Roger Clemens - Classic Or Dud?

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A comment by Bill James today--"I think (Teddy Higuera) probably had as many really great games as anybody in our lifetime did in a five-year period, not including the 1960s where you have Gibson and Koufax and Drysdale and others"--prompted me to look him up. I remember him as good, but I don't get this at all:

In '86, Clemens' breakthrough season, Clemens threw more innings than Higuera, gave up fewer runs, fewer earned runs, 50 fewer hits, fewer walks, fewer HR, and struck out 30 more batters. Higuera led in bWAR, though, 9.4 to Clemens' 8.8. I find this baffling. I mean, Clemens had one more HBP, three more balks, and eight more wild pitches, but how much does that count for? And Clemens pitched in Fenway.

clemenza, Saturday, 19 November 2022 03:53 (one year ago) link

Sent this in (big surprise) as an "Ask Bill," which in turn ended up as a Tom Tango tweet.

So, @baseball_ref does an OUTSTANDING job in laying out WHY their WAR numbers are what they are. You may disagree as to the individual components, but they are extremely transparent about it.

cc: @billjamesonline

So, let's take it, step by step...https://t.co/ipZtAEsuaB pic.twitter.com/QA6Eqbh5l8

— Tangotiger (@tangotiger) November 21, 2022

clemenza, Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link

"Tom Tango tweet"--will one day rival "toy boat" as a tongue twister.

clemenza, Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

Clemons will always have the headwind of being a total asshole.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

*Clemens. Fuck.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

Read “Clemons” in the voice of Cajun man

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 27 November 2022 05:00 (one year ago) link


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