:53 (eleven months ago) link
I know that they're definitely still working on the deepfake-style video conferencing appearance but I reeeeally want to see more footage from whatever stage the prototype is at
― mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 19:59 (eleven months ago) link
Were they just completely vague on whether the new Mac Pro will have any support for third-party GPUs?
“Nothing to announce today.”
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 5 June 2023 20:07 (eleven months ago) link
lol
My friend who tracks pc hardware more assiduously than me was explaining that 24GB ram modules are becoming a thing as the new budget compromise and guess what? The new Macbook Air maxes out at 24GB of memory!
They're still trying to sell the base model with a criminal 8GB
― mh, Monday, 5 June 2023 20:13 (eleven months ago) link
I was a bit sceptical of 8GB, but I do some quite heavy lifting as a FE developer with just 8GB on the 13" Air. It isn’t meant to be a “Pro” machine anyway but it smokes the old i9 2019 16" Pro machine I had with 16GB - and without running any fans.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 09:37 (eleven months ago) link
fair. I end up having to fire up some containerized stuff on my own machine from time to time and it’s hard to work around hard memory limits in that casenot as if I don’t do a large portion of my computing on a phone and tablet with less
― mh, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 11:57 (eleven months ago) link
companies want people to wear computer glasses so bad but people dont want to, lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 12:15 (eleven months ago) link
Waiting for Vision 3GS
― calstars, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 12:33 (eleven months ago) link
soooo with that price this is just a toy for the super rich, right?
― Nhex, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 13:10 (eleven months ago) link
that's kind of what every new apple product gets badged as tbh
― mh, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 13:48 (eleven months ago) link
soooo with that price this is just a toy for the super rich, right?― Nhex, Tuesday, June 6, 2023 9:10 AM (thirty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Nhex, Tuesday, June 6, 2023 9:10 AM (thirty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
It’s shocking. They have a very good professional software team (Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, and Motion) and, as far as I know, they didn’t announce anything. Someone somewhere suggested a mixed-reality AutoCAD and Revit competitor. That would’ve been sick.
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 13:52 (eleven months ago) link
I got the impression they only locked in the APIs at the last minute and almost all the software features that were shown outside of the interface were video mock-ups
The Disney presentation was pure Imagineering with a couple clips interspersed from their existing products. I think I caught a clip from one of their previous Star Wars VR games
― mh, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 14:30 (eleven months ago) link
I got the impression they only locked in the APIs at the last minute and almost all the software features that were shown outside of the interface were video mock-upsThe Disney presentation was pure Imagineering with a couple clips interspersed from their existing products. I think I caught a clip from one of their previous Star Wars VR games― mh, Tuesday, June 6, 2023 10:30 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― mh, Tuesday, June 6, 2023 10:30 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Ah. That makes so much sense.
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 14:38 (eleven months ago) link
They mentioned Lightroom and the ability to selectively edit a 10’ photograph does sound like fun
― calstars, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 14:46 (eleven months ago) link
I mean it’s cheaper than what they were selling in the 80s and 90s. They’ve only recently become a mass market brand.
Still, lol at face computers.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 14:57 (eleven months ago) link
early 2024 reads as late March at earliest, to me
all of the apps that run on the device (as opposed to using it as a remote display for your laptop) looked like the iPad versions hovering in the air, and obviously they were all mockups because what else would they be, someone attached a camera to one of the devices eye holes and shot video through it?
― mh, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 15:11 (eleven months ago) link
I'm admittedly and embarrassingly kind of intrigued by the idea of having all my work apps around me in the air and manipulating them by waving my arms around like I'm conducting an invisible orchestra while the virtual heads of my coworkers float in front of me. I can't imagine wearing something like that outside - it seems more like the answer to an Occulus (which you use at home but you can't see your physical environment) than the answer to google glass (which was ostensibly designed to wear outside).
Like most tech, I will wait a few generations before even considering a purchase, and certainly not for $3500.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 16:15 (eleven months ago) link
In line with that, actually seriously considering an apple watch for the first time, as a combination of wanting a running watch, wanting the time on my wrist, and wanting fewer reasons to pull out my phone.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 16:17 (eleven months ago) link
As a self contained thing, I'm assuming this won't be compatible with any existing VR apps and games, and you'd be paying $3500 to use some nifty iPhone apps. I'm not into VR but if I sprung for this and couldn't even try out Half Life Alyx that'd be super lame. otoh fragmenting this space might hurry up its demise already.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 16:32 (eleven months ago) link
God I hope so. They had a DJ app thing and the latency on manipulating the crossfader was awful.
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 17:00 (eleven months ago) link
xxp i got apple watch pilled a couple of years ago. they are good!
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 17:34 (eleven months ago) link
i will never wear the apple watch or the apple glasses im against computers
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 00:30 (eleven months ago) link
The watch pro ultra max plus looks cool but is a little steep price wise
― calstars, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 00:49 (eleven months ago) link
Lol Is that the real name?
― Spottie, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 01:37 (eleven months ago) link
Yes
― calstars, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 02:34 (eleven months ago) link
Letter to the editor in the Washington Post
The June 6 news article "With Vision Pro, Apple makes its case for a computer on your face" noted a feature of Apple's new Vision Pro headset: When you are wearing the Vision Pro, you can see others in the room with you and thus you don't feel left out. But is the one wearing the Vision Pro the one who is really left out? I remember the moment when my young daughter got hooked on her first experience of a video (Disney's "Cinderella"). I not only felt "left out," but I also felt that she was no longer together "with me" in the same room.My problem with the Vision Pro and this direction technology is taking is not only that it leaves others out but, even more important, that it generates ever more "experiences," be they "immersive" or not, that we can't share with others (our friends, our partners, our children, our co-workers, et al.). Aren't our "deepest experiences," the ones we live by, not experiences that leave others out but instead experiences shared with others? Even René Descartes wrote his deepest experience - "I think, therefore I am" (cogito, ergo sum) - for a reader.I wish Apple CEO Tim Cook and the media would think more critically about how this new technology of "immersive experience" will intensify the primacy of the individual ("me first/me only" and its consequent "loneliness") by augmenting its introversion (and asociality in the sense of its "failure to feel responsibility" for the suffering or well-being of others). Isn't the challenge today to break down solipsism (self-relation) and increase/create solidarity with others (relationality) - others in the world with us?Kathleen Wright, Philadelphia
My problem with the Vision Pro and this direction technology is taking is not only that it leaves others out but, even more important, that it generates ever more "experiences," be they "immersive" or not, that we can't share with others (our friends, our partners, our children, our co-workers, et al.). Aren't our "deepest experiences," the ones we live by, not experiences that leave others out but instead experiences shared with others? Even René Descartes wrote his deepest experience - "I think, therefore I am" (cogito, ergo sum) - for a reader.
I wish Apple CEO Tim Cook and the media would think more critically about how this new technology of "immersive experience" will intensify the primacy of the individual ("me first/me only" and its consequent "loneliness") by augmenting its introversion (and asociality in the sense of its "failure to feel responsibility" for the suffering or well-being of others). Isn't the challenge today to break down solipsism (self-relation) and increase/create solidarity with others (relationality) - others in the world with us?
Kathleen Wright, Philadelphia
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 June 2023 08:44 (ten months ago) link
Baratunde Thurston:
Let's also talk about actual eyesight, the non-patented kind. On the same day Apple announced its headset, it announced a new feature built into its other mobile devices. According to its press release celebrating the company's attempt to tackle myopia (aka nearsightedness), "Screen Distance uses the same TrueDepth camera that powers Face ID on iPhone and iPad to encourage users to move their device farther away after holding it closer than 12 inches for an extended period of time." The release goes on to encourage us to spend time outdoors and notes that the company's new feature can monitor your access to daylight and nudge you to get more. Should I tell the "Screen Distance" team about the Vision Pro, or do you want to do it? The company's new headset sits centimeters away from your face, blasting your eyes with artificial light, shooting infrared beams to track eye movement, using cameras to capture and recreate your visage, all of which you strap to the back of your head. To quote my wife, "They should need F.D.A. approval for this. No one has tested what 23 million stamp-size pixels smashed against your eyes does to your brain." I could not, in fact, find any information related to the anticipated health impact or approval of this device for consumer use. I'll keep looking. While the Vision Pro is a massive technological leap, it's also likely to be a massive leap in the wrong direction when it comes to our health. When something so revolutionary rolls out, I want to be told about its incredible advantages, of course, but also about the incredible amount of study and care the company has taken, the testing conducted, the regulatory approvals achieved. Sadly, I suspect the truth is that we are the test subjects. I've looked for information about this on the Vision Pro site and can't find it. But that's how the under-regulated tech industry rolls, from social media to generative A.I., and now to this face computer.
The company's new headset sits centimeters away from your face, blasting your eyes with artificial light, shooting infrared beams to track eye movement, using cameras to capture and recreate your visage, all of which you strap to the back of your head. To quote my wife, "They should need F.D.A. approval for this. No one has tested what 23 million stamp-size pixels smashed against your eyes does to your brain." I could not, in fact, find any information related to the anticipated health impact or approval of this device for consumer use. I'll keep looking.
While the Vision Pro is a massive technological leap, it's also likely to be a massive leap in the wrong direction when it comes to our health. When something so revolutionary rolls out, I want to be told about its incredible advantages, of course, but also about the incredible amount of study and care the company has taken, the testing conducted, the regulatory approvals achieved. Sadly, I suspect the truth is that we are the test subjects. I've looked for information about this on the Vision Pro site and can't find it. But that's how the under-regulated tech industry rolls, from social media to generative A.I., and now to this face computer.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 June 2023 08:48 (ten months ago) link