ANDOR aka Glum Village : its own thread

Yeah it's just an AirB&B they both rented at different times and Andor broke in to get the thing.

ok that does make sense. i feel like there's quite a lot deliberately elided in this show, the viewer has to put in a bit of effort to join the dots. which is fine!

I feel like the lightsaber on wings thing is rather impractical. You’d need those two ships flying right at you in a very specific way

didn't he do a kind of barrel roll? that could be pretty effective but yeah they have to be right next to your ship for it to do anything, kind of weird

i still said "whoa" when it happened though

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I thought it was some tentacle alien sleeping with the girlfriend from before and they were knocked out after some hard partying. The big box of cash just sitting there untouched was rather strange though.

I think the same snoozing-tentacles thing was in an early scene in Rogue One too - maybe when Jyn was in the prison transport truck.
Incidentally I assume Jyn isn't with Saw Gerrera because it's post whatever situation he abandoned her in. (I recently rewatched RO rather than having a deep knowledge of the lore.)

Rewatching Rogue One for the first time in a while this exchange really jumps out even more now

Chirrut: "We've been in worse cages than this one."
Andor: "This is a first for me."

The Auralnauts strike again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Pccq0DZVc

v good

nice. very nice.

Wow the cuts and sdtrk and voiceover and sequencing are perfect. the typeface on the text is _not quite right_ imo.

i think it's underbolded or whatever the correct word for that is

nice

seems more 80’s than 70’s to me but still really well done!

Just a heads up that there's a short post credits scene in the finale that confirms what some people thought upthread

motherfucker headbutted a stormtrooper

Was just about to point out the post credits thing. Saw how much left on the file I was watching so thought it probably indicated a further scene. & seemed to be a lot of credits so probably not something everybody was going to sit through to check.
See somebody else has mentioned it though.

"remember this. try." >>>>> "do or do not. there is no try."

so many good bits. space flutes! giant Maarva hologram inspiring an entire town. B2EMO making everybody be too emo. stormtrooper getting kicked out of the bell tower. mon mothma's palpable self-loathing as she sacrifices both her husband and her daughter for the rebellion (while still looking fantastic as fuck).

also huge lols @ the entire sequence of dedra getting hit by a rock, dragged by the crowd, rescued by Syril, and then sharing an awkward but undeniable -moment- with him - just excellent TV

Yeah, hell of a way to wrap it up. For now, obv.

My secret wish is that with Iger back he calls up Ms. Kennedy and goes "Yeah, ask Tony to make it a full five seasons."

Interviews with Gilroy and Luna

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/andor-season-2-post-credits-scene-tony-gilroy-1235268962/

https://www.vulture.com/article/diego-luna-on-andor-interview-finale-narkina-prison-break.html

Plus another Gilroy interview

https://www.vulture.com/article/andor-tony-gilroy-finale-interview.html

Imagine if Andor's season finale is great, just really thoughtful and compelling stuff throughout, but then there's a post credits sequence with an evil Yoda who's like red

— The Man of Astoria (@depechejoe) November 14, 2022

caught up in the show and read the whole thread. good posts folks.

gonna think some more but i do want to point out that i was sure that meero and syril were gonna make out

I really wanted it to happen

those two crazy brownshirts just belong together

cyril was sure too lmao

he was so eerily calm!

Man this was great. I liked Rogue One but felt it would have been better as a miniseries to develop the characters more, and Andor was pretty much that

love that retro intro.

also, had no clue there was a post credit scene; but i assumed thats what the components were for.

WAIT A MINUTE have there been post-credit scenes all along?!??

Just went back and watched it: awwww yeeeeeeah.

i think just that one.

"Every single commodity you produce is a piece of your own death!"

just burned through this whole series in about 3 days and what a great Star War - absolutely fuckin ruled

there were moments when that woozy synth soundtrack felt like it was consciously informed by Boards of Canada? esp on the holidy planet... but anyway that memorydelica vibe was perfect for a show that took my fondest sense memories of 70s/80s science fiction and reworked them in a way that managed to feel totally contemporary

definitely this franchise is best when it gets away from the old characters - although why does this feel so much more urgent than Kenobi did? we know the outcome here too, but for some reason it's a much more compelling ride

Honestly I think part of it lies with the fact that for all that certain key characters obv make it at least to Rogue One there was a real feeling that anyone could die at any point. (Obviously accentuated by the heist sequence in particular.) I admit to mild surprise that there weren't more characters similarly gone in the final episode, but I'll be interested to see where they all go in the second season.

As for your burn through in three days approach, that's what my mom wants to do around Christmas (in that I have a Roku stick I'll bring -- she had a full setup before but got frustrated with it so this is the standin). I'll be happy to fully rewatch that way and as she prefers having subtitles on that'll help me catch bits of dialogue I missed myself.

xp Yeah Britell's score was excellent. I like his work on Succession but this was a tier up

Oh I didn’t know it was the same guy as Succession! Nice.

At times this show reminded me slightly of The Sandbaggers (peerless UK 1980s spy series which has its own thread here somewhere I think) - partly Luthen’s “what it takes” morality I guess, but also the ISB roundtable scenes - something about the brutal decision-making of behind-the-scenes manipulators - and the way we saw this play out in the field. Excellent stuff.

Also a high quotient of English character actors, lol.

Spencer Chow has me wanting to see Star Wars does Slacker now.

Good interview with Denis Gough

https://www.empireonline.com/tv/features/andor-denise-gough-interview-building-star-wars-villain-dedra-meero/

(Fiona Shaw's original line was "Fuck the Empire.")

DENISE Gough I should say. Anyway.

In Gough’s own words? “I am going to Dedra the fuck out of the second season,”

I watched Rogue One again. It’s a pretty good, straightforward action movie. The feature film mechanics demand that certain beats be hit, and they are dutifully hit, but there’s not a lot going on thematically, or with the characters either. Jyn’s not necessary for the story once she gets her dad’s holo-message from Ghost Dog. The “don’t choke on your aspirations” scene isn’t needed but we do get those great shots of Vader’s lair. And, it’s been said before but the CGI Cushing and the CGI Fisher are ABYSMAL, and will of course only stick out more as the passing years bring advances to artificial facial movement etc. I’ve been banging this drum since the prequels but animated CGI human faces just don’t look right, they never have - I mean, they’re not even in the ballpark. If you isolated a still, maybe it could pass, but once they start trying to move it around it’s sub-Red Dead Redemption territory. And this is Star Wars! In 4K! How people think this is acceptable is just wild to me. Anyway I sincerely hope that some day somebody does a “special edition” of this shit to fix it. It’s embarrassing.

Anyway I guess you can see the seeds of some of Andor’s themes here: sacrifice, the ends justifying the means, the petty power squabbles among the Empire’s sub-Vader captaincy.

I just keep telling myself that Mon Mothma has to survive Andor bc she's in Rogue One.

some good content

https://maxread.substack.com/p/what-made-andor-so-good
https://newrepublic.com/article/169206/grown-up-art-andor

xp among other things!

CGI Cushing and the CGI Fisher are ABYSMAL, and will of course only stick out more as the passing years bring advances to artificial facial movement etc.

I totally agree with you, and it annoys me even further that versions of these films/shows are so fluid and impermanent now that they will just change it and tweak it in the future as the tech improves. But that whole last section really let down the film for me.

The whole battle scene?

Well, any bit that they were in. And then as soon as I realized how precisely they were going to join everything up, I got annoyed, because it all felt very DO YOU SEE, and because it irritates me that there isn't a frame or a word of dialogue in original Star Wars that hasn't been picked over and spun off and explained and retconned and fundamentally had all the enjoyment sucked out of it. For me, anyway.

I felt a tiny twinge of that in the post-credits scene in Andor. Like, we all got it. You don't need to specifically show it to us.

Yeah, agreed.

For some reason this time around it came home to me just how neatly the end of Rogue One lines up with the beginning of Star Wars. Leia has the plans, Vader is already chasing down hapless rebels and wrecking shop.

Yes, the fact that Star Wars presumably starts minutes after the end of Rogue One, that Princess Leia was very obviously fleeing the scene of the first massive space battle between the empire and rebels, and that the death star was already used to blow up Jedha and Scarif, all this causes a lot of plot points in Star Wars to retroactively make far less sense.