Taylor Swift - Midnights

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Check out the Springsteen thread for his own belated response, which is basically a big shrug.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 November 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

I'm starting to think the only solution to this stuff is to seriously curtail secondary market sales, but I'm not sure how you legally go about doing that. Ed Sheeran supposedly limits how much his tickets can be resold for, I don't know how that works.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 November 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

Definitely love the trend towards big artists saying, "sorry you are too poor to see me, sucks 2 b u, buy my new album!".

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 November 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link

2.4 million people(?!)

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 18 November 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

A guy I work with (who was lukewarm about the new album, so I was surprised he went for tickets) says he managed to get great seats in the Capital One presale.

To me, the Capital One thing is like an extra little twist of the knife... I've taken advantage of such things in the past where I could (e.g., an "Amex Presale"), but the idea of needing to have a particular credit card feels extra moded.

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 18 November 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

Also throw in the fact that football season ticket holders in these venues also get a special pre-sale. I heard it was six tickets each at Soldier Field, so of course there's no tickets left.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 November 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

^^Wow. In some cases that might be the only benefit of having season tickets (Cough Cough Houston Texans).

Saw a post on reddit where a Texans (I believe) season ticket holder said that their special pre-sale was sold out in under a minute.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 November 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

Antitrust investigation opened up? Good luck with that, DOJ.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 November 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

“Like Capital One, Citi offers cardholders early access to concert presales through its Citi Entertainment program, which has no fee to access and is available to all Citi credit card and debit card holders. American Express offers some cardholders preferential access to tickets for Broadway shows and concerts, in addition to exclusive entrances at some venues.”

Keep journalism alive

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Sunday, 25 December 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

Rather delayed but finally giving this a full listen. Low key electronic Taylor really is remarkably good.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 January 2023 04:10 (one year ago) link

I gave it a spin a few weeks ago after loving "Glitch" on Four Tet's Spotify playlist. Pretty solid album!

I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Thursday, 26 January 2023 05:55 (one year ago) link

I re-listened today… every track after the first three still ended up being a skip for me, except for “Karma” & “Sweet Nothing” (“Hits Different” is also OK).

Vexatious litigant (morrisp), Thursday, 26 January 2023 06:44 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Curious: what’s the consensus about the meaning of the lyric “at tea time” in Anti-Hero? Does Taylor mean to imply that her critics are upper crust snobs drinking tea at a country club, or is it a draggy reference about serving tea?

lurching toward (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 3 March 2023 01:17 (one year ago) link

totally thought it was about serving tea

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Friday, 3 March 2023 01:21 (one year ago) link

Thought it was about gossip — tea — so “at tea time” = when ppl are gossiping (everybody agrees)

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 3 March 2023 01:24 (one year ago) link

yeah seems pretty clearly like the latter to me?

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 March 2023 01:26 (one year ago) link

I’ve always maintained that Taylor’s narrator may be winning out on the links but, rhetorically, she’s straight up getting wrecked by the other players

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 March 2023 02:06 (one year ago) link

I always thought it was a “my critics are snobs” line (and the only weak line in an otherwise fairly brilliant lyric)

My bf thinks she’s referencing drag

Either way it’s not my favourite line in an otherwise delightful lyric? Idk there’s a lot of good stuff there

lurching toward (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 3 March 2023 02:23 (one year ago) link

LL's gloss seems definitive to me

difficult listening hour, Friday, 3 March 2023 02:27 (one year ago) link

Thought it was about gossip — tea — so “at tea time” = when ppl are gossiping (everybody agrees)

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, March 2, 2023 5:24 PM

this is how i hear it.

up and down. SO FAST! stay together.💙 (Austin), Friday, 3 March 2023 02:30 (one year ago) link

Yeah, clearly about gossiping. That's when everybody agrees she's the problem!

It’s HER

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 March 2023 02:44 (one year ago) link

I thought she was just using "tea time" in the British sense? She's spent a lot of time there the past few years so it wouldn't be odd for some British phrases to sneak into her writing.

Tim F, Friday, 3 March 2023 04:11 (one year ago) link

i'd read it as both the british sense and about gossip

ufo, Friday, 3 March 2023 04:16 (one year ago) link

Yeah I'm not suggesting it doesn't draw on that double meaning, more that I don't think it is intended to imply anything about the people agreeing - it's everybody! The song is pretty focused on directing the criticism and loathing inward - the only exception (the daughter in law who kills her) is imaginary, and is more a metaphor for what she fears her value may be reduced to.

Tim F, Friday, 3 March 2023 05:45 (one year ago) link

yeah i agree there

ufo, Friday, 3 March 2023 06:18 (one year ago) link

“Sometimes I feel like everybody is a sexy baby
And I'm a monster on the hill
Too big to hang out, slowly lurching toward your favorite city”

This is not pop lyric writing imo, this is something else and something very good and very funny.

lurching toward (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 3 March 2023 13:03 (one year ago) link

Did you hear my covert narcissism
I disguise as altruism
Like some kind of congressman?

This part gets me every time, but the entire song is full of memorable lyrics.

I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Friday, 3 March 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link

The part that shocked me into caring about this song was that line — the narcissism/altruism/congressman line. It seems to come out of nowhere?

In the video where the crowd was singing along she absolutely spits the word congressman — that took me by surprise too.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 3 March 2023 20:46 (one year ago) link

What I love about the congressman line is that it’s not clear whether she’s speaking in general or specifically critiquing even her own confessionalism on this song, like, “look, even now I am crying out for attention and to be loved, and trying to make myself look like a more self-reflective person than I really am.”

Tim F, Friday, 3 March 2023 22:29 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

lol she sure seems to be going ridiculously all out for this tour

ufo, Saturday, 18 March 2023 12:09 (one year ago) link

It cost them so much babysitting and other jobs, but my kids are going to lose their shit.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:20 (one year ago) link

LOL same here. We are going to Nashville. They are approaching Losing Their Shit stage currently and should be at full-on Interstellar Overdrive (or something like that) stage by the time we get there.

tobo73, Saturday, 18 March 2023 13:56 (one year ago) link

she played “enchanted” ;_;

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 March 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link

i don’t love the setlist personally. shoutout to her for doing 45 songs tho

J0rdan S., Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link

Here’s the chunk I’d be all over (could leave the rest):

“Tis the Damn Season”
“Willow”
“Marjorie”
“Champagne Problems”
“Tolerate It”
“…Ready for It?”
“Delicate”

chemtrails over the turkey club (morrisp), Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link

When your fans have no taste

The Evermore segment included live debuts of “’Tis the Damn Season,” “Marjorie,” and “Tolerate It,” as well as a self-aware gag from Swift, who said the album is one that “I absolutely love—despite what some of you say on TikTok… I’ve seen it. I’ve seen all of it!”

chemtrails over the turkey club (morrisp), Saturday, 18 March 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

otm

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

Looks like she's actually dividing it up into eras, which makes sense given the name of the tour, but seems like a bit of a missed opportunity to put songs from different eras together in interesting ways.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

xp I think she's adressing weird persistent rumours that SHE didn't like evermore and has 'buried' it since release. Although yeah, the fans also underrated it.

abcfsk, Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link

Oh thanks, interesting. (I won’t pretend to understand the logic of that rumor, considering that she did the thing of breaking the songs up into a bunch of digital EPs, giving “Willow” a ton of remixes, etc.)

chemtrails over the turkey club (morrisp), Saturday, 18 March 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

My daughter gave me the lowdown this morning. Apparently she barely tweeted or posted anything about Evermore, compared to Folklore (which got its own special?), and then didn't mention the album on its "birthday" (anniversary) either.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link

Ok, definitely a different level of tea-leaf reading happening there.

chemtrails over the turkey club (morrisp), Saturday, 18 March 2023 19:25 (one year ago) link

Just did some Twitter searching (yes, I'm bored) – she only tweeted twice about Folklore, post–2020: (a) in Feb. 2021, announcing she put FL & Evermore together in a playlist; (b) in July 2021, the "Happy Anniversary" tweet (debuting a new version of "The Lakes"). As for Evermore – she tweeted about it seven (7) times in 2021 (and that's not counting the aforementioned playlist tweet, or an announcement of a deluxe version of the LP).

chemtrails over the turkey club (morrisp), Saturday, 18 March 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

I think if an artist was tweeting a lot about their albums’ birthdays I’d probably block them

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 18 March 2023 20:28 (one year ago) link

I would like to celebrate the anniversary of every post I made on ILX.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 March 2023 21:43 (one year ago) link

both the opening and closing tracks are very confusing choices

ufo, Saturday, 18 March 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link

I was there last night. My daughter’s Christmas present. Great stage/set and performance.

four square ups... no punches thrown (Spottie), Sunday, 19 March 2023 02:25 (one year ago) link


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